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At 2:30 AM on November 28, 1953, a man in his underwear went through a closed window and drapes at the Statler Hotel in Manhattan. The night manager reached him on the sidewalk while he was still trying to speak. Upstairs, a phone call went out from the room: "Well, he's gone." The man was Frank Olson, a government bacteriologist. His family would spend the next sixty years getting three different explanations from the government for what happened in that room. Kelly walks through Olson's work building America's biological weapons program at Camp Detrick, his quiet move onto the CIA's books, and a summer 1953 trip to Europe that left him wanting out. Then come the spiked drinks at Deep Creek Lake and the strange final week in New York that ended on Seventh Avenue. Along the way: the original switchboard operators, a full accounting of Mambo No. 5's sequel, and a SAPS read that negotiates its own discount live. CHAPTERS 0:42 November 28, 1953: the Statler Hotel 6:09 Eric Olson, age nine: fell or jumped 9:38 Who was Frank Olson 11:55 The Special Operations Division, MKNAOMI, and Artichoke 16:35 The 1949 Army security file 23:23 The last trip: Europe, summer 1953 27:53 "Did you ever see a man die?" 31:21 Korea, germ warfare, and the recanted confessions 37:48 Deep Creek Lake, November 1953 44:44 Dr. Harold Abramson and John Mulholland 49:26 The crash and the first phone call 53:44 Part two is coming KEY FOLKS: Frank Olson: bacteriologist, acting chief of the Special Operations Division, and a man who did not follow orders Alice Olson: his wife and former classmate Eric Olson: his son, who spent sixty years on the words "fell or jumped" Armond Pastore: Statler Hotel night manager Norman Cournoyer: colleague and friend, one of the few people Olson confided in Sidney Gottlieb: CIA chemist who ordered the Deep Creek dosing Robert Lashbrook: Gottlieb's deputy and Olson's minder in New York Lt. Col. Vincent Ruwet: Olson's boss and later the family's frequent visitor Dr. Harold Abramson: an allergist consulting for the CIA on LSD John Mulholland: stage magician and author of the CIA's covert-delivery manual Richard Helms and Allen Dulles: upstairs SOURCES AND FURTHER READING Wormwood (2017), Errol Morris's six-part Netflix docudrama Unsolved Mysteries, Frank Olson segment Church Committee hearings and final report CIA security office records and the Deep Creek memo The 1949 Army security file on Olson SPONSOR Sap's: Hydration & Recovery. Get 20% off at http://sapsoriginal.com with promo code AUDIOWOOL. CONNECT Discord: discord.frightday.com The Frightday Society: frightdaysociety.org Email: [email protected] Bluesky / Twitter / Instagram: @frightday Phone line: 1-833-FRIGHT-9 Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original. #FrankOlson #MKUltra #CIA #Wormwood #FortDetrick #ProjectArtichoke #ColdCase #TrueCrime #Conspiracy #Frightday

This week, if they find a body in your frunk, you likely put it there. Thirty-one sloths die before opening day, a surgeon takes the wrong organ, and Return to Nature finally gets its sentence. A widower's grief journal, a finger in the OJ, and Taylor Momsen gets bit again. Dads catch fire, a café called Clunch gets robbed three nights straight, and someone touches Paul Bellini, so much more. Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original.

