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Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Do you get a persistent, dull ache or sharp pain right on the outside of your hip when you run, hike, or even try to sleep on your side? Outer hip pain—clinically known as Greater Trochanteric Pain Syndrome (GTPS)—is one of the most common yet mismanaged issues among active outdoor enthusiasts and field athletes. In this episode, we demystify GTPS and break down what is actually happening at the lateral hip socket. While it was historically labeled as "trochanteric bursitis," modern sports medicine shows that GTPS is most often a compression and load-management issue involving the gluteus medius and minimus tendons. We explore why crossover running strides, steep hiking trails, and aggressive IT band stretches create excessive compressive force over the bony trochanter, worsening tendon irritation. Most importantly, we share actionable, step-by-step strategies to offload sensitive tissues, adjust daily posture and sleeping habits, and build true lateral hip capacity so you can get back to training without pain.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  That deep, aching pain in the middle of your glute that flares up after miles on the trail or hours behind a desk—piriformis syndrome is one of the most frustrating injuries for active runners and hikers. But what is actually happening deep in the hip, and how do you distinguish it from a lower back disc issue? In this episode, we unpack the biomechanics of piriformis syndrome. We explore how the piriformis muscle can compress the sciatic nerve, creating localized glute pain that radiates down the back of the thigh. We break down the biggest daily triggers—from prolonged sitting and driving to steep uphill hiking—and reveal why endless piriformis stretching often makes the irritation worse. Plus, we share actionable strategies on sitting posture adjustments, glute max strengthening, and why staying active is key to long-term recovery. What You'll Learn in This Episode: What is Piriformis Syndrome? How the sciatic nerve travels under (or through) the piriformis muscle, creating peripheral nerve entrapment. Classic Symptoms & Triggers: Recognizing deep glute aches, thigh pain, and why cross-legged sitting, long drives, and steep inclines aggravate it. Piriformis vs. Disc Sciatica: How spinal MRI findings differ from true piriformis syndrome, and why 9 out of 10 cases of leg pain actually stem from the lower back. The Stretching Trap: Why pulling aggressively on an inflamed piriformis causes excess joint and nerve compression instead of relief. Building Glute Capacity: How targeted strength training (especially glute max) and simple lifestyle resets reduce the risk profile and keep you running and hiking pain-free.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  To learn more about customized training programs for adults 40+ or to connect with Oliver and his team, visit Thrive Training Irvine For adults over 40, prioritizing personal health often feels like an impossible luxury. Between managing demanding careers and caring for family, most people spend decades putting everyone else's needs before their own. On the Restoring Human Movement Podcast, host Sebastian Gonzales sits down with Oliver Nam, owner of Thrive Training in Irvine, California, to discuss why busy adults must adopt a "selflessly selfish" mindset. Being selflessly selfish means recognizing that carving out dedicated, non-negotiable time for your own physical health isn't selfish at all—it is the essential foundation that allows you to stay strong, energetic, and capable for the people who rely on you. Many active adults fall into the trap of "yo-yo fitness" because they try to force their bodies into the same high-intensity, bodybuilder-style routines they used in high school or college. These outdated workouts fail to match their current schedules, stress levels, or joint capacities, inevitably leading to joint pain, injury flare-ups, and frustration. Coupled with common barriers like gym intimidation—the anxiety of stepping into crowded, male-dominated weight rooms—and the persistent fear of "getting bulky," many people end up retreating to low-impact cardio machines or quitting altogether. Oliver Nam emphasizes that weight training won't make you bulky without extreme caloric surpluses, but shifting away from isolated muscle splits toward time-efficient, full-body movement patterns is what truly builds functional resilience. Overcoming these barriers requires a shift from short-term fitness projects to a sustainable, lifelong lifestyle. While motivation fluctuates, finding an empathetic community and structured guidance builds long-term accountability, helping empty nesters and active adults reclaim their strength. By committing to progressive overload, proper movement mechanics, and targeted strength work, adults can eliminate chronic pain, travel comfortably, and participate fully in the activities they love. .

