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"When you know more, you'll see more, you'll do more, and you'll be able to execute better." Read Lee's blog for more from this episode. Episode Chapters [00:53] Why the Little Details Matter [02:21] Learning High Standards in Hospitality [05:08] Disney's Commitment to Every Detail [07:18] Moving from verage to Excellence [09:11] Experience Your Business as a Customer Two burned-out hallway lights were enough to make Jody Maberry reconsider eating at a hotel restaurant. Why? Because after years of conversations with Lee Cockerell, he's learned that the little things can tell you a lot about how a business operates. In this episode, Lee shares how working at Hilton, Marriott, and Disney taught him to notice the details that shape a customer's experience. Seemingly small decisions can quickly add up, such as the way a guest is greeted to the consistency of a meal. There are a number of practical ways to look at your own business with fresh eyes. Lee suggests walking your operation and experiencing it as a customer. Once you start paying attention, you'll be surprised by how many opportunities to improve are right in front of you. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"People have experience and exposure that you don't have and could learn a lot from." Episode Chapters [01:00] Why masterminds work across industries [02:16] Solving problems through different perspectives [04:10] Creating your own problem-solving group [06:51] Learning from other people's experience [08:38] Asking for help without hesitation What could a dentist, tax accountant, hotel manager, and recent college graduate possibly have in common? As it turns out, quite a bit when it comes to solving problems. Lee Cockerell and Jody Maberry hosted their 11th Creating Magic Mastermind, where 15 people from different backgrounds came together. The days were spent sharing challenges, exchanging ideas, and helping each other find solutions. What Lee finds most interesting time and time again  is that some of the best advice comes from people who have never worked in your industry. In this conversation, Lee and Jody share what makes these gatherings so valuable. You don't need to attend a formal mastermind to experience the benefits. Sometimes all it takes is getting a few people in a room who are willing to ask for help and are open to learning from people outside of their typical circle of influence. Some of the best solutions to your business problems may come from people who work in a completely different industry.  Read the blog for more from this episode. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"Your employees and your customers know everything you need to know. But will they'll tell you?" Episode Chapters [00:01:03] Make Time for Better Conversations [00:01:51] Solving Disney's French Fry Problem [00:02:38] Bringing Frontline Employees Into the Room [00:04:10] You Said, We Did [00:05:15] Creating Trust to Speak Up [00:08:16] Ask the People Doing the Work [00:11:52] Making Employees Part of the Solution [00:13:35] Giving People a Safe Way to Speak Up What could you learn about your organization if you put the people doing the work in a room and simply listened? In this episode, hear Lee Cockerell's closing remarks at a Creating Magic Mastermind. Lee recalls how Disney brought frontline employees together for four-hour conversations without their managers in the room. Their observations uncovered problems leadership didn't know existed, from slow stoplights to operational inefficiencies. More importantly, Disney followed up through a process called "You Said, We Did," showing employees that speaking up actually led to action. The people closest to the work often know what needs to change. It's up to leaders to create enough trust for them to say it. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"You'll never know what your team knows unless you ask them." Episode Chapters [01:06] What It Means to Do Your Homework [02:50] Relying on Your Team's Expertise [05:04] Asking Why Before Making a Decision [07:38] Hiring and Developing the Right Experts [09:16] Having the Confidence to Say "I Don't Know" Leaders are expected to make decisions, but that doesn't mean they should make them alone. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, has a conversation on what it means for a leader to do their homework before deciding what comes next. Lee shares how he relied on experts throughout his career, including the team around him at Walt Disney World, to understand areas where they knew more than he did. The conversation covers asking better questions, seeking different perspectives, knowing which decisions require extra care, and having the confidence to admit when you don't know the answer. Good leadership isn't about proving you know everything. It's about using the people and resources around you to make the best decision possible. Read my blog for more from this episode. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"When you give people straightforward feedback, you're preparing them for the future." Episode Chapters [00:00:43]  What Leaders Are Asking Lee [00:04:00]  Why Being Candid Saves Time [00:06:36]  The Cost of Avoiding Difficult Conversations [00:07:33]  What Truth With Empathy Looks Like [00:10:37]  Building a Culture of Candor at Work Difficult conversations are rarely comfortable, but avoiding them can create even more problems. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, discusses why being candid and getting to the point can save time, reduce confusion, and help people improve. Lee explains why straightforward feedback should be delivered with empathy rather than anger or intimidation. He shares how this approach applies to parenting and the workplace, where employees need clear expectations and the confidence to speak openly. Leaders can make honesty and respectful communication part of their team's everyday culture. When people know where they stand and trust that feedback is intended to help them succeed, difficult conversations become opportunities for growth rather than problems to avoid. Read the blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"Are people getting better because they work with you?" Episode Chapters [00:56] What Lee Once Believed About Leadership [03:32] Learning Through Experience and Self-Awareness [05:34] Developing Management and Leadership Together [08:26] The Experiences That Changed Lee's Leadership [11:13] How to Become a Better Leader Being a strong manager does not automatically make someone a strong leader. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, and Jody Maberry explore the difference between getting things done and leading people well. Lee reflects on the years when his drive for results helped his career but also damaged relationships. He shares how better time management, delegation, self-awareness, and respect changed the way he worked with people. They also discuss why leaders need people around them who are comfortable telling them the truth and the question every leader should consider: Are people getting better because they work with you? Read the blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"What seems insignificant to you may carry tremendous meaning for your customer." Episode Chapters [00:01:27] Honoring Heritage Without Staying the Same [00:03:54] Protecting What Customers Value [00:06:23] Knowing When to Reverse a Change [00:08:18] Moving Beyond Resistance to New Ideas [00:11:01] Adapting Without Losing Your Purpose Change is necessary for any organization that wants to remain relevant, but moving forward does not mean abandoning what people already value. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, how leaders can balance heritage with changing customer expectations. From hotel amenities and technology to beloved Disney experiences, they explore why leaders need to understand the emotional connections customers have with a brand. Lee also explains the importance of listening, researching major changes, communicating the reasoning behind decisions, and being willing to change course when something does not work. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"The customer doesn't care about who did what. They want it to be right." Episode Chapters [00:01:41] Can Operations Deliver What Marketing Promises? [00:04:21] Keeping the Frontline Informed [00:06:52] Creating One Purpose Across Departments [00:08:41] Trust, Ethics, and Speaking Up [00:10:18] Preparing Operations for Big Disney Announcements [00:14:24] Meeting the Expectations You Create Every promise your organization makes creates an expectation your operation must be prepared to meet. Lee Cockerell discussed what happens behind the scenes when marketing, sales, creative teams, and operations need to work together to deliver for the customer. Lee uses his experiences as a leader at Walt Disney World to highlight the importance of communication, respecting each department's expertise, preparing frontline employees, and creating a culture where people are comfortable speaking up when they see a potential problem. Customers don't care which department made the promise. They remember whether your organization kept it. Read my blog for more from this episode. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"If somebody tells you something needs fixed and you don't do something about it, then you really lose credibility very quickly." Episode Chapters [00:01:19] When a Small Problem Becomes Serious [00:04:24] Acting Quickly and Listening to Experts [00:05:07] What D23 Teaches About Attention to Detail [00:10:28] Why Leaders Need to Walk the Operation [00:14:04] Go to the Source to Find the Facts Little problems have a way of becoming bigger when they are overlooked, but sometimes they grow even when you think you are handling them. Lee Cockerell shares the scary reaility of that lesson through a recent health scare. Jody Maberry also shares his experience at D23. Both perspectives show the importance of responding quickly when something isn't improving and noticing operational details before they affect customers. The conversation is a reminder that good leadership requires attention and follow-through. It starts with a willingness to go directly to the source when you need to understand what is really happening. Read the blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"Be the leader that steps up and narrows the odds of something happening." Episode Chapters [00:02:36] Taking a Leadership Position on Safety [00:04:53] Preparing Before a Crisis Happens [00:06:48] Why Safety Must Be the Top Priority [00:10:02] The Organizational Cost of Preventable Accidents [00:12:14] Creating a Culture Where Employees Speak Up Safety is not just a policy or a responsibility reserved for managers. It is a mindset everyone in an organization can practice. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, knows firsthand why preparation, awareness, and consistent training matter before a crisis occurs. He discusses the important role frontline employees play in identifying risks and why titles don't matter when it comes to addressing safety. Leaders can strengthen safety by creating an environment where people feel comfortable speaking up and trust that their concerns will be taken seriously. Read the blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694