Author Brad Olsen, whose books make up his Esoteric Series, joins us to discuss his new book, Secrets of Antarctica, and his case that Nazi Germany's occult research, advanced craft, and key personnel survived the war and went south. Brad links the Thule Society and the Ahnenerbe, the 1938-39 German claim on Neuschwabenland, Hans Kammler and the Bell, the Vril women, and the alleged Haunebu craft to a breakaway German presence he believes still operates under the ice. He cites wartime U-boat maps, Soviet files he says reached the West after the Cold War, and whistleblower accounts. Brad also gives his account of Operation Highjump as a covered-up military defeat. He explains how he reads a widely circulated version of Admiral Byrd's 1947 warning about polar attacks, and he describes what he says was an American and Soviet standoff in Antarctic waters. Along the way he recounts the self-financed sailboat expedition that took him across the Drake Passage, presenting this material to a German audience, a 40-year "time loop" he sees linking the Philadelphia Experiment to the Bell, and his next book on underwater megaliths, including the Baltic Sea anomaly. In this episode (00:00) From travel writer to esoteric author (01:12) An eviction payout funds a trip to the seventh continent (02:48) Catching a sailboat out of Ushuaia (04:00) The Drake Passage, and a quick word on flat earth (05:55) Calving ice and a near man-overboard (07:49) Why a self-financed expedition matters (09:28) Pyramids in the ice, and Nazi flag darts the sea captains still hunt for (11:23) The 1938-39 German expedition and the claim on Neuschwabenland (13:08) Alleged motherships, Hitler's alleged secret speeches, and the hole near the South Pole (15:10) U-boat maps to Agartha (16:10) Tibet, Ernst Schäfer, and the Nazi search for an inner earth (17:48) Mapping Neuschwabenland (18:37) The Schirmacher Oasis, lakes that never freeze, and Brad's U-boat piers theory (20:35) Did the Germans ever leave? (21:46) Kammler, Maria Orsic, and Brad's overlay of Byrd's flight path (24:07) Operation Highjump and Byrd's 1947 warning (26:37) Greenland and Thule (28:14) The Führer's convoy, the Hitler escape theory, and the Dönitz quote (29:47) Enigma, the British in Antarctica, and the lost commando story (31:41) An American and Soviet standoff, as Brad tells it (32:08) The Antarctic Treaty and Brad's account of the "Battle of Highjump" (34:04) The Haunebu and the missing planes (36:30) The Orion file and the Soviet submarine mission Brad describes (38:18) Black market U-boat maps and the Soviet files on the Ahnenerbe (40:00) The Thule Society on the mission patch (41:48) Presenting in Germany, and the discontinued Haunebu model kit (44:53) Next book: underwater archaeology and the Baltic Sea anomaly (47:32) A black basalt octagon and the Black Sun at Wewelsburg (49:19) Kammler, underground bases, and the 40-year time loop (51:16) The Bell and the Vril women (52:18) Where to find Brad Notable moments "All disclosure subjects seem to have a conclusion in Antarctica." On the Antarctic pyramids: "If one of them is built by intelligent hands, it's a complete game changer." What German attendees told him after his talk: "Leave it to an American to come to Germany to tell us our true history in Antarctica." "There's no such thing as a flat earth... Set foot on terra firma." People, places & references mentioned The Thule Society, the Vril Society, and the Ahnenerbe Hans Kammler, Maria Orsic, and Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz The Haunebu, Die Glocke (the Bell), and the Black Sun at Wewelsburg Castle Neuschwabenland and the German Antarctic Expedition of 1938-39 Ernst Schäfer, the German explorer of Tibet Admiral Richard E. Byrd and Operation Highjump Operation Tabarin, Port Lockroy, and Vernadsky station Project Paperclip and the Antarctic Treaty Wild Bill Donovan, whose papers are held at the Army War College, Carlisle Barracks Emery Smith, Linda Moulton Howe and her whistleblower Brian S. Peter Levenda, David Hatcher Childress, Elena Danaan, and Nikolai Subbotin Dennis Åsberg and the Baltic Sea anomaly Kecksburg, the Philadelphia Experiment, and Montauk Contact in the Desert, where this conversation was recorded Find Brad Website and conference schedule: BradOlsen.com  Books, including the Esoteric Series: CCCPublishing.com New book: Secrets of Antarctica: The Untold History of the Ice Continent VISITORS is an Audio Wool original, produced by Byron McKoy. Theme music by Yawns. More episodes at frightday.com/visitors and audiowool.co

Y'all... the trail is coming to an end. Who had the best insanity defense? Editors note...so sorry for the crackling audio...I have no idea how that happened!   This is a preview of the content you can expect when you support us by joining the Frightday Society at http://thefrightdaysociety.org   Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original.