In this episode, we tackle the next logical step in our runner's strength series: knee-dominant training. If you've ever had your running or hiking season cut short by a nagging knee condition, your gut reaction might have been to shut it down, rest, and cross your fingers. We dive into why that standard "wait and see" approach usually keeps you on the sidelines, and how intentional, strategic loading is the actual path to long-term joint tolerance. We move past the myths of "bulletproofing" your body and focus on real mechanical principles. You'll learn how to navigate knee sensitivity using maximum muscular contractions—starting with isometric holds like wall sits and split-squat pauses—and how to successfully transition back into compound movements like hack squats, leg presses, and goblet squats. We also take a direct look at popular cross-training modalities like Pilates, yoga, and TRX to break down exactly when they help, where they top out, and why they might not check the box for true heavy resistance training. Listen to learn: Why total rest is rarely the right prescription for non-surgical knee pain. The science of "Reps in Reserve" (RIR) and why the final 5 reps before failure are where the magic happens. How to use isometric holds to safely stimulate quad, hamstring, and soleus contraction without joint irritation. Adjusting your footplate position and shin angle on a leg press to decrease joint stress while maintaining power. Why the "knees over toes" rule is a mandatory reality for descending steep mountain trails. Connect with Performance Place Sports Care: Fix Your Movement Here: https://www.p2sportscare.com/ In-Person & Virtual Care: Connect with our team at our Costa Mesa, CA facility or schedule a multi-state telehealth session by calling 714-502-4243. Subscribe: Hit that follow button so you never miss a real, evidence-based breakdown on athletic performance!

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Have you tried rehabilitation or exercise programs before, only to be left frustrated and still in pain? Here at Restoring Human Movement, we frequently see individuals who haven't found success with traditional approaches, often because the quality of their exercise execution is subpar. In this episode, we're launching the 'Quality Rehab Revolution' to explain why. Many people, after consulting various healthcare providers, YouTube videos, or self-help books, start overthinking their exercises. They might focus on an overwhelming number of cues – like 'pelvis tucked,' 'shoulders down,' 'belly button to spine' – during a simple plank. We'll reveal why this excessive queuing can actually corrupt the quality of movement, hindering your progress rather than helping it. We'll share insights into how cracking these common issues can lead to dramatic improvements in your recovery. If you're tired of putting in the effort without seeing results, tune in to learn how to refine your approach, improve your exercise quality, and finally get the effective rehabilitation you deserve.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  You get a deep, catching pain in the front of your hip or groin after a long run, a grueling hike, or a quick change of direction on the field. You get an MRI, and the diagnosis comes back: a hip labral tear. Suddenly, you're left wondering if your athletic career is over, or if major surgery is your only option. In this episode, we break down everything active individuals—from trail runners and mountain hikers to field-sport athletes—need to know about hip labral tears. We demystify what the hip labrum actually is, how it gets irritated, and the classic symptoms to look out for, such as clicking, locking, deep groin pain, or the feeling that your hip is "catching and clicking" Most importantly, we answer the most critical questions athletes ask: Can you stay active with a labral tear? How do you recover without losing your fitness? We reveal why a tear on a scan doesn't mean you have to stop doing what you love, and how building surrounding muscular capacity and joint stability can get you back to 100%.

