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Divorce doesn't end families -- it restructures them. Welcome to Thinking Boldly, where we challenge everything you thought you knew about divorce, family law, and the future of the family after divorce. Hosted by the Consilium® Institute founders attorney Heidi Webb and (ret.) Judge Julie Field, this podcast brings together family law attorneys, judges, therapists, financial advisors, and clients who have experienced the transformative power of the Consilium Process firsthand. Consilium is an antidote to the adversarial, emotionally devastating, and financially draining traditional divorce system. The Thinking Boldly podcast explores this better way forward. The Consilium Process represents a revolutionary approach to family restructuring that integrates legal, financial, and psychological support into one collaborative framework. Instead of viewing divorce as destruction, we see it as an opportunity for growth, healing, and the creation of healthier family systems that endure beyond the courtroom. Each episode explores the innovative methods that are helping families across the nation move from dissolution to evolution. We dig deep into: • The Consilium Process: How a multidisciplinary paradigm creates better outcomes than traditional litigation • Family Restructuring: Practical strategies for co-parenting, communication, and maintaining family bonds through transition • The Emotional Journey: Understanding and navigating the psychological challenges of divorce with compassion and clarity • Financial Planning: Creating sustainable financial futures that align with legal and emotional realities • Legal Innovation: How attorneys are thriving by adopting integrative, client-centered approaches • Personal Growth: Using divorce as a catalyst for transformation rather than trauma Whether you're a family law attorney seeking better tools to serve your clients, a mental health therapist or financial professional guiding families experiencing divorce, a judge looking for more effective approaches, or an individual navigating family transition, Thinking Boldly delivers the insights and inspiration you need. Our founders bring unparalleled expertise: Heidi Webb created the Consilium Process through her dual background in family law and psychology, while Judge Julie Field has spent her career on the bench serving families navigating the court system. Together, they've built a national network of Consilium Practitioners who are transforming how families restructure for better futures. We believe that with the right support, legal guidance, financial planning, and emotional tools, families can emerge from divorce stronger, healthier, and more optimistic about the future. Logic can prevail even during times of high emotion. Children can thrive. Co-parents can align on child-rearing. And everyone involved can move forward with dignity. Join us for candid conversations that challenge conventional wisdom, share real client success stories, and provide actionable strategies you can implement immediately. Families deserve better than what the current broken divorce system offers -- and families thriving after divorce prove our methods work. Subscribe to Thinking Boldly and discover how family restructuring can be a path to personal evolution. Learn more at consiliuminstitute.com

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When Assumptions Hurt: Separating Myths From Evidence In Intimate Partner Domestic Violence With Professor Joan Meier

2026/08/12

How do myths about intimate partner violence influence decisions that can change and even endanger lives? Host Julie Field and co-host Heidi Webb speak with George Washington Law School Professor Joan Meier about her decades of groundbreaking research on domestic violence, child abuse, and the family court system. She explores why misconceptions persist, how allegations of parental alienation arise in response to abuse claims, and what empirical evidence actually reveals. Professor Meier also details her efforts educating judges and attorneys to bridge the gap between assumption and science. Understanding this distinction is essential to protecting children and survivor parents while improving decision-making in family courts. Whether you’re a family law professional or interested in how research shapes justice, this conversation will challenge what you think you know.

Mortgage Lending With Head And Heart With Joe Woodman

2026/07/22

Determining what happens to the family home during a split requires strategic Divorce Mortgage Planning. Host Heidi Webb and co-host Judge Julie Field sit down with certified expert Joe Woodman to explore how specialized lending makes a difference. Traditional systems often fail divorcing homeowners because standard guidelines conflict with legal separation agreements. Joe explains why bringing empathy to this complex transaction helps families transition with dignity because it doesn’t have to be a battle. He shares how a collaborative team of attorneys, therapists, and financial advisors protects both emotional and financial assets. Learn how starting this conversation early transforms a stressful process into an empowering roadmap.

Unlocking The Mystery Of Getting Divorced With Maureen McBrien

2026/07/08

People want to get divorced but often do not even know where to start. Indeed, it is a financially, mentally, and emotionally exhausting process, and no one should have to do it all by themselves. Julie and Heidi are joined by Maureen McBrien, a partner at Brick, Jones, McBrien, and Hickey LLP, which is a family law firm in Needham, Massachusetts. She shares her experiences working with thousands of individuals navigating a divorce and how to ensure people take the steps they need for their unique situation. Maureen sheds light on why such a legal proceeding goes beyond financial settlements and how arbitration can drastically expedite the entire process.