This week, Byron talks with Steve "the Shovel Man" Zaragoza, co-host of Dynamic Banter (formerly of SourceFed and Cloverfeels), about his horror anthology audio drama "Gray Bones in a Grave," why festival horror isn't what it used to be, and an intriguing game of horror this-or-that that somehow ends with a modern cult classic on top. Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a 0:00 Cold open and Steve's résumé 1:00 Reunited, the Skybound/Geena Davis creator contest, and Frankenstein MD 2:17 The rise of the "Scream King"? 2:52 What happened to Fantastic Fest: the pandemic, the Alamo South Lamar move, and Harry Knowles 5:21 This-or-that: a post-Obsession, post-Backrooms look 14:07 First horror memories 18:11 Why comedians make the best horror 25:39 Backrooms, the Osgood Perkins "shadow director" rumor, and Backrooms 2 29:14 A24 vs. Neon vs. the free agents, plus Yellow Veil Pictures 32:07 The Hollow Wheel and Steve's Halloween-season VR streams 33:37 Will & Dawn, Yankee in the South, and the slow-motion car crash 35:59 GRAY BONES IN A GRAVE: origins, the Creeper comic, and the Shovel Man 41:25 Naming the host: RIP the Gravesman and the Casketeer 44:21 The radio-play dream, live table reads, and the Riverside pipeline 47:12 The cast: Bree Essrig, Nicholas Hamilton, Sam Levine, Whitney Moore, and Talking Bones 51:24 The Freaks and Geeks goodwill index, and the one exception 54:06 Creep Tapes, remote interviews, and the upside of the COVID era 55:03 Season one vs. season two, and the curse of a hard-to-type title 1:01:15 Steve's Letterboxd and his half-star takedown of Flubber ABOUT THE SHOW GRAY BONES IN A GRAVE is a horror anthology audio drama created by Steve Zaragoza and Brett Register, with a dash of Owen Carter. Each episode is a self-contained story led into the graveyard by the Shovel Man, a Crypt Keeper-style host who tells you how each resident got buried there. It's fully sound-designed, with live radio-play-style table reads streamed to patrons before each episode drops. Six episodes make up the first season, and scripts for season two are already underway. Website: graybonesinagrave.com (that's GR-A-Y, built by Jesse Stilwell) Patreon: patreon.com/graybonesinagrave Socials: @graybonesshow FRIGHTDAY Discord: discord.frightday.com The Frightday Society: frightdaysociety.org Email: [email protected] Bluesky / Twitter / Instagram: @frightday MORE FRIGHTDAY 700+ episodes covering horror, paranormal, cryptids, true crime, and conspiracies since 2014. An Audio Wool original produced by Byron McKoy. #GrayBonesInAGrave #SteveZaragoza #HorrorPodcast #HorrorAnthology #DynamicBanter #Frightday

This week we yes-clip into the studio to chat psy-cosmic music festivals, unsolved Morse code, and an earth-shattering nepotism revelation, before walking into liminal horror reviewing Kane Parsons' "Backrooms". Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a 0:00 Cold open 0:33 The "endless" Montana compound, liminal spaces, and following your gut 2:42 Housekeeping: AMC Scream Unseen with Jacob 3:30 Mooshfest, Tywalker and the Humanoids, and Galactic Twang 7:05 The Captain Jack situation: cracking Morse code hidden in a Bluey card 8:00 Fire in the Mountains, the Blackfeet Reservation, and a Stanley Hotel winter retreat 10:58 Staff Picks: Cube (1997) and Dead Ringers (1988) 15:41 The Robert Pattinson / Jeremy Irons nepotism saga 19:26 BACKROOMS review begins 21:45 Who is Kane Parsons? A24's record-breaking opening 23:00 Liminal vs. analog horror, Jung, and the threshold self 26:23 Web series origins and the Osgood Perkins "shadow director" rumor 31:00 Spoilers begin: Clark, Mary, and the mono-yellow labyrinth 42:38 What does it all mean? 49:44 Highs, lows, and final ratings ABOUT THE FILM BACKROOMS (2026) is a science fiction horror film written, directed, and co-scored by Kane Parsons, adapted from his own viral YouTube analog-horror web series, with a screenplay co-written by Will Sudik. A jaded furniture salesman discovers a doorway in the basement of his store that opens into an endless, humming yellow labyrinth; when he vanishes inside it, his therapist follows