Guest Coach Jason Fitzgerald - Strength Running Podcast strengthrunning.com/strength/ for strength content Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/ Plantar fascia pain plagues countless runners, but finding its root cause and treating it effectively can feel like a frustrating trial-and-error process. On a notable episode of The Strength Running Podcast, host Jason Fitzgerald brought on Dr. Mandy Riehl, a rehab chiropractor, former D1 cross-country athlete, and running specialist—to dive deep into what actually causes runner's heel pain and how to solve it for good. Rather than relying on temporary fixes like aggressive calf stretching or resting, Dr. Riehl emphasizes the need to evaluate total foot load tolerance, intrinsic foot strength, and running gait biomechanics. A critical step in true recovery is establishing an accurate differential diagnosis, ensuring that persistent heel pain isn't actually medial calcaneal nerve entrapment, tarsal tunnel syndrome, or referred lumbar radiculopathy masquerading as classic plantar fasciopathy. To build long-term capacity in the foot, treatment must transition away from passive modalities like ice and orthotics toward heavy slow resistance (HSR) and progressive loading. Heavy loading systematically rebuilds damaged fascial tissue and increases lower leg stiffness, which drastically improves energy return, lowers ground contact time, and enhances overall running economy. Endurance athletes often shy away from heavy weight training due to the common myth that lifting will make them bulky. However, because of the interference effect, the metabolic tug-of-war between anabolic and catabolic signaling during endurance volume, runners can safely perform heavy resistance training without adding unwanted mass, gaining vital structural resilience instead. Building this lower-body foundation not only resolves heel pain, but also protects against other frequent overuse conditions like patellofemoral pain syndrome, Achilles load, and plantar overload.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  That sharp pinch or deep ache in the front of your hip every time you drive your knee up, tackle a steep incline, or pick up the pace on a run—hip flexor pain is one of the most frustrating injuries for runners and hikers alike. But why does it happen, and why does stretching it out so rarely solve the problem? In this episode, we break down everything endurance athletes need to know about hip flexor pain. We explore what it actually feels like, what common activities irritate it, and why classic "tight hip" remedies often backfire. Plus, we answer the three most common questions runners and hikers ask

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Is a deep, aching pain in your glute ruining your runs or stopping you from enjoying long hikes? Deep buttock pain is one of the most frustrating and persistent issues for endurance athletes, often making every uphill stride, high step, or long descent feel like a battle. In this episode, we break down the most common causes of deep buttock pain during running and hiking. From high proximal hamstring tendinopathy and deep gluteal syndrome (including piriformis irritation) to sacroiliac (SI) joint stress and nerve entrapment, we explore why this region gets so overloaded under endurance conditions. You'll learn how repetitive hip extension, steep inclines, and lower leg mechanics contribute to localized joint compression and tissue tension. We also share practical strategies to offload sensitive tissues, adjust your stride or hiking mechanics, and safely rebuild load tolerance so you can get back on the roads and trails pain-free.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Achilles pain in runners. If you are struggling with Achilles tendonitis, stiffness, or localized pain that is derailing your training, this episode offers the comprehensive breakdown you've been searching for. Sebastian Gonzales moves beyond standard, generic advice to explore the critical biomechanical factors that are often overlooked in conventional Achilles tendon rehabilitation. This provides a deep dive into the underlying factors that contribute to Achilles heel pain, helping runners and practitioners shift their focus from short-term symptom management to long-term Achilles tendon recovery and injury prevention. Don't let Achilles tendon issues force you to hang up your running shoes. Tune in to understand the complex biomechanics behind your pain and learn the structured, active approach necessary for true, sustainable Achilles tendon healing and performance optimization.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Are you dealing with deep groin catching, hip stiffness, or localized runner's hip pain? In this solo episode, sports chiropractor Sebastian Gonzales breaks down the exact symptoms of hip impingement (Femoroacetabular Impingement / FAI) specifically caused by Cam and Pincer morphologies. Learn how to recognize the telltale signs of a Cam lesion (bone buildup on the femoral head) versus a Pincer lesion (extra coverage by the acetabular rim), how these structural variations alter joint clearance, and why they cause deep, pinching discomfort during hip flexion or internal rotation. Stop guessing about your hip stiffness—learn exactly what these symptoms mean for your stride and how to manage them effectively.