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I first heard about this guy on the Joe Rogan show. He built a hot business on a simple concept: Companies hire him to embed AI usage and thinking in their businesses. Now he’s creating his own agent software (a customized version of NeoClaw) that he’s installing in companies. Best of all: Jon Cheney says what he built at GenAIPI can be built by people listening to this episode. We break down how. Jon Cheney is the founder of GenAIPI (General AI Proficiency Institute), an AI consulting and enablement company that helps businesses adopt AI through training, strategy, and implementation. He previously built and exited a venture-backed startup, then used AI tools to launch GenAIPI from scratch with just $400. Today, the company is at roughly $4.5M ARR and is evolving from fractional AI consulting into software-assisted AI infrastructure for clients. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

On X, Shane Mac showed how he created an OpenClaw agent and asked it to copy an app. In this interview, he showed how his app Convos, does it. This interview is more visual than our usual ones, so you should head over to our YouTube channel for builders to see it. Shane Mac is the founder of XMTP, the protocol behind Convos, a chat app that allows users to launch and interact with AI agents like OpenClaw and Hermes on their phones. He is building tools that make agents more personal, more mobile, and more useful in everyday life, from coordination and planning to app creation and information monitoring. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Zapier just announced a new way for founders to integrate all their favorite apps with their favorite AI model. Wade Foster, their co-founder, came on to show what we can build with it. Wade Foster is the co-founder and CEO of Zapier, the automation platform that connects thousands of business apps and workflows. In this interview, he shares how he is using Zapier’s SDK and coding agents to automate parts of his own CEO role, from customer outreach and meeting prep to hiring review and daily planning. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

When OpenClaw was released, I watched Nat Eliason create an agent, give it an X account and tell it to earn money. This is the story of how it worked and how you can build an AI agent as your co-founder or employee. Nat Eliason is the operator behind Felix, an autonomous OpenClaw agent business that has generated nearly $200,000 in about two months through products, services, and agent-focused software. He is also building tools like Claw Mart, Sodex, and Agent Letters to support the growing ecosystem of AI agents doing real commercial work online. In addition to this work, he is involved with Alpha School, where he is helping shape entrepreneurship-focused education. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

There are loads of apps that post to social media. So how did Nevo David get Postiz to take off? He started selling it to AI agents Nevo David is the founder of Postiz, an open-source social media scheduling platform designed for automation and AI-driven workflows. By leaning into open source, building tools for agents like OpenClaw, and simplifying integrations through a CLI interface, Nevo turned a crowded product category into a fast-growing bootstrapped SaaS. Today Postiz generates over $45K in monthly recurring revenue while continuing to evolve for the emerging agent ecosystem. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

In private conversations, I’m hearing a lot of founders describe how they’re starting to sell to AI agents, like OpenClaw’s. Zapier has more traction doing that than anyone else I met. So, in my monthly podcast with Zapier’s founder, Wade Foster, I asked him to show me how they’re doing it. Wade Foster is the co-founder and CEO of Zapier, the automation platform used by hundreds of thousands of businesses to connect over 8,000 apps. Since launching in 2011, Zapier has grown into a remote-first company with more than 800 employees and hundreds of millions in revenue. Today, Wade is leading Zapier’s evolution into AI-powered automation, MCP integrations, and tools built for an agent-driven future. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Ben Cera used AI coding agents to build a company that generates $689K. The agent creates ads using AI-generated people, handles customer support, and even builds the product. This is the story of how he built Polsia and the future of business. Ben Cera is the founder of Polsia, an AI platform that autonomously builds and operates online businesses. A serial entrepreneur and former operator at CloudKitchens, Ben is now focused on creating AI-native companies where agents handle engineering, marketing, and operations with minimal human oversight. Polsia allows anyone to launch a business for $50/month, while the platform takes 20% of revenue in exchange for running the company. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Elad Gil was an early investor in 40 unicorns, including major AI companies like Perplexity. I asked him what’s next for software companies now that AI can code better than humans, and what he’d invest in after AI. Elad Gil is the Founder & Investor at Gil Capital, his private investment firm. He has backed some of the most iconic technology companies of the past two decades, including Airbnb, Stripe, Coinbase, Instacart, OpenAI, and SpaceX. A former executive at Twitter and Google, Elad is known for identifying major technology waves early — from social to SaaS to AI — and helping founders build category-defining companies. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Josh Mohrer is the model of the kind of company that can be built with AI. He’s not a developer, but he vibe coded Wave AI into a $7 million / year note taking company. This is how he did it. Josh Mohrer is the founder of Wave AI, an AI-powered audio note-taking app that records, transcribes, and summarizes conversations across meetings, phone calls, and real-world settings. Before Wave AI, Josh was an early leader at Uber, where he served as New York General Manager during the company’s rapid expansion. Today, he runs Wave AI as a highly profitable, one-person SaaS business, using AI to replace entire teams while staying deeply hands-on with product and customers. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