him in. Made for roughly 10 million dollars, it is the debut feature from the self-taught 20-year-old Parsons and reportedly gave A24 the biggest opening weekend in the studio's history. Produced by A24, James Wan's Atomic Monster, Chernin, and 21 Laps, with Osgood Perkins aboard as a producer. TALKING POINTS Where a 20-year-old self-taught director fits into the A24 machine, the leap from analog-horror YouTube series to a 10-million-dollar feature, liminal vs. analog horror as the first genuinely Gen Z horror movement, the Jungian read (threshold spaces, the shadow self, leaving your old self before you've arrived at the new one), the Osgood Perkins "shadow director" rumor and Mark Duplass's defense of Parsons, whether the film earns its ambiguity or just withholds resolution, and Exit 8 and Skinamarink as fellow travelers. STAFF PICKS Byron: Dead Ringers (1988, David Cronenberg) Kelly: Cube (1997, Vincenzo Natali) CONNECT Discord: discord.frightday.com The Frightday Society: frightdaysociety.org Email: [email protected] Bluesky / Twitter / Instagram: @frightday Phone line: 1-833-FRIGHT-9 MORE FRIGHTDAY 700+ episodes covering horror, paranormal, cryptids, true crime, and conspiracies since 2014.  #Backrooms #KaneParsons #A24 #LiminalHorror #AnalogHorror #Frightday #HorrorReview #HorrorPodcast Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday This is an Audio Wool Original.

Originally broadcast April 4th, 2026. Blood gumbo at the rodeo. Turnstile's ousted guitarist runs over the singer's dad. Pooh Shiesty and Papa Shiesty, kidnappers. A twelve-ton Kit Kat heist. Lindsay Buckingham, splashed. The Reese's heir goes rogue. A FEMA man teleports to Waffle House. Orbs from the ocean. ...and more! Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a 0:00 - Intro: The Music and Food Episode 7:00 - Stardust Racers: Epic Universe Roller Coaster Death Update 19:00 - The Toe-Sucker Sentencing 21:00 - Texas Killing Fields Arrest 31:00 - Plasma Orbs, Microwaves, and Worms 37:00 - Panic Fest 41:00 - Turnstile's Guitarist Runs Over the Singer's Dad 55:00 - Lindsay Buckingham Splashed by a Stalker 1:22:00 - Pooh Shiesty and Papa Shiesty Kidnap Gucci Mane 1:39:00 - Tina Knowles' Gumbo Shut Down at the Rodeo 2:11:00 - Serve Me or Die: The Chick-fil-A Robbery 2:18:00 - The Twelve-Ton Kit Kat Heist 2:31:00 - Hershey's Recipe Change and the Reese's Heir 2:54:00 - Big Mac Sauce on Canadian Beaches 3:09:00 - Succulent Chinese Meal Enters the Archives 3:09:30 - Easter Bunny Assault at the Mall 3:22:00 - The FEMA Director Who Teleports to Waffle House 3:26:00 - Orbs From the Ocean: The Easter Prophecy 3:36:00 - Goro Soldiers and the Nuclear Dust 3:47:00 - Outro  Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original. #CasualFrightday #TinaKnowles #Beyonce #PoohShiesty #GucciMane #Turnstile #LindsayBuckingham #WeirdNews #TrueCrime #EpicUniverse #TexasKillingFields #KitKat #Reeses #WaffleHouse #UFO #Orbs #AudioWool #Frightday

Patrick Brice returns to Frightday to talk "The Creep Tapes" Season 3, twelve and a half years after Creep premiered at SXSW and turned Mark Duplass's Peachfuzz into an unlikely horror icon. We get into what it feels like to create a character people are tattooing on themselves, how Season 3 finally nails down a few pieces of the lore (without letting the wolf out of the bag completely), and why this year pushes Peachfuzz out of the cabin and onto a houseboat and a private plane. Patrick also breaks down the pared-down five-person crew, why he's usually the one holding the camera, and how a running notes doc and Mark's breathless post-jog phone calls turn into a six-episode season. The Creep Tapes Season 3 premieres September 15 on Shudder and AMC+, with a two-episode premiere followed by two episodes weekly through September 29.  This season's guests include Kate Siegel, Nicholas Hamilton, Elliott Fullam, Chris Gethard, and Ora Duplass. 💬 Who's your favorite Creep Tapes victim? Drop it in the comments. #TheCreepTapes #PatrickBrice #Peachfuzz #Shudder #horror #foundfootage #MarkDuplass #Frightday Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original.