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  When navigating knee, hip, or back pain on the trail, many endurance athletes assume they just need to rest or isolate their glutes. In this episode, host Sebastian Gonzales challenges common rehab misconceptions and dives into the real-world biomechanics of lower-body durability for hikers, runners, and backpackers. Pulling directly from the clinical principles discussed in this podcast, we unpack why building true trail resilience takes more than just passive pain management or low-intensity glute drills (like clamshells and bird dogs). Sebastian explains how protecting an injured knee leads to severe quadricep and calf deconditioning, leaving your legs completely unprepared to handle the massive braking forces of an 8-mile mountain decline.  Listen to learn: Why early pain relief is a trap, and why true recovery requires progressive, weighted load parameters. The truth about "knees-over-toes" tracking and why it's a mandatory functional requirement for descending mountains and stepping off large trail obstacles. Master the lowering phase: How a controlled 2-to-4-second eccentric count prepares your legs for rugged downhill braking. Moving beyond forward-and-backward movements: Integrating single-leg step-downs and lateral plane work to safeguard your joints against unpredictable terrain. How to apply these rules to your current routine to build an unstoppable, adaptable body for your upcoming summer or winter objectives. Connect with Performance Place Sports Care: Fix Your Movement Here: https://www.p2sportscare.com/ In-Person & Virtual Care: Connect with our medical team at our Costa Mesa, CA facility or schedule a remote multi-state telehealth consultation by calling 714-502-4243. Subscribe & Share: Send this episode to a trail partner who wants to stay strong, healthy, and active this season!

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  When navigating knee, hip, or heel pain as a runner or hiker, your upper body is probably the last place you look. In this episode, host Sebastian Gonzales covers the pressing pattern—the final foundational piece of our upper-body resistance training series. We move past basic mirror-muscles and unpack how pushing patterns are the true cornerstone of a highly functioning core. Discover the biomechanics of the Anterior Oblique Sling—the crisscross highway of muscle moving from your right shoulder to your left hip (and vice versa)—and learn how it stabilizes your pelvis, unloads your lower body, and prevents common endurance flare-ups like adductor strains and sports hernias. Sebastian breaks down how to choose the right pressing angles for your anatomy, utilizing functional modifications like the half-kneeling "soft lumbar lock" to protect your back and eliminate joint irritation while building compound strength. Listen to learn: Why building maximum capacity in your appendages prevents compensatory overload in your spine and knees. The relationship between overhead extension, excessive back arching, and silent lumbar nerve referrals. How to use a "soft lumbar lock" in a half-kneeling position to enforce spinal neutral under load. Modifying your line of drive: Comparing floor presses, incline variants, and standing cable configurations. Speed vs. Strength: How to manipulate velocity with lighter loads to turn a press into an athletic power movement.

Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Why are structural running and hiking limitations rarely just a lower-body problem? In this continuation of our athletic strength series, host Sebastian Gonzales dives deep into the anatomy of the upper body and introduces a crucial structural link: the pull pattern. If you've been ignoring your upper back or find yourself with a completely frozen arm drive on steep mountain descents, you are forcing your lower body and spine to absorb unnecessary rotational stress. We move past traditional bodybuilding concepts and look directly at integrated human movement. You'll learn about the Lat-Glute Sling (or posterior sling)—the diagonal highway of muscle connecting your back to your opposite glute and IT band—and why a strong upper back provides a mandatory baseline for pelvic control and hip extension. Sebastian also demystifies how to find your ideal elbow alignment using a simple clinical concept called the Power Slot, ensuring your rows, pulls, and suspension movements protect your joints while maximizing neural drive. Listen to learn: Why building strong appendages actively spares your spine from compensation and fatigue over long mileage. The relationship between lack of arm drive, restricted hip extension, and referred lumbar spine pain. How to automatically find your strongest shoulder positioning using the "Power Slot" rule. Modifying your lines of drive: Comparing horizontal barbell rows, single-arm dumbbell setups, and vertical lat pulls. The science of "Retention": How to utilize sticky external cues so your structural changes last between clinic visits.