"If you know something, you ought to be teaching it to others." Episode Chapters [00:01:36] When People Consider You a Role Model [00:03:23] Why Helping Others Changes You Too [00:07:20] Becoming the Person People Expect You to Be [00:09:31] What It Takes to Be a Good Role Model [00:10:00] Managing Emotions and Treating People with Respect You may be a role model without realizing it. In this episode, Lee Cockerell shares what happens when people look up to you and how that responsibility shapes the way you lead. Lee reflects on his evolution from an intimidating young manager to someone known for teaching and helping others. Being a good role model doesn't require a prestigious title. It comes from controlling your emotions and treating people with respect. Consistently showing up and making time to help others says more about a leader than a title ever will. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"Great people with a great attitude will always get noticed." Episode Chapters [00:00:58] Speaking to Disney College Program participants [00:03:16] Advice for landing your first career opportunity [00:05:18] Why Disney experience opens doors [00:08:48] The biggest concerns facing college students [00:12:39] Lee's best advice for young professionals Starting a career can feel overwhelming, especially when you're trying to land the "perfect" first job. In this episode, Lee Cockerell reflects on speaking to Disney College Program participants at Flamingo Crossings Village. He shares the advice he wishes every college student could hear, as thoughts on choosing the right company to embracing uncertainty. As Lee always says, experience, exposure, and a great attitude create opportunities that no resume alone can provide. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"The problem you see is often three steps away from the real problem." Episode Chapters [00:01:52] Why Every Leader Should Walk the Front Line [00:03:19] What You Learn by Being Present Every Day [00:08:25] Removing Obstacles for Your Team [00:08:58] Looking Beyond the Symptoms to Find the Real Problem [00:14:49] Leading Through Visibility and Consistency The best leaders don't manage from behind a desk. They spend time where the work is happening. In this episode, Lee Cockerell explains why walking the front line became one of the most valuable leadership habits of his career. He shares how being visible helped him solve problems faster, build stronger relationships with employees, and uncover the real issues affecting operations before they became bigger challenges. The most effective leaders are spending more time where their customers are served and where their employees need their support. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"If you want great customer service, you need to start by defining what great looks like." Episode Chapters [00:01:12] A Customer Service Challenge in Local Government [00:03:01] Creating Standards for Every Customer Interaction [00:05:25] How Leaders Build a Service-Focused Culture [00:08:23] Learning from Customer Frustration [00:10:08] Defining the Perfect Day for Your Customer Great customer service doesn't happen by accident. It begins with clear expectations. In this episode, Lee Cockerell answers a listener's question about improving customer service in local government and explains why every organization needs clearly defined service standards. From answering the phone to greeting customers, Lee shares how consistent expectations, daily reinforcement, and strong leadership create a culture where exceptional service becomes the norm. Read my blog for more from this episode.  Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

"Don't hire someone just to fill a position. Hire the right person for the long haul." Episode Chapters [00:01:35] Looking Beyond Retention Rates [00:03:02] Why Great Employees Always Have Options [00:07:59] How Disney Measured Turnover and Retention [00:10:42] The Real Reason Employees Leave [00:12:35] Using Data to Improve Hiring and Leadership Low turnover doesn't always mean your organization is healthy. In this episode, Lee Cockerell shares the difference between retaining employees and retaining the right employees. Great people have choices and poor leadership is often what drives turnover. When you take the time to understand who leaves and why, it can strengthen your culture, improve hiring, and build a stronger organization. Read my blog for more from this episode. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.