Parenthood Of Same Sex Couples In The EU With Elias Yiannatsis

2026/06/24

What happens when a family is legally recognized in one European country but not in another? Family law attorney Elias Yiannatsis explores the legal challenges facing same-sex parents across the European Union, from cross-border recognition of parenthood to adoption, surrogacy, and international family rights. Founder of Elias Yiannatsis & Associates, Elias specializes in international family law, handling complex cross-border disputes involving child relocation, international child abduction, adoption, and surrogacy. A member of the Athens Bar Association, legal advisor to Proud Parents, and volunteer with NELFA, he has been actively involved in advancing LGBTQ+ family rights in Greece and across Europe. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Your Resilience Is Your Brilliance! With Susan Ganz

2026/06/17

Change is everywhere in life, in business, and in family adaptations. Join us as we have an in-depth conversation with business transition expert Susan Ganz. Thinking Boldly! hosts Julie and Heidi ask Susan to dig into how people adapt to the pace of change, and what it looks like when individuals and families face those challenges not just in life, but in business, and with new technology. Susan shared with us her Business Transition Readiness Checklist – a strategic guide for navigating exits, separations, and unprecedented change, whether you are navigating a transition in a family or in a family business that entangles you with the past. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Doing The Heavy Lifting For Kids In Court With Kristen Tarrin, Esq, CFI, CLR

2026/06/10

Kristen Tarrin is a part-time judge and full-time advocate for children in Colorado. In this episode, she shares her passion for helping families navigate restructuring after separation and discusses the challenges of handling cases involving coercive control and domestic violence. As a Child and Family Investigator (CFI), Kristen serves as a court-appointed neutral tasked with gathering information from parents, children, teachers, therapists, and other key individuals. In Colorado, CFIs complete 60 hours of initial training, including domestic violence and child abuse education, and continue their training throughout their careers. Kristen explains that a CFI’s primary role is not to make decisions but to provide the court with a clear, fact-based report and recommendations. She also offers insight from the bench, revealing what she pays closest attention to when reviewing CFI reports: the voices of the children and the perspectives of neutral third parties. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Consilium Process: How It Informs Innovative, Successful Multidisciplinary Professionals With Trish Siefer, Gretchen Nelson, And Eloise Patterson

2026/06/03

Join Heidi and Julie for a thoughtful conversation with Consilium Institute’s earliest adopters – attorneys Gretchen Nelson, Trish Siefer, and financial advisor Eloise Patterson. These three amazing women founded their firm on the Consilium Process’s visionary, integrated model of helping families restructure, rather than destruct, after a divorce. Listen to Trish, Gretchen, and Eloise talk about what it means to be part of a creative, innovative law firm in a challenging environment. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Gabrielle Hartley's Secret To Getting Along — Meditation And Mediation

2026/05/27

Is it possible to find peace during conflict? In this exclusive episode, we uncover the powerful link between meditation and mediation to radically transform how you approach tough conversations, especially divorce. We sit down with nationally recognized divorce mediator and bestselling author, Gabrielle Hartley, who shares the principles behind her revolutionary Better Apart method. Discover how grounding yourself with meditation provides the clarity, patience, and respect needed to unlock mutually beneficial solutions in any relationship—from marital separation to everyday conflict resolution. Stop spiraling and start resolving. Tune in to learn the secret to getting Along. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

It Really Is A Wonderful Life! A Candid Conversation With Attorney Stephen Vertucci

2026/05/07

Can a challenging career in family law still pave the way for a truly wonderful life? Retired Judge Julie Field and Heidi Webb, co-founders of the Consilium Institute, welcome family law attorney Stephen Vertucci to discuss a transformative approach to legal practice. Stephen, an early adopter of the Consilium process, shares how he shifted his perspective from being mired in negativity to finding re-energizing purpose—seeing his work as “a part of the creation of two families, not the breakup of one.” Dive into this candid conversation to hear Stephen’s key advice for professionals on protecting their mental health, the importance of breaking bread to settle cases, and the powerful message behind his favorite movie of all time, It’s a Wonderful Life. Learn how to find a better, less conflicted path for your clients and for yourself. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Creating Child-Centered Solutions From The Bench With Judge Kelley Southerland