Parapsychologist Lisa Puzo Strickland joins us for a wide-ranging, unrestrained conversation about the thread she sees running through everything: consciousness. From precognitive dreams she started having at fifteen, while attending a private Baptist school in the middle of Los Angeles, to a PhD in philosophy and parapsychology and a deep dive into the UAP/NHI field, Lisa makes the case that psi, nature, non-human intelligence, and even brain-computer interfaces are all wired to the same source. The through-line is fear, and what to do with it. Lisa's refrain, "you don't prepare someone for fear with fear", anchors a talk that moves from the amygdala hijack to the Minoans meeting the octopus, from biomimicry and Velcro to the overview effect, from Congressional disclosure to a lecture where the lights started dancing. It's optimistic without being naive: a call to open the aperture, keep your feet in the ground, choose credible sources, and meet whatever's coming together. (00:30) Welcome (01:00) Precognitive dreams at fifteen — and reconciling psi with a strict religious upbringing (04:00) Pastor Rasmussen's "God laid it on my heart" moment, and resolving conflicting beliefs as psychological blocks (05:30) Radio in LA, West Hills sightings, and mistaking the others for Hughes aircraft (07:30) Leaving the entertainment industry; the PhD, and finding the science behind the paranormal (08:00) Consciousness as "the train and the train tracks" — the connective tissue between humans, nature, UAP/NHI, and AI (13:00) Control, "othering," and divide-and-conquer as the oldest trick in the book (15:00) Nature as the model: collaboration over predation (16:00) The radio-station metaphor — nobody is a passive player (20:00) Biomimicry: Velcro from cockleburrs, and the vine that shelters instead of smothers (26:00) The amygdala hijack, mantises, and the "four types" (27:30) The Minoans and the octopus; eclipse fear; "you don't prepare someone for fear with fear" (31:00) The octopus as a genuinely alien consciousness (33:00) Telepathy, channeling, missing time, levitation, teleportation — the parapsychology inside the UAP experience (35:00) A VIP dinner with three very different guests, and how it all looped together (38:00) The "aliens.gov" debacle, gatekeeping, and advocates who become the apparatus (40:00) Humility as a neurological trigger, and the three most powerful words: "I don't know" (41:00) The lecture where the lights started dancing (43:00) Glimmers, awe, and the overview effect (45:30) Adaptability and belief — why "we're not ready" is insulting (48:00) Fear, done thoughtfully — horror as a way to war-game the unknown (50:00) Coming disclosure, Congress, and a deep respect for experiencers (55:00) Why there's no single "grail" file — and why decentralization might be the good news (57:00) Gratitude to the media, the local-news equalizer, and getting everyone to the same table Notable moments "Consciousness isn't just that bridge. Consciousness is the train itself. It's the train and the train tracks." "You do not prepare someone for fear with fear." "I've always thought that the three most powerful words in the universe were 'I don't know.'" People, places & references mentioned: Contact in the Desert — the UAP/UFO conference where this conversation was recorded Pastor Rasmussen — the pastor whose "precog dream" helped Lisa reconcile faith and psi Eric Davis — physicist, referenced re: the "four types" Travis Walton — cited for his multi-day missing-time account William Henry (Ancient Aliens), Travis Taylor (Skinwalker Ranch), and Rizwan Virk (author of The Simulation Hypothesis) — the three dinner guests Diana Walsh Pasulka — referenced on the overview effect Avi Loeb and Garry Nolan — named among the academics bringing rigor to the field Lue Elizondo — UAP researcher and author Rear Adm. Tim Gallaudet — named among current disclosure voices Congressman Tim Burchett — referenced re: an upcoming meeting and his "wouldn't sleep at night" remark Mario Puzo (The Godfather) and James Connolly — Lisa's relatives, on her Italian and Irish sides Biomimicry, the amygdala hijack, and the overview effect — recurring frameworks throughout