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2026/02/11
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2026/10/23
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Interested in the business of space? Dr Alice Bunn, former-international director of UK Space Agency and now president of UKspace, helps you identify investment opportunities, cut through policy and regulation, assemble your supply chains and get stuff done. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Live at Harwell: Is the UK space industry fit for purpose and how can it win?
2026/10/23
A blockbuster cast of industry leaders debate the UK’s new space strategy with invited guests live at the Harwell Campus. What do they all think about the government as a procurer and facilitator of private growth capital? Why does Sam Adlen argue that the strategy lacks forward-looking economic ambition? What are the real benefits of alignment between DSIT, MOD and UKSA, as well as the explicit decision to prioritise four capability pillars – Satcoms, space domain awareness (SDA), ISAM and launch?
Join Jonners and his guests as they debate how Government procurement, private capital and a “one-sector” coalition can turn strategic intent into binding contracts and global scale-ups.
Contributors:
Dr Alice Bunn, Co-Director, UK Space Agency
Sam Adlen, Co-CEO, Space Solar
Andrew Stanniland, Managing Director, MDA Space UK
Dr Barbara Ghinelli, Director of Innovation Clusters & Harwell Campus
Dr Sarah Beardsley, Director, RAL Space
Jonathan Davies, The Kármán Line
Key topics covered:
Live panel reaction to the UK Space Strategy at Harwell Campus
State of the Space Nation 2026 report
One Government approach vs One Sector execution
Prioritising the four capability pillars
Economic growth logic
Rebooting execution: Contracts, anchor customers, and £7.8B committed spend
UK Space and Defence Gateway launch & Investor Council
Discovery science vs. short-term applied research (RAL Space / UKRI)
Taking a VC portfolio approach to deep-tech risks & scaling
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Debris removal: “The largest single national contract the UK Space Agency has ever awarded”
2026/10/16
How does winning the UK Space Agency's Active Debris Removal (UK ADR) contract position ClearSpace to capture defunct satellites? How do their multi-arm robotics and advanced machine-learning algorithms match up to the task? How does active debris removal establish a long-term national capability and commercial service layer in space? And what does a transition from R&D grants to major anchor contracts mean for hyper-scaling UK In-Orbit Servicing, Assembly, and Manufacturing (ISAM)?
Join Jonners as he talks with Rob Atchison, Managing Director of ClearSpace UK, about active debris capture, cross-domain defence resilience, and setting firm foundations for ISAM across Europe.
Contributors:
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | Website
Rob Atchison, Managing Director, ClearSpace UK
Rob Atchison | LinkedIn
ClearSpace UK | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
The UK Active Debris Removal (UK ADR) missionRobotic multi-arm capture of non-cooperative, defunct satellitesIn-orbit inspection, station-keeping, hardware replacement, and deorbitingTransitioning from R&D grants to government anchor procurement contractsIn-Orbit Servicing, Assembly, and Manufacturing (ISAM)Unlocking institutional private capital & venture hyper-scalingOrbital resilience for essential terrestrial infrastructure (maritime, healthcare)Cross-domain space defence (UK Space Command) & soft powerDesigning future satellites for modularity, servicing, and recycling Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Metalysis: How lunar life support, deep space refuelling and 3D-printed infrastructure will transform space exploration
2026/10/09
How does Metalysis strip oxygen as a captured gas from metal oxides and convert the oxide into pure metal alloys? How will this help us to supply life support for lunar bases or create rocket propellant for deep-space refuelling? Once the oxygen is stripped away how can the remaining metal alloys be repurposed for 3D-printed infrastructure, landing pads or road surfaces? And how can Metalysis’ research help regolith inks to print electronic components directly in space?
Join Jonners as he talks with Nitesh Shah, Director CEO, and Ian Mellor, Managing Director of Metalysis, about the extraction of lunar oxygen, high-performance engine alloys and domestic supply chain resilience. Find out how a UK company is pioneering technologies that will allow future exploration missions to “live off the land”.
Contributors:
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | Website
Nitesh Shah, Director CEO, Metalysis
Nitesh Shah | LinkedIn
Metalysis | LinkedIn
Ian Mellor, Managing Director, Metalysis
Ian Mellor | LinkedIn
Metalysis | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Solid-state Cambridge FFC process & electrochemical oxide reductionIn-situ resource utilization (ISRU) on the MoonExtracting ~95% oxygen yield from aluminosilicate lunar regolithRegolith metal byproducts for lunar roads, landing pads, and constructionAI and machine-learning-driven alloy discoverySovereign production of C-103 (niobium-hafnium) rocket engine alloyClean, energy-efficient domestic titanium production vs. traditional Kroll processingIn-space 3D printing, conductive regolith inks, and electronics manufacturingTransitioning from R&D to commercial midstream manufacturing Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Space debris: 130 million “poppy seed bullets flying around, punching holes in things”
2026/10/02
Does sub-centimetre, non-trackable space debris pose an existential threat to satellites and orbital infrastructure? How can ultra-lightweight "black box" sensors turn a spacecraft's surface into an impact detector to diagnose anomalies? What do satellite operators need to unlock affordable, named-peril collision insurance through Lloyd's of London? And how can a "neighbourhood watch" network of sensor-equipped satellites build live space domain awareness to protect the space economy?
Join Jonners as he talks with Dan Terrett, Co-Founder and COO of Odin Space, about the 130 million rogue “poppy seed bullets” flying around, punching holes in satellites and the challenge this presents to insuring a market that is moving from frontier to real economy at an incredible pace.
Contributors:
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | Website
Dan Terrett, Co-Founder & COO, Odin Space
Dan Terrett | LinkedIn
Odin Space | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Lethal, non-trackable sub-centimetre orbital debrisOdin Space "black box" impact sensing & diagnosticsInstant failure attribution vs. unexplained spacecraft anomaliesLloyd's of London & named-peril collision insuranceSpace Domain Awareness (SDA) & "Neighbourhood Watch" network alertsTransitioning from seed venture risk to mature institutional capitalCommercial space platforms & hosted payload risk management (D-Orbit)Space sustainability & the Astra CartaTransatlantic synergy: US satellite ecosystem & UK financial/insurance markets Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Tim Peake: "Put a human and our best robot with AI on Mars today... and a human will still do more."
2026/09/25
What is the true balance between human spaceflight and robotic exploration when it comes to science, inspiration, and decision-making capabilities? How is space transitioning from a niche frontier to an everyday commercial workplace? What role do regulatory frameworks, such as the United Nations, the Artemis Accords, and the Astra Carta, play in keeping orbit and the lunar surface safe and sustainable? And how can the UK Government act as an "anchor customer" to bridge the commercial "valley of death" for domestic space startups?
Join Alice and Jonners in this special episode recorded in Chichester Marina with British astronaut Tim Peake as he shares insights on space adaptation syndrome, commercial space stations, lunar research bases, global space traffic management, and the future of human exploration to Mars.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Tim Peake, Astronaut
Tim Peake | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Human spaceflight vs. robotic explorationSpace Adaptation Syndrome (nausea & gravity adjustment)Normalising space as a commercial workplaceTransition from space stations to commercial Low Earth Orbit (LEO)Artemis programme & sustainable lunar research basesAstronaut selection mindsets, psychological profiles, and stress testingInternational space cooperation & soft power (ISS legacy)Governance, leaseholds, and regulatory frameworks on the MoonThe Astra Carta & space sustainabilityHuman exploration of MarsGovernment as “anchor customers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Alisha Fuller-Armah: A story so sensational it made Alice Bunn cry
2026/09/18
How can a malleable, plant-based bio-leather grown off-grid in Scotland transform under extreme heat into an RF-transparent, rock-like ceramic shield? What does Draconite mean for the economics of spacecraft re-entry and thermal protection systems? How does self-taught material science disrupt traditional "old space" gatekeeping and university lab paradigms? What are the dual-use applications of biomimetic thermal shields across space re-entry, defence satellite protection, and terrestrial wildfire mitigation?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk with the astonishing Alisha Fuller-Armah, CEO and founder of Draconite, about her journey from scaling a Caribbean wedding venue to inventing a self-vitrifying, plastic-free thermal protection material and proving it works by pointing a blow torch at her own hand!
