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2025/11/07
Latest episode
2026/10/16
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34 min.
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A CFO and a GTM nerd walk into a podcast... and things get real. Join Chandra & Laura as they break down the latest in AI—from multimodal models and market meltdowns to what it all means for enterprise buyers and sellers. This isn’t another AI hype fest. State of the AI Union translates frontier tech into boardroom relevance, helps sales teams prospect like insiders, and asks the questions everyone’s quietly Googling (but louder). Because in a world full of black-box models and buzzwords, someone’s gotta explain it like a human.
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Matt Finch: How AI is Changing the Buyer Journey
2026/10/16
Matt Finch discusses how AI is transforming sales processes, from buyer research to personalized demos and POCs, emphasizing the importance of human-AI collaboration and new skill sets for sales teams.
key topics
AI's impact on buyer research and decision-making
Hyper-personalized demo automation and scaling
The evolving role of sales and technical teams
Strategies for better discoverability and content openness
Using AI to streamline POCs and reduce manual tasks
Training sales teams for AI-native selling
The importance of storytelling and real-time engagement
keywords
AI in sales, personalized demos, buyer research, POCs, sales enablement, sales technology, Demo Atelier, AI transformation, sales skills, customer engagement
Heather Hansma: Does AI Make Us Better Humans?
2026/10/09
In this episode, Heather Hansma and Laura Fu explore the evolving role of human judgment in sales and customer interactions amidst the rise of generative AI. They discuss how AI can augment human skills, the importance of process design, and the future skills salespeople need to thrive.
keywords
AI, human judgment, sales, customer interactions, process design, generative AI, skills, automation, decision-making
key topics
The impact of AI on human judgment in salesHow process design affects customer experienceThe importance of review and rumination in AI workflowsTraining and developing skills for AI-enabled rolesThe variability and subjectivity of human judgmentUsing AI to identify signals and biases in interactionsThe concept of 'high calorie' interactions and relationship buildingFuture skills salespeople need in an AI world
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI and human judgment in sales
02:12 The need for more, different salespeople in the AI era
05:34 The impact of bad data and process on customer experience
08:40 Cognitive limitations of humans and AI assistance
10:02 Cognitive biases and how AI can help mitigate them
11:26 The importance of review, rumination, and training in AI workflows
13:17 Training human judgment and understanding AI's decision basis
15:32 Using AI to improve skills and explicit knowledge
16:57 The biases in AI training data and human oversight
18:33 The role of discipline and review in AI-assisted work
21:07 The importance of explicit skills and training for AI tasks
22:30 AI as a research assistant and performance enhancer
24:34 Permissions, oversight, and managing AI in agents
31:16 What makes good human judgment in interactions
32:30 Measuring and ensuring the quality of human interactions
33:54 Biases in perception and feedback in customer interactions
34:21 The future of AI and human collaboration in sales
36:06 Using AI for personal and professional planning
36:52 Training and onboarding in an AI-enabled world
37:14 Closing thoughts and future outlooks
Alex Rossie: Verticalized AI Solutions in GTM
2026/09/25
In this episode, Alex Rossie from closin.ai shares insights on how AI is transforming revenue operations, the importance of context in data, and how verticalized AI solutions can revolutionize go-to-market strategies. Discover how his diverse background informs his approach to building innovative RevOps tools.
key topics
The role of AI in revenue operations
Importance of data context and time series
Verticalized AI solutions for RevOps
Building and pricing AI-driven SaaS products
The impact of diverse backgrounds on innovation
keywords
AI, Revenue Operations, RevOps, Data Strategy, Vertical AI, SaaS, CRM, AI Tools, Business Automation
Abhay Rajaram: AI Meets Human Taste
2026/09/11
Laura Fu interviews Abhay Rajaram, co-CEO of Sendoso, about how AI is transforming the world of direct mail and gifting. They explore how AI enhances personalization, scalability, and effectiveness in marketing and sales campaigns, emphasizing the importance of human touch alongside automation.
key topics
AI-enhanced direct mail and gifting
Agentic workflows and smart delivery
Personalization and taste in marketing
Guardrails and ethical considerations in AI
The evolving role of salespeople with AI
key topics
AI-enhanced direct mail and gifting
Agentic workflows and smart delivery
Personalization and taste in marketing
Guardrails and ethical considerations in AI
The evolving role of salespeople with AI
Jared Robin: How AI Is Reshaping Community Building
2026/08/28
In this episode, Jared Robin, CEO of RevGenius, shares insights on community building, AI's role in marketing, and the future of revenue teams. Discover how AI can enhance engagement, scale human connection, and create competitive advantages in the evolving digital landscape.
keywords
community building, AI in marketing, revenue teams, audience engagement, digital transformation, SaaS communities, founder insights
key topics
AI's role in desiloing departments
Building authentic communities at scale
Using AI for audience signals and insights
The importance of human touch in automation
Community as a revenue and retention tool
The evolution of revenue teams and org structures
Content and signal gathering with AI
The future of community at scale
Antoine Fort: Modernizing Sales Comp with AI
2026/08/14
In this episode, Antoine from Qobra discusses how AI is transforming sales coaching and financial management by providing personalized, real-time support and motivation tools.
keywords
AI, sales coaching, financial management, sales motivation, AI tools, revenue tracking
key topics
AI as a sales coach and companion
Real-time revenue and motivation triggers
Automation of financial calculations
Personalized support for sales teams
Impact of AI on sales and finance workflows
takeaways
AI can act as a personal sales coach, providing instant answers and motivation.
