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On Rogue Startups we share the journey of startup founders as they're growing their businesses. We feature experts in the fields of sales, marketing, and product development to hear how they're growth hacking their productized services and SaaS products. If you're on the journey of an entrepreneur then tune and hear how we're tackling some of the same obstacles you may be facing, and how we're winning in the game of business. Listeners of Startups for the Rest of Us, My First Million, Mixergy, and Bootstrapped Web will love checking out our show.
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From Audience To Income
2026/09/29
What does it take to turn an audience into a business—and how do you do it without losing the enjoyment that got you started? This week on Rogue Startups, Craig and Colin compare notes on building creator businesses. Colin shares what he’s exploring after selling his business, including his golf content, sponsorship opportunities, and fractional roles. Craig talks about growing his YouTube channel toward 25,000 subscribers and building a second revenue stream through ads and brand partnerships.
We dig into the gap between getting views and building a business: growing an email list, creating relevant lead magnets, nurturing subscribers, and developing your own products. We also explore how to find a clear coaching niche by combining your skills and experience—and why honest feedback from your team can help you focus on the work where you add the most value.
Then we get practical about YouTube growth and podcast repurposing. We discuss strong premises, titles, thumbnails, and why the first minute deserves so much attention. We wrap up with how AI tools are changing content production and software businesses, including the opportunities—and uncomfortable questions—that come with automating work you once paid people to do. Fittingly, this episode includes an intro reflecting on using Codex and DaVinci Resolve to edit the conversation itself.
Talking points:
Building a creator business without turning a hobby into a chore.
Monetizing through sponsorships, brand deals, and fractional roles.
Why smaller audiences can still be valuable to sponsors.
Turning podcast and YouTube audiences into newsletter subscribers.
Using lead magnets, segmentation, and your own products to build more predictable revenue.
Finding a coaching niche through a distinctive combination of skills.
Asking your team where you can contribute most effectively.
Giving each piece of content a clear job: views, subscribers, or revenue.
Creating stronger YouTube hooks, titles, thumbnails, and opening minutes.
Repurposing podcast conversations into standalone videos with custom intros.
Using AI to streamline editing, copywriting, and publishing.
How changing customer needs could reshape SaaS and service businesses.
Subscribe to Rogue Startups wherever you listen, and subscribe on YouTube for future episodes. Follow Craig @thecraighewitt and Colin @colinmcgray on social media. Let us know what you thought of the AI-edited episode—and which practical AI workflows you’d like us to explore next.
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RS368: Grok Bot & Hermes
2026/09/22
AI agents are getting a lot more capable, but are they actually making work easier yet?
Craig and Colin compare their latest experiments with GrokBot, Hermes, OpenClaw, Claude Code, Codex, and other AI tools, including what works, what breaks, and where agents are genuinely reducing cognitive load.
They dig into open vs. closed systems, shared company agents, local AI, model costs, and the idea of an AI chief of staff that keeps founders focused.
Plus, Colin shares how he's using AI to overhaul a 15-year-old WordPress site, and they explore what the next generation of AI-powered websites and marketing tools might look like.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
Open vs. closed AI agents for running a business
Why Craig chose Hermes as Castos' shared company agent
The security challenge of giving AI agents real power
Why AI should reduce cognitive load, not create more work
How Colin uses AI for CRM, task management, and daily planning
Claude Code vs. Codex, Cursor, and other AI development tools
Why expensive AI models aren't always the best choice
The case for running AI locally or privately
How cheap AI access encourages founders to experiment
Can an AI chief of staff actually keep you focused?
Using AI to overhaul a 15-year-old content site
How tiny AI-built tools could replace traditional lead magnets
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Intro and topic setup: bots and agents(00:01:23) - Open vs closed agent platforms(00:03:35) - Why choosing Hermes for a shared team agent(00:07:07) - Permissioning and security challenges with Hermes(00:09:08) - Vision for AI teammates across a company(00:10:44) - Personal use: Grokbot vs Claude code workflows(00:12:53) - CRM, task management, and cognitive load reduction(00:16:09) - Mobile workflows, Notion, and GitHub syncing(00:19:06) - App preferences: Claude vs Codex vs Cursor vs Antigravity(00:22:00) - Right-sizing models and cost discipline(00:22:19) - Golf video workflow and downgrading models to save cost(00:25:33) - Local and private AI compute considerations(00:29:35) - Enterprise API costs, subsidies, and sovereignty concerns(00:32:35) - Value of experimentation under usage limits(00:33:56) - Chief of staff model and multi-agent orchestration(00:37:59) - Chief of staff for managing priorities and stale projects(00:41:25) - Old-school business plans teaser(00:42:01) - Renovating lawns4u.com with AI agents(00:45:00) - WordPress vs modern stacks (Astro, Next.js) discussion(00:47:33) - Building tools and lead magnets beyond WordPress(00:50:15) - Wrap up and future topics
RS367: How to Hire in the AI Era
2026/09/15
Do you need a team to build a successful company these days? On this episode of Rogue Startups, host Craig Hewitt (Castos) and co-host Colin Gray (Alitu and The Podcast Host) tackle one of the biggest questions facing founders today: how do you hire in the age of AI agents?