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Alisha Fuller-Armah, CEO & Founder, Draconite
Alisha Fuller-Armah | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Draconite bio-based thermal shield technologySelf-vitrification and heat-soak insulation vs. traditional ablationRF transparency during re-entry communicationsOff-grid, low-cost cellulose fermentation & sovereign manufacturingUK Space Agency Accelerator & scaling deep techDefence applications (anti-laser satellite shrouds)Overcoming academic gatekeeping through self-taught sciencePFAS-free, traceless, and non-toxic space materialsTerrestrial wildfire and passive fire protection Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The UK National Space Strategy: Groundbreaking Government commitment but no new money
2026/09/11
Does the Government's latest space strategy properly connect defence, civil policy and commercial space growth? How will the MOD and DSIT merge procurement approaches? What are the specific outcomes targeted across the four core focus areas: Satcoms, Space Domain Awareness, Launch, and In-Orbit Servicing, Assembly, and Manufacturing? How do freedom of action and assured access balance sovereign UK capabilities with NATO and ESA alliances? And what major regulatory, insurance, and procurement changes are coming down the line?
Join Jonners and Stephanie Ayres, Head of Policy at UKspace, as they debate whether the machinery of Government is fully backing a practical blueprint for picking winners and driving national security and economic growth or delivering just another false dawn.
Contributors:
Jonathan Davies, The Karman Line
Jonathan Davies | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | Website
Stephanie Ayres, Head of Policy UKspace
Stephanie Ayres | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
New National Space Strategy overview
MOD and DSIT procurement alignment
Government as an "anchor customer"
Four core capability pillars (Satcoms, SDA, Launch, ISAM)
Sovereign ISR and Space Control
Freedom of action vs. Allied integration (NATO/ESA)
Assured launch (SaxaVord & Spaceport Cornwall)
"Picking winners" and targeted funding awards
Regulatory and insurance sandboxes (City of London)
Enterprise Category Management and cross-departmental governance
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Hetti Barkworth-Nanton: Turning swords into ploughshares
2026/09/03
How does Ploughshare turn Ministry of Defence owned R&D into commercial businesses serving wider society? Why has commercialising defence technology historically been "suboptimal," and how is the newly launched Technology and Growth Alliance (TAG) shifting the dial? How can classified innovations be declassified by separating the underlying core technology from its military application? What structural changes are required in UK venture capital to build "bolder, braver" scale-ups capable of navigating defence procurement and space markets?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk with Hetti Barkworth-Nanton, CEO of Ploughshare, about how to take brilliant defence innovation out of Government labs and apply it to wider commercial markets like healthcare and telecoms. Plus, navigating the rules, regulations and protection rackets. “No, you can’t go speak to the Minister”.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Hetti Barkworth-Nanton CBE, CEO, Ploughshare
Hetti Barkworth-Nanton | LinkedIn
Ploughshare | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Commercialising defence R&D & Ploughshare's missionThe Technology and Growth Alliance (TAG)Declassifying top-secret defence techReverse dual-useCultural shifts in academia and corporate defence primesSpace and defence tech synergyDefence procurement challengesThe Defence Investment Plan (DIP)UK venture capital gapsFunding dual-use scale-upsPurpose-driven leadership & organisational culture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Satellite Applications Catapult: Ruthless selection, world-class winners, and executive engineers
2026/08/27