Automated triggers based on revenue thresholds can boost sales motivation.
AI tools simplify complex financial calculations and reporting.
Personalized AI support can improve sales team performance.
AI integration reduces manual back-and-forth with finance teams.
Maroille Cheese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroilles_cheese
Rutger Katz: Quick AI Wins in RevOps
2026/07/31
Rutger Katz, founder of Neon Triforce, shares insights on implementing AI in B2B SaaS companies, focusing on foundational elements like data, processes, and tech stack, and discusses common pitfalls and quick wins in AI adoption.
keywords
AI, B2B SaaS, data strategy, process documentation, AI adoption, revenue operations, tech stack, organizational change
key topics
AI foundations: data, processes, tech stackSiloed projects and their costsQuick wins: call transcription, content generation, account researchLeadership and sponsorship in AI initiativesEuropean vs. US AI adoption differences
resources
Neon Triforce - https://neontriforce.com
Winning by Design - Revenue Architecture - https://winningbydesign.com/revenue-architecture/
guest links
LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/rutgerkatz
Twitter - https://twitter.com/rutgerkatz
Matthew Volm: The Human Side of AI in RevOps
2026/07/17
Matthew Volm discusses how AI is transforming revenue operations and go-to-market strategies, emphasizing practical use cases, challenges, and the importance of human-to-human interactions in sales.
keywords
AI, revenue operations, go-to-market, sales, account research, trust, digital channels, in-person events, SaaS, CRM
key topics
AI in revenue operationsAccount research and forecasting with AIChallenges of AI adoption in salesTrust and human connection in salesIn-person events vs digital outreachChapters
00:00 Introduction to RevOps Co-op and AI in Sales
02:02 Current Trends in Revenue Operations and AI Implementation
06:57 Challenges of AI in Go-To-Market Strategies
10:59 Understanding Productivity Changes with AI
17:02 The Importance of Trust in Sales
24:05 Leveraging AI for Human Connections
30:06 Best Practices for Adopting SaaS Technology
resources
RevOps Co-op - https://revopscop.com
Eventful Software - https://www.heyeventful.com/
Gong - https://gong.io
OpenAI - https://openai.com
Tamar Gill: The 80+ Step GTM Data Validation Process
2026/07/03
In this episode, Tamar Gill, CEO of eCore, discusses the critical importance of data quality in go-to-market strategies, the role of AI in data validation and enrichment, and practical steps for organizations to improve their data processes. Tamar shares insights from her extensive experience in data management, emphasizing validation, real-time updates, and strategic use of AI.
keywords
Data Quality, AI in Data Validation, Go-to-Market Strategy, CRM Data, Data Enrichment, Data Validation Steps, Real-Time Data, B2B Data, Data Management Best Practices
key topics
Data validation and enrichment processesRole of AI in data managementBest practices for maintaining high-quality CRM data
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to eCore and Its Mission
03:05 The Data Quality Crisis
05:58 AI's Role in Data Validation
08:48 The 80-Step Validation Process
12:05 Real-Time Data Validation vs. Traditional Methods
14:59 Best Practices for Go-to-Market Data
17:52 Challenges in Data Accuracy
21:11 Leveraging AI Effectively
24:05 Advice for Data Buyers
27:01 The Importance of Personalization
30:05 Tamar's Journey and Entrepreneurial Advice
resources
eCore Website - https://e-core.com
Zoominfo - https://www.zoominfo.com/
Apollo Data Provider - https://apollo.io
Tamar Gill - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamargill/
Mehmet Gonullu: The Future of AI in the Enterprise
2026/06/19
In this episode, Mehmet Gonullu, head of Yassi Ventures, discusses the rapid evolution of AI in 2026, focusing on agentic AI, enterprise deployment, and future investment opportunities. He shares insights on how organizations can adopt AI responsibly and leverage it for competitive advantage.
keywords
AI 2026, agentic AI, enterprise AI deployment, AI investment, GTM strategies, AI safety, vertical AI, data centers, space tech, AI education
key topics
Agentic AI in 2026Enterprise AI deployment challenges and best practicesInvestment opportunities in AI supply chain and vertical AI
Action items
Educate your organization about AI safety and guardrailsStart AI deployment in sandbox environmentsFocus on one use case at a time for AI implementationStay updated with AI news and experiment with tools
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI and Yasi Ventures
03:05 The Rise of Agentic AI
06:11 AI Agents in Go-To-Market Strategies
08:51 Enterprise Adoption of AI Agents
12:09 Challenges in AI Deployment
15:05 Education and Change Management in AI
18:14 Capital Deployment in AI
27:05 Future of Vertical AI and Potential Issues
resources
Yassi Ventures - https://yassiventures.com
The CTO Show - https://www.mehmetcto.show/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgonullu/
Michelle Lim: The Future of Marketing Automation with AI
2026/06/05
In this episode, Michelle Lim, CEO of Flint, discusses how AI is transforming marketing strategies, personalization expectations, and the importance of systematizing marketing processes for faster, more authentic customer engagement.