About the guest Lisa Puzo Strickland credits her inner voice for guiding a 30-year career across radio, records, and television. Her search to understand intuition ran through religion, psychology, philosophy, and spirituality, and a turn toward quantum physics surfaced the parallels between nature, science, and paradigm-shifting life principles that eventually led to a PhD in Philosophy and Parapsychology. Her work now spans AI, cryptocurrency, biomimicry, and the pending disclosure of non-human intelligence (NHI/UAP) — all of which, she argues, connect. Lisa lives in Franklin, TN, with her husband and two children. Find Lisa: Website: LisaPuzoStricklandPhD.com Facebook: Lisa Puzo Strickland, PhD

This week we close out our Kilgallen series with the questions the first three were building toward: who killed her, and where did her JFK file go. Byron and Kelly run the suspect list one at a time, then walk through the string of connected deaths and the six places the missing file could have ended up.  CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open, Ross Coulthart, and the Marcello confession 2:03 Part four begins 2:30 Suspect 1: Carlos Marcello 4:30 The RFK deportation and the motive 9:00 Operation CAMTEX, the informant, and the 302 11:20 The 2025 declassification 15:14 Suspect 2: Ron Pataki 16:00 Suspect 3: the CIA, and why she was a target 21:36 The 2025 Joannides file 26:00 Suspect 4: the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover 30:00 Suspect 5: the husband, Dickie Kollmar 35:17 Suspect 6: H.L. Hunt 42:10 The Carousel Club and the Murchison party 45:00 LBJ and Madeleine Brown 48:00 Roger Stone sells a stone 50:00 Back to Pataki: Stanford, Panama, and the taped confession 56:00 The string of connected deaths 1:03:00 Mary Pinchot Meyer and the diary 1:07:40 Three women, one year 1:09:15 Byron's read 1:11:30 Where the file went: six possibilities 1:13:35 What was in the file 1:15:53 Books to chase down 1:17:00 The Marilyn column and the elegy ABOUT THIS EPISODE The finale of Frightday's four-part investigation into the 1965 death of journalist Dorothy Kilgallen, found dead in a third-floor bedroom she never used, with her JFK assassination file missing. Byron and Kelly weigh each named suspect against motive, means, and opportunity, cover the recently declassified files that touch the case, and lay out the pattern of witness deaths the HSCA itself called statistically remarkable. THE SUSPECTS Carlos Marcello, New Orleans boss, the CAMTEX prison recordings, and the Camp Street connective tissue to Oswald Ron Pataki, the much younger songwriter, possible handler, and the What's My Line hotel-key signal The CIA, Mark Lane's warning, the Dulles grudge, and the Joannides personnel file The FBI and J. Edgar Hoover, the dossier opened in 1959 and the files removed after her death Richard "Dickie" Kollmar, the widower, the matching death certificate, and the mother's accusation at the funeral H.L. Hunt, Lifeline radio, the Dallas Morning News ad, and the Murchison party LBJ, Madeleine Brown, and the Billy Sol Estes testimony Roger Stone, for completeness and a stone CONNECTED DEATHS COVERED Bill Hunter, Jim Koethe, Tom Howard, Mary Pinchot Meyer, Florence Pritchett Smith, Lee Bowers, Jack Ruby, David Ferrie, George de Mohrenschildt, and Richard Kollmar. SOURCES AND FURTHER READING Mark Shaw, The Reporter Who Knew Too Much and Abuse of Power Sara Jordan-Heintz, Who Killed Dorothy Kilgallen and The Incredible Life and Mysterious Death of Dorothy Kilgallen Lee Israel, Kilgallen (1979) Lamar Waldron, Legacy of Secrecy Roger Stone, The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ G. Robert Blakey, former HSCA chief counsel James DiEugenio, Kennedys and King, for the skeptic's read The Mary Ferrell Foundation collection and the 2025 JFK releases at archives.gov CONNECT Discord: discord.frightday.com The Frightday Society: frightdaysociety.org Email: [email protected] Bluesky / Twitter / Instagram: @frightday Phone line: 1-833-FRIGHT-9 MORE FRIGHTDAY 700+ episodes covering horror, paranormal, cryptids, true crime, and conspiracies since 2014. An Audio Wool original produced by Byron McKoy. Theme music by Yawns.