Craig and Colin chat about what an "ideal" team looks like, which roles are still worth hiring for, and which ones AI agents can take over (to save more important tasks for humans). They dig into how their own hiring processes have changed and evolved, from async video interviews to paid work samples and screen-recorded tasks. They also explain why a candidate's CV matters far less than watching them think through a problem.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
Why you might still want a team, even if you don't need one
What a minimal modern software team looks like
What founders should never fully hand off
How AI agents are changing customer research
The best first hires for growth and partnerships
Why every hire should be an AI power user
How to spot great candidates beyond the CV
Using paid work samples and screen recordings in hiring
The hidden costs and risks of hiring overseas
Why EORs and Merchant of Record services can simplify global hiring and sales
When to hire a human vs. build an AI agent
The trade-offs of staying solo with AI vs. building a team
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
RS366: When (and how) To Pick a Co-Founder
2026/09/08
Should you build your next company alone, or find a co-founder?
It's a question that has no easy answer, and AI is making it even more complicated. If one person can now build, market, and operate far more of a business with the help of AI, does having a co-founder still make sense?
Today, Craig and co-host Colin Gray dig into the realities of being a solo founder versus building a company with a partner. They talk about the benefits of having another person to share the load, challenge your thinking, keep you accountable, and be completely honest about the business - along with the risks that come with tying yourself to someone for years.
If you're a solo founder wondering whether you're missing something by going it alone (or maybe you're considering bringing someone into your business), this episode is for you.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
Why having a co-founder can make the entrepreneurial journey dramatically less lonely
How AI is changing the traditional argument for having a co-founder
Why another brain in the business may be more valuable than another specific skill set
The role of accountability, honest feedback, and staying focused
What to consider before choosing a business partner
Why personality, communication style, and problem-solving approach matter so much
The importance of agreeing on what you actually want from the business
How equity splits can create problems when partners join at different stages
Options vs. profit sharing as ways to reward employees
How to build a leadership team that can eventually operate without the founder
The advantages of speed, flexibility, and control as a solo founder
Why AI may be making solo-founded companies more viable than ever
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/
Sam Paar blog post: https://joinhampton.com/blog/the-template-that-made-sure-my-co-founder-and-i-were-perfect-partners
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Rogue Startups: The Search for a Co-Founder(00:00:50) - Getting back in the groove of running(00:03:04) - Talking Business With My Partners(00:04:35) - Does a Co-Founder Need a Partnership in AI?(00:09:00) - Craig Menear: Coaching With Single Founders(00:11:49) - What is a Co-Founder's Decision on Partnering?(00:13:15) - What kind of areas of consideration did I miss besides equity pay,(00:17:46) - Ideas for a Good Co-Founder Relationship(00:19:43) - Have You Ever Shared Options With Your Team?(00:21:44) - How was the, I don't know, the vibe with the(00:23:00) - Is Having a Co-Founder Better Than Being a Solo Founder(00:27:00) - What's The Big Benefit of Starting a Company Solo?(00:30:01) - Does the Company Have a Co-founder Type Role?(00:34:21) - Good Hires vs. Bad Hires(00:36:02) - I love working with a team
RS365: Marketing that Actually Works Today
2026/09/01
What happens to marketing when AI can create almost unlimited content, build software in days, and make it easier than ever for anyone to compete?
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt and co-host Colin Gray dig into what actually works in marketing today. They explore founder-led marketing, “personal brands” (and why that term makes Craig cringe), content strategy, YouTube, newsletters, podcasts, and the growing importance of creating content that carries a real human voice.
Craig and Colin debate whether blogging still matters, why YouTube may be the strongest starting point for a new brand, and why podcasts are better at building trust than converting cold audiences. They also discuss the marketing FOMO that causes founders to chase every new platform, the value of in-person events, and how to build a content flywheel where one conversation can become videos, newsletters, blog posts, and social content.