When a new user signs up, most companies add them to a standard drip campaign. Ryan Carson found a better alternative: his AI agent sends customized drip messages to every new registrant. It helps his company close more business. It’s just one way he uses AI to act as his VP of marketing. In this interview, he breaks down how he automated his marketing. Ryan Carson is a three-time founder and longtime SaaS entrepreneur. He’s currently the founder of Untangle, an AI-powered platform designed to help people navigate divorce with clarity and less conflict. With over 25 years of startup experience, Ryan now focuses on building highly specialized AI agents that combine software, automation, and real-world business workflows. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

When YouTube kicked Pat Walls’ Starter Story channel off the platform, he spent a weekend getting Claude Code to build him a replacement. I wanted to see how it was done, so he walked me through it step-by-step. Turns out it was a mistake and he’s back on YouTube, but the site he made was so good that it’s his company’s new homebase. Pat Walls is the founder of Starter Story, a media and education company that helps entrepreneurs learn how real businesses get built. Starter Story generates over $2M a year through subscriptions, courses, and content, and its YouTube channel reaches millions of viewers each month. A former software engineer turned creator, Pat is known for experimenting publicly with new tools—most recently using AI to rebuild his own video platform when YouTube put his business at risk. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

My friend created an AI engineering firm and every time I see him, he tells me how much his business is growing. So I asked him to tell me all about it in this interview. This is the story of how Tarun Thummala created PressW, the Austin-based AI dev shop. Tarun Thummala is the founder and CEO of PressW, an AI engineering firm that builds custom automation systems for real businesses in regulated, document-heavy industries. Instead of selling generic “AI transformation,” Tarun focuses on delivering specific workflow outcomes—often automating 90–95% of manual processes. Today, PressW generates over $2M in annual revenue by combining deep technical execution with a service-first approach to AI. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Yevgeniy Matsay was a real estate broker who hated making cold calls. So he built an AI automation to do it for him. It worked so well that he created an agency that created cold calling automations for other brokers. Today he’s turning his automation service into Rozera, a cold calling SaaS for real estate brokers. Yevgeniy Matsay and Aidan Richards are the co-founders of Rezora, an AI-powered outbound calling platform built for real estate brokers. Yevgeniy is a former real estate agent with a background in computer science and cybersecurity, while Aiden leads sales, marketing, and operations. Together, they’re building AI voice agents designed specifically for real sales conversations—not generic chatbots—starting with real estate and expanding to other industries. Sponsored by Zapier More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Over a decade ago, Joe Apfelbaum was on the podcast, telling me how focusing on SEO helped him grow his agency. That was hard for the idea-a-minute founder. Now he’s back. And AI is enabling him to create more businesses. He broke down the 5 types of companies anyone could make Joe Apfelbaum is the founder of Ajax Union, a digital marketing agency, and EvyAI, an AI-powered sales and social media assistant used by thousands of businesses worldwide. A longtime Mixergy guest, Joe previously grew Ajax Union into an Inc. 500 company before rebuilding it with AI-first systems after COVID. Today, he focuses on creating scalable AI services, software, and education products that help entrepreneurs grow without growing headcount. More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

On the surface, it looks like Ricardo Vice Santos is selling AI-created books for your kids. But he’s aiming for something much bigger: a world where TV, movies, and every other media will be customized to you, using AI. He’s starting with children’s books because that’s what people will buy and what AI can do well today. This is the story of how he’s building DreamStories and how you can build a similar company. Ricardo is the founder of DreamStories, a company creating AI-powered, personalized children’s books tailored to individual families. Previously, he worked in consumer media and was an early team member at Spotify, where he developed a deep understanding of long-tail content and personalization. Drawing on that experience, Ricardo is now building toward a future where books, videos, and even movies are generated uniquely for each person. More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint