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Nancy Guthrie has been missing from her Tucson home since Feb. 1, 2026, and in this full episode Tony and retired FBI behavior chief Robin Dreeke set her case beside another one where the first investigators got it wrong. They go through the missed chances in the Guthrie investigation: the porch left untaped for three days, according to The Wall Street Journal, the home Sheriff Chris Nanos admits was released too soon, and the DNA sent to a private lab in Florida. Robin explains how long the person who took Nancy can keep the secret. They also cover both closing arguments in the trial of former Stoughton detective Matthew Farwell, accused of killing Sandra Birchmore after State Police first treated her death as a suicide. Farwell has pleaded not guilty. Nanos disputes the Journal's findings. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SandraBirchmore #HiddenKillers #SavannahGuthrie #MatthewFarwell #TrueCrime #RobinDreeke #PimaCounty #FarwellTrial #TrueCrimePodcast

A note investigators believe came from the person who took Nancy Guthrie apologized to her family. Nine months after she was taken from her Tucson home, the writer has never come forward, and a $1.2 million reward from the family and the FBI sits unclaimed. Tony and retired FBI behavior chief Robin Dreeke look at the person keeping this secret. The note claimed Nancy died soon after she was taken and said the writers never meant to hurt her. Robin explains what guilt like that does to someone over time, and what usually pushes a person in that position to finally come forward. Savannah Guthrie and her family are still asking anyone with information to call 1-800-CALL-FBI or 520-88-CRIME, and tips can be anonymous. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #BringNancyHome #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PimaCounty #RobinDreeke #Tucson #MissingPerson #TrueCrimePodcast

The blood on Nancy Guthrie's porch was hers. The first deputies who saw it had a different idea, according to The Wall Street Journal, and the porch went untaped for three days. Nine months after Nancy was taken from her Tucson home, Tony and retired FBI behavior chief Robin Dreeke go through the chances investigators missed or closed off: the home released too soon, the earlier visit by the masked man that sources say the sheriff's department brushed off, the doorbell picture the FBI director posted, and the DNA sent to a private lab in Florida instead of Quantico. Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos disputes the Journal's findings and says his department works closely with the FBI. Nancy's family is still asking anyone with information to come forward. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #BringNancyHome #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #RobinDreeke #Tucson #TrueCrimePodcast

Nancy Guthrie's case is part of this full episode with retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer, alongside Sandra Birchmore and Alex Murdaugh. Jen is chasing a private analyst's lead on phones that came near Nancy's Tucson home in January 2026. Nancy's medication was left behind when she was taken, and her pacemaker lost its link to her phone at 2:28 a.m. on February 1st. Jen believes the crew had a place picked out to hold her. Jen also rates the evidence against Matthew Farwell before closings on November 6th, and the SLED investigation Alex Murdaugh's lawyers say should get his indictments thrown out on November 13th. The combined reward for Nancy is more than $1.2 million; anyone with information can call 1-800-CALL-FBI. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #SandraBirchmore #AlexMurdaugh #NancyGuthrieChannel #Tucson #FBI #FarwellTrial #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers

Jennifer Coffindaffer, retired FBI special agent, joins me with her latest thinking on Nancy Guthrie's disappearance from Tucson. A private data analyst told her he's flagged phones that came near Nancy's home in January 2026, and he says the FBI hasn't called him back. Sources say the masked man on Nancy's doorbell camera was there January 11th, three weeks before she was taken. Investigators asked for neighbors' video from all of January. Jen believes the crew had a place picked out to hold Nancy, and that she likely died within days, before the second ransom note arrived. Jen also takes on Nancy's November 2025 appearance in the Today show homecoming feature Savannah filmed in Tucson. Anyone with information can call 1-800-CALL-FBI. The combined reward is more than $1.2 million. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieChannel #Tucson #FBI #MissingPerson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers

At the heart of the Nancy Guthrie case is a painful absence: no confirmed public explanation for her disappearance. That silence has left Tucson residents to argue over possibilities. Retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer says she spent time listening to those conversations in two places closely tied to Nancy’s story: a restaurant and the streets of her Catalina Foothills neighborhood. Coffindaffer visited El Charro, which she describes as Nancy’s favorite restaurant. She says she asked the people around her whether they believed Nancy was alive. Nobody she interviewed offered that answer. A group of ten women from Minnesota brought up Jacob Wetterling. Another diner repeatedly declined comment. His wife expressed anger with the sheriff. And two hostesses told Coffindaffer they had never heard Nancy’s name. That is a portrait of one evening, not a poll of Tucson and certainly not proof of an outcome. She then spent days asking neighbors what they had heard. She describes five theories from five sources, including one that startled her and one she thinks may hold a small, testable clue. She also inspected roads leading toward the border. Coffindaffer cautions that the most startling theory has no evidence behind it. We do not repeat that theory as fact, and none of these accounts identifies a perpetrator. Tony Brueski joins Coffindaffer and retired FBI behavioral expert Robin Dreeke to look at the human side of an unresolved investigation. What makes a familiar place suddenly feel unsafe? Why can people standing on the same street draw opposite conclusions? And what must investigators establish before a neighborhood belief deserves the name evidence? Nancy’s family needs answers, not a louder rumor mill. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #JenniferCoffindaffer #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #MissingPerson #TrueCrime #NancyGuthrieCase

Nancy Guthrie’s family has been left waiting for answers since she disappeared from her Catalina Foothills home in Tucson. Two areas now sit at the center of this combined episode: the street a possible abductor would have traveled and the porch where investigators looked for evidence. Both have become the subject of scrutiny by retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer. Coffindaffer says she visited the street at night, parked, switched off her headlights and looked around. She reports enough porch and landscape lighting to see considerable distances with her own eyes. She also says her phone camera could not capture the same visibility. That difference is central to the debate. A lit neighborhood may hold useful cameras, but their settings, angles, storage and operating status determine whether they actually captured a vehicle. The established timeline is more limited than some headlines suggest. On February 1, 2026, the home’s doorbell camera disconnected at 1:47 a.m. Software detected activity at 2:12. Nancy’s pacemaker app lost its connection at 2:28. None of that makes 2:28 the confirmed moment she was taken. Authorities have not publicly identified a getaway vehicle from that sequence. Coffindaffer also asks whether the front-door mat and a reportedly torn piece of vegetation were collected for testing. Those questions should be answered by scene photographs and evidence logs, not assumed either way. A documented forensic development adds a separate concern: a hair sample moved from a private Florida lab to FBI testing, and later reporting said the result was inconclusive. Tony Brueski and retired FBI behavioral expert Robin Dreeke join Jennifer Coffindaffer to ask what reliable evidence should look like in a case carrying such high stakes. This conversation follows the missing footage, the disputed porch items and the laboratory timeline without turning unanswered questions into accusations. Nancy Guthrie remains the person at the center of every one of them. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #JenniferCoffindaffer #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #MissingPerson #ForensicEvidence #TrueCrime

Jennifer Coffindaffer flew to Tucson and investigated the Nancy Guthrie case on the ground for a week. She walked the street after midnight and says the neighborhood isn't dark the way everyone reported. She stood at the porch and says deputies left evidence in plain sight. She pulled apart the sheriff's Florida lab story. She sat at El Charro, Nancy's favorite restaurant, and asked the room — not one person thinks Nancy is alive. She drove toward Nogales and looked at the checkpoints. She collected theories from every corner of the Foothills. One of them she held back. This is the complete four-part conversation with Tony and Robin Dreeke: the night walk, the porch and the lab, El Charro, and what the neighborhood believes. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #TrueCrime #MissingPerson

Jennifer Coffindaffer flew to Tucson to ask Nancy Guthrie's neighbors the same question she asked in every FBI interview: what do people think happened? The answer that shocked her came from the wealthy end of the Catalina Foothills. Coffindaffer says there's zero evidence behind it. She also says she has a second theory she saved for another show. One couple told her they were certain. A source nearby blamed someone from Nancy's past. Coffindaffer drove toward the border and checked the routes herself. She sorts it with Tony and Robin Dreeke. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Watch Robin Dreeke’s MasterClass: http://masterclass.com/robindreeke  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #TrueCrime #MissingPerson

El Charro is Nancy Guthrie's favorite restaurant — the oldest family-owned Mexican restaurant in America. Jennifer Coffindaffer sat there one night in October and interviewed about two dozen diners and the staff. Nobody believes Nancy is alive. Two couples said the sheriff blew it from the beginning. A man told Coffindaffer no comment three times. Ten women from Minnesota compared the case to Jacob Wetterling — a masked stranger, nearly twenty-seven years before a confession. The staff said the dead season filled with tourists because of Nancy, and the two hostesses at the door had never heard her name. Coffindaffer walks through it with Tony and Robin Dreeke. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #TrueCrime #MissingPerson

Jennifer Coffindaffer flew to Tucson and looked at Nancy Guthrie's porch for herself. The man on the doorbell camera had torn a clump of vine off the house to block the lens. That clump was lying next to Nancy's blood on a porch that's nearly enclosed — nothing blows in there. Coffindaffer says it was never collected. She says the mat the suspect stood on was never bagged either. She read the blood pattern as expirated — coughed up from being grabbed hard, not from a cut. The same week, she heard Sheriff Nanos claim the case isn't cold because he'd flown investigators to Florida. The FBI got the hair out of that lab in April. It had no DNA. A mixed sample of up to four people is the only biological evidence left. Coffindaffer walks through it with Tony and Robin Dreeke. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #TrueCrime #MissingPerson

Retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer flew to Tucson and walked Nancy Guthrie's street after midnight with her headlights off. The AP described this neighborhood as mostly dark. Coffindaffer says she could see twenty yards, down to Nancy's front door — porch lights, up-lights on the cactus, homes lit on both sides. Her camera showed black unless she aimed it at an object. She says the darkness story is a camera limitation, not a lighting condition. She drove every route out of the neighborhood and crossed lit streets, a school, a church, businesses. The only vehicle on camera is a Ring clip two and a half miles away at 2:36 that morning, still unidentified. The no-parking signs from February are still posted at every intersection. Coffindaffer walks Tony and Robin Dreeke through everything she found. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #CatalinaFoothills #PimaCounty #ChrisNanos #TrueCrime #MissingPerson

Nancy Guthrie has been missing since February 1, and the people exploiting her disappearance are now part of the story. Former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer says she received an extortion demand in April at a private personnel email address. The sender also used a middle name she does not publicly use. Coffindaffer reported the contact to the FBI and says it was not a genuine message from Nancy's abductors, but the private details used to reach her were real. Five months later, another sender claimed Nancy was alive in Mexico. Nancy's friend Lauren Serpa said the September 28 contact demanded six Bitcoin and included supposed proof of life. Coffindaffer has discussed signs of AI-generated imagery and digital concealment in these schemes. After reviewing the message, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said on September 29 that it was not credible and warned the public about scammers trying to profit from Nancy's disappearance. The underlying case remains unsolved. Nancy, 84, disappeared from her Catalina Foothills home after a family dinner. FBI-recovered footage shows a masked, armed individual at the front door around the time she vanished. A February ransom note demanded $4 million in Bitcoin and referenced a white watch and a damaged backyard floodlight, details that made investigators take it seriously. A second note claimed Nancy had died and was buried in nature. No public arrest has followed, and the combined reward remains $1.2 million. Jennifer Coffindaffer's experience is the warning inside the warning: a ransom claim can be false while the person sending it still knows enough private information to make the contact feel dangerously credible. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #JenniferCoffindaffer #FindingNancy #SavannahGuthrie #FBI #PimaCounty #CatalinaFoothills #RansomScam #MissingPerson #TrueCrime

Someone sent former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer a ransom demand for Nancy Guthrie — and they knew things they shouldn’t have known. The email arrived at a private personnel address and used a middle name Coffindaffer doesn’t publicly go by. For someone who spent a career in federal law enforcement, that level of personal access is alarming. She reported the demand to the FBI. Local authorities told the public these notes were fakes, but Coffindaffer saw something far more sophisticated — crypto-backed demands with masked IP addresses. Nancy’s friend Lauren Serpa was also targeted, receiving a text demanding six bitcoin with claims Guthrie was alive in Mexico and AI-generated images as proof. These aren’t prank calls. These are organized criminals exploiting a real kidnapping. Nancy Guthrie, 84, vanished from Catalina Foothills, Arizona on February 1, 2026. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #MissingPerson #Arizona #FBI #RansomNote #ColdCase #CatalinaFoothills

A text message reached Nancy Guthrie’s family on September 28 claiming she’s alive and being held in Mexico. Bitcoin was demanded. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department rejected it within 24 hours. A retired FBI agent identified it as a known scam recycled from months earlier. It’s been eight months since Nancy Guthrie, 84, was taken from her home in the Catalina Foothills outside Tucson. Her daughter Annie and son-in-law Tommaso Cioni dropped her off after dinner on the evening of January 31. By the early hours of February 1, Nancy’s blood was on the front porch, her doorbell camera had been disabled, and her pacemaker had lost contact with her phone. The FBI pulled footage from Google’s servers showing a masked individual — armed, wearing gloves, carrying a backpack — at Nancy’s front door. That figure has never been identified. Investigators recovered DNA at the scene that doesn’t match Nancy or anyone close to her, but sources say the sample is “low-level.” Genetic genealogy testing has been running since March without a public breakthrough. The early investigation has been challenged from within. FBI Director Kash Patel says his bureau was kept out for the first four days. The deputies’ union president attributed the first week’s failures to “leadership incompetence” under Sheriff Chris Nanos. The crime scene was released back to the family before the FBI walked through the door. Two ransom notes the FBI calls “potentially legitimate” included details only someone inside the home would know — the placement of Nancy’s Apple Watch, a damaged backyard floodlight. The first demanded four million dollars. The second claimed Nancy had died shortly after being taken and was “buried in nature.” Over $1.2 million in combined rewards. Thousands of tips. No arrest. The strongest remaining lead is a DNA sample that may or may not produce a name. Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292 Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1 Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #ChrisNanos #KashPatel #FBI #PimaCounty #Tucson #TrueCrime #MissingPerson