This week, Kelly is...gone, so Byron and a very special guest chat about the horrors of 2026 so far, before talking modern Creepy Kid™ flicks...and unfortunately AI, reviewing Eli Roth's "Ice Cream Man". Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a 0:00 Cold open 0:47 Cookie the Boston terrier and favorite ice cream truck treats 6:00 The year in horror so far: Stubs A-List, theater-only viewing 14:23 Speed round: Obsession, Backrooms, Hokum, Primate, We Bury the Dead, Undertone, and more 29:00 Staff Picks: The Stuff and Cooties 38:02 ICE CREAM MAN review begins 38:20 The Eli Roth question 46:50 The Horror Section and the Republic fan-investment angle 57:00 The look, the coloring, and the AI problem 1:12:00 Spoilers begin 1:29:00 Final ratings 1:33:00 Is there an organized hate campaign ABOUT THE FILM ICE CREAM MAN (2026) is a creepy-kid horror film co-written, produced, and directed by Eli Roth. A silent ice cream vendor arrives in a suburban town and hands out treats that turn the local children into homicidal maniacs. It is the first theatrical release from The Horror Section, Roth's new studio co-founded with Bloody Good Horror's Jon Schnaars. Made for roughly 5.5 million dollars, with about 10 percent of the company sold to around 2,500 fans through the investment platform Republic. TALKING POINTS Where Eli Roth sits now after Borderlands, the low-budget theatrical horror model and why five million is the sweet spot, the practical-versus-CGI blend, the teen paralysis lore hole, and the AI question: Roth's initial denial, the later walk-back to a sketches-handed-to-an-AI-company framing, and what that does to how genre fans watch low-budget movies going forward. STAFF PICKS Byron: The Stuff (1985, Larry Cohen) Jacob: Cooties (2015, Jonathan Milott and Cary Murnion) CONNECT Discord: discord.frightday.com The Frightday Society: frightdaysociety.org Email: [email protected] Bluesky / Twitter / Instagram: @frightday Phone line: 1-833-FRIGHT-9 MORE FRIGHTDAY 700+ episodes covering horror, paranormal, cryptids, true crime, and conspiracies since 2014. An Audio Wool original produced by Byron McKoy. #IceCreamMan #EliRoth #HorrorReview #Frightday #TheHorrorSection #HorrorPodcast Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original.