Guest Coach Jason Fitzgerald - Strength Running Podcast strengthrunning.com/strength/ for strength content Ready to find out why your pain keeps coming back dispite trying everything? Book a free Discovery Call here. https://www.p2sportscare.com/webinars/  Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (00:02) All right, welcome back listeners. This is Dr. Mandy Wayne Fan, now Dr. Mandy Real, for those who have heard my name before. thank you for joining the Movement Movement. Today we have a very special guest. This is Jason Fitzgerald, coach, strength training extraordinaire in the running field. So Jason, for those who don't know you, give us a little bit about yourself. Jason Fitzgerald (00:22) Well, thanks, Mandy. yeah, Jason Fitzgerald. I've been running for good lord, twenty seven years now, which which kind of ages me a little bit. I think I'm pushing twenty-eight years in in as a runner myself. I've been coaching since two thousand and ten and I also host the Strength Running podcast. yeah, I really just try to help runners achieve their potential and get their performances where they want them to be. Jason Fitzgerald (00:50) which is often not where they are, but hopefully through conversations like this we can help get runners over that hump and get them to where they want to be. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (01:00) Totally. Yeah. For for those of you out there who found our podcast through kind of trying to run through an injury, fix an injury, this information today will be a really good bridge from, okay, I'm kind of sorting through the injury now what? How do I stay out of that? Of course, but what can strength training build for me apart from just, you know, fixing my foot pain, for example. so before we get started here, Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (01:28) We're gonna have a pretty general focus. So there's gonna be a lot of information in here. So I would recommend not skipping around too much because we may be referencing things that we talked about earlier in the podcast. So stick around through it all. We'll have a great little takeaways at the end of the show. but we're gonna go over a ton of fun stuff today. Jason Fitzgerald (01:49) Well, Mandy, I I also want to say not only am I excited, I'm a little bit jealous that you probably have a bigger Monstera behind you than I do. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (01:59) It's it's taken some punishment over the years, but it's it's doing okay. It's about the size of covering up my maps, so I'm not gonna know what to do at that point. Jason Fitzgerald (02:10) Yeah, my mine is pushing seven or eight years old and it's also taking a little bit of abuse. It's not in the the best position right now, but you know, that that that's what you're gonna have to deal with when you're dealing with a jungle vine in your office. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (02:23) Right, Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (02:24) right, yeah. It's my only couple plants in here that haven't died yet with my little window. So well Jason Fitzgerald (02:30) Yeah. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (02:30) cool. So so Jason, you're in the strength training world. you are deep, deep in the strength training world for runners. as you mentioned earlier too, if you have not checked out the strength running program podcast, go ahead and check that out after the episode. It's fantastic. but Jason, how did you come to realizing that strength is important? Jason Fitzgerald (02:53) Well, I came to it through a lot of trial and error. it was because I was hurt all the time. You know, it really stemmed from Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (02:59) Mm-hmm. Jason Fitzgerald (03:00) my personal journey as a runner. You know, before I was a coach, you know, I I ran cross-country, indoor and outdoor track throughout high school and again at the collegiate level. And I I was a very injury prone runner, you know, with Achilles tendinopathy and plantar fasciitis and you know, all kinds of different strains and SI joint problems and Jason Fitzgerald (03:22) IT band syndrome. I mean, you name it, I've probably had the injury. And it wasn't until my first marathon, I ran the New York City marathon. And I realized afterward when I had started to, you know, try to return to running again after about a week off. And I I felt terrible. And pretty soon I developed a case of ITBS that laid me out for about six months. And I had to go to four physical therapists. And I was just seeing all these different people and and Jason Fitzgerald (03:53) Trying to leave no stone unturned on how to get past this injury. But then more importantly, not only just get healthy, but what do I do with my training after I get healthy so that I don't have to waste another six months sitting on my couch watching reruns of house because I Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (04:09) Yeah. Jason Fitzgerald (04:10) I'm just bored. I really just like to run and I want to get back out there and keep training. So it was a little bit of a process, you know, like I think at the very beginning of of that whole journey for me, Jason Fitzgerald (04:22) I started, you know, incorporating certain body weight, strength exercises, much more mobility work, doing some, you know, band work, medicine ball work, things like that, very running specific, so that I could, you know, get strong in a way that runners care about and that would actually help me stay healthy. and now that's evolved a little bit. You know, I still do a lot of that kind of work and I still prescribe it for my athletes as well that I coach and that I work with, but I'm also fully. Jason Fitzgerald (04:52) in recognition of how valuable weightlifting is in a gym. And yes, it's great for kind of building more durability, more resilience to injury, but in regards to your running economy and your performance and your body composition and all the other lovely things that we love about weightlifting, you know, there's a lot to love about it. And, you know, if you're any kind of performance oriented runner, Jason Fitzgerald (05:17) Which doesn't mean that you're a professional or anything. It just means that, you know, you have some goals. You want to run a certain distance. You want to break a certain time in, you know, a given distance. We have to start thinking much more strategically about your training. And I think strength training is so important. I don't even really call it cross-training. You know, it's just Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (05:35) Mm-hmm. Jason Fitzgerald (05:36) part of the training process that Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (05:38) Yes. Jason Fitzgerald (05:38) runners need to really achieve their best. So it it was a it was a very big journey for me, you know, at the beginning. I didn't even Jason Fitzgerald (05:46) lift at all. I didn't do any strength work. I didn't think it was necessary. You know, I I really was just 18 years old and could get away with a lot of, you know, poor exactly. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (05:53) Right. You made a rubber. Jason Fitzgerald (05:56) You know, I could just go to sleep at night and then any problem I was dealing with would be gone by morning. You know, to be 18 again. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (06:00) Right, right. Right. Jason Fitzgerald (06:03) So I think my youth masked a lot of the training errors I was making at the time. And now that I'm 42 years old, I really have to be thinking a lot more strategically about Jason Fitzgerald (06:15) How I'm structuring my training. And, you know, coming from that college cross-country and track background, it has been very eye-opening coaching adult recreational runners over the last 16 years because, you know, they don't have the same kind of movement fluency that a lot of college athletes have. And so we've got to build a lot of that into the training program so that number one, they just feel much better on a day-to-day Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (06:42) Mm-hmm. Jason Fitzgerald (06:42) basis, but also. Jason Fitzgerald (06:44) They're building that resilience into the program. They're they're getting the results that they're looking for. They're getting injured less. They're staying healthy for longer. So, you know, I I'm I'm now someone who is such a big proponent of strength training. Now, look, that doesn't mean I love it. I'd rather be out there running a couple more miles. I mean, you know, Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (07:00) Right. Right, right. Jason Fitzgerald (07:02) I'll raise my hand. I'm a pure runner through and through. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (07:04) Totally. Same. Jason Fitzgerald (07:06) I don't like being in the weight room, but I understand that it allows me to do what I love to do. And so now I make it a priority. Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (07:14) Yeah, it's like going and, you know, buying shoes. It's not I don't have a passion for shopping, but I need shoes, so I will go get shoes. But I know what you mean about the literacy. So just on the side for fun, I I coach high school cross country and having them in the weight room once a week. You know, they're like fourteen year old kids, just the you know, the kids who've been returning and doing all the other maxing out their mileage and all that. but you know, getting them in a on a hex bar Dr. Mandy Riehl (Wainfan) DC (07:42) for the first time ever and they're they're growing, they barely know where their limbs are. It's it's a it's a very different coaching experience than say my patients who I'm transitioning out of care that have been lifting for twenty years already. It's a a different type of education and a different type of like coaching queuing situation. Jason Fitzgerald (08:01) Yeah, I think it's really it's always really interesting looking at different types of people in the weight room. And and I'll never forget a conversation I had with a USA weightlifting national coach who was talking about why runners should be lifting