How does the Satellite Applications Catapult evaluate and select "high-potential" space ventures? What role does commercial matchmaking, tech validation, and international growth strategy play in scaling startups into global leaders? How can the UK shift from passive R&D grants to an "Olympic-style" industrial policy that goes all-in on world-class space "winners"? What structural changes—such as rapid regulatory approvals, sovereign capital funds, and secure defence gateways—are needed to cut a path through the space growth jungle?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk with John Abbott, CEO of the Satellite Applications Catapult, about the ruthless selection strategies to unleash businesses with the highest potential for growth. And why this process is worth it, even if you pass on The Beatles.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
John Abbott, CEO, Satellite Applications Catapult
John Abbott | LinkedIn
Satellite Applications Catapult | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Satellite ApplicationsCatapult operating model & impactEvaluating "high-potential" space businessesOpen Cosmos, Mag Drive, and UK space scale-upsThe three core Catapult missions: Beyond Earth, Autonomous & Connected Earth, Resilient EarthMatchmaking vs. ChallengeAccelerating Sovereign space capability & international trustIndustrial Strategy: "Picking winners" vs. broad SME supportCross-government alignment, capital growth, and rapid regulationThe Space and Defence Gateway at Harwell Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Spaceport Cornwall: From Virgin Orbit to multi-use aerospace and drone hub
2026/08/20
What really happened at Spaceport Cornwall after the 2023 Virgin Orbit launch? Why, from an operational and regulatory standpoint, was the failed mission actually a success? How can spaceport infrastructure and segregated airspace be repurposed for high-volume drone testing, hypersonic flight, and returning spaceplanes? What is the true definition of "assured launch," and why is domestic launch capability crucial for national resilience? How is Cornwall evolving beyond its launch heritage into a multi-sector commercial technology ecosystem?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk to Ross Hulbert, Space Engagement Lead at Spaceport Cornwall, and discuss the realities of pioneering spaceports, mixed airspace regulation, local economic impact, and subsidising future space access.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Ross Hulbert, Space Engagement Lead, Spaceport Cornwall
Ross Hulbert | LinkedIn
Spaceport Cornwall | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Spaceport Cornwall evolution & operations Virgin Orbit launch legacy & technical learnings Mixed airspace & BVLOS drone testing Hypersonic testing & spaceplane recovery Assured vs sovereign launch capability Global launch bottlenecks & reliance on SpaceX Space Clusters & Cornish economic growth Subsidising space access for UK operators Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dual-Use & Working Together
2026/08/13
What does "dual-use" technology truly mean? What happens when academia, industry, and government join forces at an institution like NESST? What connects the London Olympics and the MoD’s Skynet satellite system? And are policy and legal hurdles holding back the full potential of dual-use tech?
In this episode, Dave Moody - Director of the North-East Space Skills and Technology Centre (NESST) at Northumbria University - joins Alice Bunn and Jonners to explore the critical dual-use elements of space technology. From the First Gulf War to the London Olympics, space has, time and time again, quietly delivered essential capabilities. Is it time we start singing its praises?
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Dave Moody, Director, North East Space Skills and Technology Centre, Northumbria University
Dave Moody | LinkedIn
Northumbria University | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Dual Use
Military
London Olympics
SkyNet
NESST
Northumbria University
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Spaceports: Past, Present, and Future
2026/08/06
Does the UK still have its adventure spirit? With other countries getting the jump on UK launch, can the nation take advantage of the pathway forged in Cornwall? What commercial opportunities arise when the government plays a more active role in launch? Should a spaceport just be viewed as a normal piece of infrastructure, and how can it connect to its local setting? How can the space industry take on climate challenges head-on?
Spaceport builder Melissa Quinn joins Alice and Jonners to talk launch, alignment, and whether the UK can get back into its groove as the rest of the world looks to take off. The powerhouse behind Spaceport Cornwall’s first launch and Spaceport Nova Scotia’s ambitious plans tells her inspiring story about achieving big things. This episode is a must-listen.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line | LinkedIn
Melissa Quinn, Vice President Spaceport Operations, Maritime Launch Services
Melissa Quinn | LinkedIn
Maritime Launch Services | LinkedIn
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How to build future facing talent pipelines that accelerate UK space strategy
2026/07/30
How have skill requirements in the UK space sector shifted from foundational engineering to critical system architects and project managers? How does a landscape of over 1,900 specialised companies compare to vertically integrated giants like SpaceX? What impact will the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology (DSIT) and UK Space Agency (UKSA) re-merger have on scaling up space businesses? How can the UK leverage international partnerships and domestic "national champions" to accelerate defence and civil space capabilities?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk with Andrew Stanniland, Managing Director of MDA Space UK, about building talent pipelines that reward new visions and ideas, defence alignment through the Defence Investment Plan (DIP), being humble and respectful of international markets and communication skills “on steroids”.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line
Andrew Stanniland, Managing Director, MDA Space UK
Andrew Stanniland | LinkedIn
MDA Space UK | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Space sector skills & recruitment strategiesUK space industry structure & 1,900+ company ecosystemCollaborative industry cultureDSIT & UK Space Agency structural changesDefence Investment Plan (DIP) and military spaceNational champions and M&A trendsRegulatory & technology sandboxesInternational space partnerships & pace of execution Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Unlocking Very Low Earth Orbit (VLEO) and how the UK becomes the global gateway
2026/07/23
Why is the orbital region between 10 km and 500 km currently empty? How can operating in Very Low Earth Orbit (VLEO) transform Earth observation, direct-to-device mobile connectivity, and telecommunications? How does VLEO solve the LEO problem of satellite collisions and failures creating space debris that lingers for decades? How do you solve the extreme engineering challenges of atmospheric drag, atomic oxygen corrosion, and continuous propulsion? And how is the UK positioning itself as a global gateway for this emerging space domain?
Join Alice and Jonners as they talk with Anatolii Papulov, CEO and Co-founder of New Orbit, about pioneering VLEO satellite platforms, high-speed experimental iteration, and bringing "American velocity with European depth" to the UK space ecosystem.
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Jonathan Daves, The Karman Line
Jonathan Daves | LinkedIn
The Karman Line
Anatolii Papulov, CEO and Co-founder of New Orbit
Anatolii Papulov | LinkedIn
New Orbit | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Very Low Earth Orbit (VLEO)Direct-to-device connectivityAtomic oxygen corrosionElectric propulsion systemsSelf-cleaning orbits & Space sustainabilityRapid iteration & In-house testingSovereign space manufacturingUK space talent & Scale-ups Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Karman Line Live in Cornwall: Bottlenecks, redundancy, Musk, Extinction Rebellion and fights over “the same 10 kids”
2026/07/14
How is geopolitics disrupting standard launch operations? Why are nations, including the UK, looking to build localised infrastructure rather than rely on giant space operators like the US? And rather than overriding local communities and sensitive environments, how can the next generation of spaceports prioritise “space for good”?
Why is the space industry a communications basket-case? For a sector so clearly cool and exciting, how is it that the storytelling becomes pigeon-holed for “billionaires or physicists” rather than firing imaginations with concepts like “intergalactic architects”? How can movies like Wall-E and The Martian help shift the dial?
To combat severe workforce shortages, how should primary school educators be inspiring a more diverse, radical group of creative problem solvers? Why do formative educational choices limit rather than expand career paths for young people?
Contributors:
Alice Bunn, President of UKspace
Dr Alice Bunn OBE FIMechE FRAeS CEng | LinkedIn
UKspace: Overview | LinkedIn
Melissa Quinn, Spaceport Builder
Melissa Quinn | LinkedIn
John Hudson, Chief Survival Instructor, UK military
John Hudson | LinkedIn
Caitlin Gould, Founder, TECwomen and TECgirls
Caitlin Gould | LinkedIn
TECwomen CIC | LinkedIn
Key topics covered:
Sovereign capabilityGeopoliticsCommunicationEmerging talentPsychological resilienceEnvironmental complianceLocal communities Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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