2026/04/27

In the most challenging moments of life, particularly those involving family law, the court system can feel foreign and frightening. But what if the judge presiding over your case saw their role as an opportunity to build peace and help your family “restructure”? Join us for a thoughtful and inspiring conversation with Judge Kelley Southerland, a leader in family law who is helping shape a more compassionate court experience for families across Colorado. Since taking the bench in 2017, Judge Southerland has been a steady champion for families—and especially for children—ensuring that every voice is heard during some of life’s most challenging moments. Today, Judge Southerland shares the unconventional path that led her to the bench, emphasizing that her goal is to make sure litigants feel seen and heard in a welcome space. She discusses the critical importance of listening to children’s voices, the power of collaboration between the Bench and the Bar, and her commitment to judicial wellness, which includes waking up before 5 am to exercise and read. Learn how she uses her human perspective and heart to ensure the court process leads to true resolution and success for families. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Prenups And The "Suits" Impact On Clients' Expectations With Jared Wood, Esquire

2026/04/09

Prenups lawyer expectations collide with pop culture perceptions in this grounded look at how media influences real family law decisions. In this episode, Consilium Practitioner Jared Wood, Esquire of Egloff & Wood, LLP, shares his expertise on prenuptial agreements and how shows like Suits shape what clients expect before they ever step into a law office. Jared breaks down how those expectations compare to real-world legal processes, especially in Massachusetts probate and family court, and why misunderstandings about prenups often lead to frustration during negotiations. Together, we explore how attorneys manage client perception, the role of education in early legal planning, and why clear communication is essential when emotions, assets, and relationships are on the line. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Attorneys Who Dare Greatly: Serving People Not “Clients” In Divorce With Lindsay Reilly And David Vandenberg

2026/03/07

Family law involves personal matters that are often riddled with emotions, trauma, and extremely high stakes. Therefore, those who assist families in such legal matters must know how to take a human-centered approach instead of simply treating them as mere clients. Julie Field sits down with family law attorneys Lindsay Reilly and David Vandenberg of Reilly, Vandenberg & Biggers, who share how they transitioned from their leadership roles in the district attorney’s office to leading families through the restructuring process by applying the Consilium Process every day, in every case. Together, they talk about their mission to reach resolutions outside the courtroom that contemplate long-term solutions and a holistic approach to restructuring families. Find out how they empower their clients to be their own deciders and set themselves up for the next chapter of their lives. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Conversations About Divorce And Family Restructuring With The Hon. Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (Retired)

2026/02/25

Marital agreements, divorces, and child custody cases are messy, emotional, and often leave families feeling ill-served by courts. What can judges and lawyers do to make family law a bit less overwhelming for them? Honorable Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (retired), shares her vast experience and expertise in this area as one of the nation’s leading experts in judicial education and family dynamics. She talks about the Colorado Supreme Court’s revolutionary initiative: the introduction of Licensed Legal Paraprofessionals (LLP) who provide families with essential legal advice at court. Judge Angie also explains why judges should let go of their judgmental mindset when dealing with family law cases to end up with the best possible outcomes for every family. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Becoming Fierce: Sparking Your Personal Transformation With Stephanie James

2026/02/04

In a world saturated with quick fixes and surface-level advice, true personal transformation often feels like an elusive goal. But what if the key to profound change—the spark—is already within you? We sat down with Stephanie James, a true pioneer at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and modern transformation. As a renowned Transformation Coach, Psychotherapist, acclaimed Author of Becoming Fierce and Your Big Fat Juicy Life, and host of the Igniting the Spark podcast, Stephanie brings decades of wisdom to helping individuals move beyond mere coping and into radical self-expansion. In this candid interview, Stephanie demystifies the role of a Transformation Coach, shares her deeply personal journey from feeling rejected to becoming fierce, and explains why self-kindness is the most powerful tool for navigating life’s most painful transitions, including divorce. Get ready to discover the “infuser” philosophy, the power of befriending yourself, and the ancient-meets-modern modalities Stephanie uses to help you excavate your inner light. If you’re ready to shift from “good enough” to truly thriving, this conversation is your ignition point. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

Unhitching - The Five Stages Of Divorce Grief With Oona Metz, LICSW

2026/01/28

Join us as we talk with Consilium Practitioner and author Oona Metz, who specializes in treating women navigating divorce. Oona brings together her 30 years of experience running divorce support groups and captures the challenge of the divorce journey by setting out the five stages of divorce grief. She also talks about her new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, where she breaks down how to ride – and eventually get off – the roller coaster of divorce. Discover what it takes to get through this emotionally and financially challenging phase of your life and ultimately rediscover your authentic self. Learn more and register at consiliuminstitute.com and get 10% off using the code BOLD10.

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Jkwoodman 2026/07/29

A better way to approach family restructuring

As a financial professional who has felt siloed in working with divorcing clients, I have found deep encouragement in the Consilium approach to family...

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