The conversation ultimately comes back to a simple question: when AI can produce endless content, what makes yours worth paying attention to?
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
Why the best marketing ultimately has to create a return for the customer
How founders can avoid getting trapped by marketing FOMO
Why founder-led marketing may matter more as AI creates more faceless businesses
How to figure out what makes you genuinely different
Why YouTube may be the best starting point for building a modern personal brand
Whether blogging and SEO still have a place in an AI-generated content world
Why real stories, experiences, and opinions can make content stand out from AI-generated material
How to turn one podcast conversation into a complete content ecosystem
Why podcasts are better at building trust than converting cold audiences
The underrated marketing power of in-person events and relationships
How to build a YouTube and newsletter flywheel
Why paid advertising could become more accessible through AI-powered tools
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - The Podcast Is Dead(00:00:42) - Rogue Startups: More Money, Stupid(00:02:31) - Podcast Marketing: The Business of Podcasting(00:07:12) - Likely More Personal Brand than Social Marketing(00:09:46) - Developing a Personal Brand(00:13:52) - How to build a personal brand on a platform(00:17:22) - How to Build a Modern Business on the Web(00:23:34) - How Long Form Writing Is Made(00:24:25) - How to Promote Your Podcast and YouTube Videos(00:30:32) - milo on 'Physics'(00:30:50) - How to Promote your YouTube Videos on a Podcast?(00:37:08) - In the World of In-Person Events(00:38:35) - How to Market Your Podcast at Events(00:41:24) - Golf Star on His Next Thing(00:41:41) - How to Build a YouTube Channel and a Podcast(00:45:28) - What's Your First Channel for AI?(00:47:16) - Paid Advertising: The Future of AI(00:48:40) - Episode 1
RS364: Think Less, Do More
2026/08/25
AI has made building software dramatically easier. But if everyone can build a product, what happens to SaaS?
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt is joined by co-host Colin Gray for a wide-ranging conversation about what they're building, how AI is changing their businesses, and why the biggest challenge for SaaS founders may no longer be writing the code. Colin and Craig dig into AI-assisted development, content repurposing, YouTube strategy, AI agents, memory and context, and the increasingly blurry line between building a product and simply building something for yourself.
The conversation gets especially interesting as they compare tools like Cursor, Claude, Codex, Grok, OpenClaw, and Hermes, and discuss the idea of having an AI "boss" that can remember your priorities, surface old ideas, manage your tasks, and push information to you instead of making you constantly hunt for it.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
How AI is making software dramatically easier to build - and why that creates a new challenge for SaaS founders
Why AI tools become much more powerful when they're customized to your specific workflows
Is "anyone can build this" becoming a real problem for SaaS companies?
Why the hardest part of building software may no longer be writing the code
The biggest risk of AI-built software: building something nobody actually wants
How Craig and Colin are using AI agents to reduce cognitive load and manage their work
Why your AI assistant may need access to your entire digital life to be genuinely useful
Turning conversations and existing content into a repeatable publishing workflow
Why sometimes a solo founder just needs an AI boss
Why more features aren't always the answer for a growing SaaS business
What should an AI assistant actually remember about you?
How AI agents could change the way founders work, prioritize, and make decisions
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions: https://castos.com/productions/
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - What's the Risk of Building a SaaS in Claude Code(00:00:28) - Rogue Startups: Updates on AI(00:05:07) - How to Build a Podcast on YouTube(00:10:12) - How to hire a non-technical developer(00:15:19) - Cursor Cloud vs. Grokbot: What's The Difference(00:19:46) - Grokbot and OpenCluster: The One Place for Everything(00:25:00) - How Do You Keep Yourself Organized?(00:30:50) - Working on a 6 week plan(00:34:27) - Pushing the pace of product development(00:36:58) - Ideas on Grokbot: The Knowledge Librarian(00:42:47) - Your Bots: Do Your Job(00:43:29) - How to Organize Your Brain in 2019(00:45:11) - OpenClaw vs. Codex: Which is better?(00:47:34) - Colin Gray on Social Media
RS363: Why Talking to AI About Your Business Is Dangerous
2026/08/18
While we weren’t looking, AI has quietly embedded itself into the coaching world. Today Craig sits down with new cohost Colin Gray, founder of Alitu and The Podcast Host, to unpack the current state of the industry.