This week talk concert etiquette, the loss of a genre, and we roll into summer genre blockbusters discussing Curry Barker's 'Obsession'.   Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a 0:00 Cold open 0:34 The Avett Brothers, a Yes Day, and a drunk guy at the pit 7:30 RIP Sam Neill 10:00 Housekeeping: the Allentown saga and the SD card mystery 14:00 Staff Picks: The Love Witch and Willow Creek 25:00 OBSESSION review begins 29:00 Who is Curry Barker 34:00 The art department pay controversy 42:00 Spoilers begin 1:08:00 Final ratings OBSESSION (2026) is a supernatural horror film written, directed, and edited by Curry Barker, starring Inde Navarette and Cooper Tomlinson. Barker and Tomlinson are the duo behind the sketch channel That's a Bad Idea, the horror short The Chair, and the viral found footage feature Milk and Cereal. Barker is attached next to Anything But Ghosts and a Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  TALKING POINTS The comedy to horror pipeline (Jordan Peele, Zach Cregger, Jim Cummings, and now Barker), the Monkey's Paw and Treehouse of Terror origin of the wish premise, the Sally Choi art department pay conversation and Barker's response, and where OBSESSION sits in the current wave of low budget horror breakouts. This is an Audio Wool Original. #Obsession2026 #CurryBarker #HorrorReview #Frightday #IndeNavarette #MonkeysPaw #HorrorPodcast

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Danny Sheehan is one of the most consequential public interest attorneys of the last century. His cases include the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, the Karen Silkwood case, the Iran-Contra investigation, and decades of work at the intersection of government secrecy and the public's right to know. He is co-founder of the Romero Institute and the New Paradigm Institute, and a leading voice in the push for congressional UAP disclosure. Today, he stands at the center of what may be the most consequential question humanity has ever faced: the implications of a potential extraterrestrial or extradimensional non-human presence here on Earth. Having spent over 50 years litigating against government secrecy and winning, in this discussion, Danny connects the JFK assassination, the Vatican's role in the 1933 Italy UFO crash, the founding of the CIA, and the architecture of Brown Brothers Harriman to the UFO cover-up we're living through today, and lays out the concrete constitutional path to disclosure. Big thanks to Jamie Billings for helping make this interview happen, and to Danny and his wife for their time and generosity. The New Paradigm Institute, founded by acclaimed civil rights and Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan, is dedicated to advocating for the public release of information held by the government surrounding the issue of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), or what was commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). For more information, visit http://newparadigminstitute.org. Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! 00:00 Intro 00:30 Welcome and guest introduction 02:33 Reaction to WAR.gov/UFO and Pete Hegseth's framing 04:43 Danny's faith in the American people 07:06 JFK and Khrushchev's secret disarmament letters after the Cuban Missile Crisis 09:23 Why the assassination happened and its fallout 11:44 The Gulf of Tonkin lie and the collapse of trust in government 14:07 Coming to grips with UAP reality and the national security state 16:23 1968 vs. today: has Trump set disclosure back? 18:47 Why the world's religious communities may lead reform, not governments 21:05 Jesus, telepathy, and the evolution of human consciousness 23:23 Why the Vatican has withheld information, and why the Jesuit order was founded to reform the Church 25:48 Pope Pius XII and the 1933 UFO crash in Italy 28:11 The "Magenta" case and what Italy/Germany did with the craft in WWII 30:37 1945: Roswell, Aztec, White Sands, and the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 32:57 Roots of the national security state: the U.S. invasion of Russia in 1917 35:10 Brown Brothers Harriman, the Dulles brothers, and the Treaty of Versailles 37:28 George Herbert Walker, Union Banking Corp, and financing the Third Reich 39:28 Trump's $1.5 trillion nuclear modernization plan and why UFOs are watching 41:42 Who are "they"? On multiple species and the unknown galactic order 43:50 Congress's constitutional authority over classification (Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer) 46:12 A message to young people and why participation matters 48:34 How lawmakers respond to pressure, and the strategy for the 2026 midterms 53:10 Recapping the Contact in the Desert panel: Jacques Vallée, Tim Gallaudet, Eric Davis, and the question nobody would answer 57:42 What first convinced Danny this was real 59:49 Deathbed testimonies and how a trial lawyer evaluates truth 1:02:11 Danny's real concern: not fear of ET, but fear of losing ourselves to them 1:04:38 Archival fieldwork: the Army War College, Wild Bill Donovan, and the McGregor Project 1:09:24 Who to trust in the UFO community: Eric Burlison, Tim Burchett, and others 1:11:46 Hope for 2026 and beyond: decent people in Congress and a path forward 1:14:07 Closing thoughts and how to get involved You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @VISITORSshow  @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original. #UAP #UFO #Disclosure #DannySheehan #ContactInTheDesert #VISITORS #PentagonPapers #NationalSecurity