keywords
AI marketing, personalization, marketing automation, Flint, customer experience, marketing strategy, AI tools, systematization, branding, customer expectations
key topics
AI's impact on personalization expectations
Systematizing marketing processes for speed
Balancing authenticity and AI-generated content
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI in Marketing
03:01 Changing Buyer Expectations
05:48 Personalization vs. Automation
08:49 The Role of Strategy in Marketing
12:03 Leveraging AI for Marketing Insights
14:59 The Importance of Feedback Loops
18:01 Human Involvement in AI Processes
21:00 Choosing the Right AI Tools
23:53 Michelle's Journey as a Founder
26:51 Cultural Influences on Entrepreneurship
29:55 Favorite Singaporean Cuisine
resources
Flint - AI Marketing Platform - https://www.flint.com/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michlimlim/
Stephen Steers: The Secret Sauce of Sales in Storytelling & AI
2026/05/22
In this episode, Stephen Steers, author of Superpower Storytelling, shares insights on how storytelling and AI are transforming sales. Discover how top salespeople leverage storytelling, the role of curiosity, and practical AI applications to enhance customer connections and decision-making.
keywords
sales, storytelling, AI, customer connection, sales tips, AI tools, sales strategy, storytelling framework, sales training, AI in sales
key topics
The role of storytelling in sales success
Using AI for pre-call preparation and pattern recognition
The importance of curiosity in sales and AI's support
Mitigating risks of AI tools in sales and hiring
Building trust, judgment, and taste through AI
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Stephen Steers and his expertise
01:20 Why great salespeople focus on helping, not selling
02:25 Understanding customer outcomes and AI's role
03:21 AI in pre-call prep and pattern recognition
04:46 Using AI to identify messaging patterns
06:01 The importance of fundamentals and curiosity in AI use
07:02 How AI can scale poor sales practices
08:23 Creating multiple messaging versions for testing
09:36 Using AI to optimize outreach and engagement
11:11 The impact of AI on storytelling and human connection
13:06 The importance of being real and authentic in sales
13:29 Assessing judgment, taste, and trust with AI
15:37 Guardrails for AI in hiring and sales
16:25 Challenging AI outputs and avoiding bias
17:16 Using AI to identify blind spots in decision-making
17:57 Starting an AI-native sales organization
20:16 Stephen's book: Superpower Storytelling
23:23 Upcoming book: Seven Minute Sales
24:15 Final advice on using AI wisely
resources
Stephen Steers on LinkedIn
David Weiss: Expertise before AI in Sales
2026/05/08
In this episode, sales expert David Weiss shares insights on how AI can enhance or hinder sales processes, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking and expertise before scaling with AI. He discusses practical strategies for integrating AI into sales training, deal management, and leadership to improve accuracy and decision-making.
key topics
AI's impact on sales and deal management
The importance of critical thinking in AI adoption
Strategies for training sales teams with AI
Risks of scaling bad sales behaviors with AI
Leadership's role in data and AI oversight
keywords
AI in sales, deal management, sales training, critical thinking, AI tools, sales leadership, deal inspection, AI risks, sales efficiency, AI adoption
resources & guest links
DealDoc
David Weiss
CT Leong: Mastering AI Native GTM Architecture
2026/04/24
In this episode, CT Leong shares insights on go-to-market strategies, the evolution of outbound marketing, and the role of AI in revenue operations. Discover practical frameworks, the importance of data, and how to leverage AI agents for scalable growth.
key topics
GTM architect role and responsibilitiesEvolution of outbound marketing strategiesAI-driven revenue operations and revopsFramework for optimizing current GTM effortsChallenges and opportunities in Southeast Asian markets
keywords
GTM, outbound marketing, AI in revops, SaaS growth, GTM architecture, outbound strategy, AI agents, revenue operations, startup advice
resources
Go-To-Market Architects - https://go-to-market.com
CT Leong on LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/ctleong
Ben Orthlieb: Can your VC do this with AI?
2026/04/10
Ben Orthlieb from Blue Moon Ventures discusses how AI is transforming venture capital by automating sourcing, screening, and analysis of startups. He shares insights on leveraging AI for faster, better investment decisions, and how founders can prepare for VC meetings in an AI-driven landscape.
key topics
AI in venture capitalAutomated sourcing and screeningImpact of AI on founder selectionDiversity in startup portfoliosFuture of VC technology
keywords
AI, Venture Capital, Startup Funding, Machine Learning, Investment Strategies, Founders, VC Tech, Portfolio Diversification
resources
DevRev for Startups - https://devrev.ai/startups
Blue Moon Ventures - https://bluemoon.vc
guest links
LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/benorthlieb
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