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In Part 2 of this 2-part conversation, host Judy Stone continues her talk with Hal Nelson and Bernard Jazzar of the Enamel Arts Foundation. What began as a love of the medium grew into a mission to bring enamel to the public. Learn how they are entrusting their collection to museums across the country, why they believe enamel has to be held to be understood, and who they hope will carry the work forward. 00:00 Living with Enamels 07:44 More to Learn, More to Share 11:43 Distributing the Collection 25:15 So-Called Retirement 29:25 Who Gets Remembered 35:50 Personal Narratives 40:06 The Time and the Place 50:11 Conclusions with Judy and Katy This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit enamelingincontext.substack.com

In Part 1 of this 2-part conversation, host Judy Stone talks with Hal Nelson and Bernard Jazzar—museum curators, art historians, and founders of the Enamel Arts Foundation. Learn how chance encounters with enamel work sparked a decades-long project to recover a nearly lost chapter of American craft history. In this episode: A short-lived 1981 enameling workshop · Happening upon enamels at Southern California flea markets · Why enamel never made it into standard art history curricula · A self-directed project archiving museum collections nationwide. · The 2005 exhibition and book, Painting with Fire: Masters of Enameling in America, 1930–1980 00:00 Introduction 01:50 Discovering Enamels 08:18 A Glimpse in Storage 13:01 Building the Archive 18:57 Painting with Fire - Exhibition and Book 23:40 Closing Reflections with Judy and Katy This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit enamelingincontext.substack.com

Welcome to the first episode of Enameling in Context, a podcast about vitreous enamel and the world that surrounds it. Host Judy Stone has been a professional enamelist for 60+ years, and she still fields questions from people who assume she means teeth, car paint, or epoxy resin. Joined by her friend and fellow enamelist and metalsmith Katy Joksch, Judy answers the obvious first question: what exactly is the "context" in Enameling in Context? 00:00 The Big Picture 05:12 The Medium 10:11 Why a Podcast 19:56 Education and Enameling 25:17 Goals of This Podcast This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit enamelingincontext.substack.com