They dig into why coaching is shifting from information delivery to accountability and thinking-partner work, how Colin built an AI system using Granola transcripts to track patterns across coaching clients and surface his own best ideas for content, and whether "everyone is a media company" still holds up for B2B, legal, and SaaS businesses that swear they're different.
It's a candid, practical conversation about personal brand versus business brand, one-on-one versus group coaching, and using tools like Claude not to get answers but to get better questions - a must-listen for coaches, consultants, and any solo founder trying to figure out where human expertise still beats a chatbot.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
AI can't coach you. It can only answer you.
The "how-to" business is dying, and courses are the first casualty.
Why one podcaster treats Claude like a co-founder (and where that backfires).
Coach or mentor? The real spectrum nobody talks about.
Selling a podcast editing app for millions, then figuring out what's next.
"Personal brand" is a dirty word. Here's the better way to think about it.
The one B2B industry everyone assumes content can't touch (it can).
Coaching's new job: not answers, accountability.
One-on-one vs. group coaching: which one actually makes people feel heard.
Turning client call transcripts into an AI memory system that spots patterns humans miss.
Mining your own coaching sessions to find your most original ideas.
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Produced by Castos Productions
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - A Coach's Role in Your Business(00:00:32) - Colin Gray Training for His First Half Marathon(00:02:35) - Meet Alitu(00:04:55) - Craig on His Exit(00:05:28) - Interviewing Silicon Valley's Rich People(00:05:57) - AI for Coaching and Business(00:09:38) - What Kind of Coaches Should You Work With?(00:11:35) - How to grow a creator business in 2019(00:13:31) - Are Businesses Ready to Be a Media Company?(00:16:01) - Podcasting: The Best Use Case for Content(00:16:40) - Colin Gray on His Personal Brand(00:19:29) - Group Coaching vs One-on-One(00:23:30) - How AI is helping me with my coaching(00:28:07) - The AI Product Hype Cycle
RS362: Hidden Multipliers with Jason Cohen
2026/08/11
What happens when AI changes the rules of building a software company? According to Jason Cohen, the answer isn't to predict the future. It's to build around things that remain valuable no matter how technology changes.
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt talks with Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear and author of Hidden Multipliers, about growth, strategy, positioning, and building durable businesses in an age of AI. Jason explains why founders should focus on the transformation customers actually want instead of simply adding AI to their products, why repositioning a product can dramatically increase its value, and how to identify the special combination of strengths, customers, and opportunities where your business can win.
Craig and Jason also dig into what kinds of jobs AI is likely to replace, why human creativity and personality remain incredibly valuable, how Jason develops the ideas behind his writing, and why copying someone else's successful framework rarely works without adapting it to your own company culture.
Whether you're building a bootstrapped SaaS company, leading a growing startup, or trying to figure out where your business fits in an AI-driven world, this conversation is full of practical ways to think more clearly about strategy, growth, and competitive advantage.
Highlights from Craig and Jason’s conversation:
How to make strategic decisions in an uncertain market
What customers will still value in the age of AI
Why AI should solve customer problems rather than simply be added to products
How positioning can dramatically increase a product's value
Why senior developers benefit more from AI than junior developers
What chess teaches us about AI and human creativity
Why human personalities still matter in content and marketing
How Jason Cohen developed the ideas behind Hidden Multipliers
Why copying successful business frameworks often fails
How founders can find their own strategic advantage
The right and wrong ways to use metrics
What AI means for the future of SaaS
Resources and Links from This Episode:
AI Skills which facilitate ideas from the book and Jason’s articles
https://longform.asmartbear.com/
Jason on X: https://x.com/asmartbear
hiddenmultipliers.com
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on X: https://twitter.com/TheCraigHewitt
Craig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Will Jobs Get Automated?(00:00:37) - Interviewing Jason Cohen on Growth(00:01:41) - The Making of the Smart Beer Live Podcast(00:06:48) - How to Figure Out the Most Important Things in the Business(00:10:15) - Re-positioning Your Business Software(00:11:45) - Costs of AdWords and AI(00:17:23) - "I Never Want to Watch a Computer"(00:20:16) - Behind the Hidden multipliers: How to Grow a Business(00:24:00) - Your Thoughts on Writing(00:29:51) - Reasons for a Startup Framework Fit(00:34:09) - The Common Truth of Metrics(00:37:18) - Do You Need Metrics in Your Company?(00:40:35) - Top 5 Things AI Will Affect in 2030(00:45:22) - Do Jobs Get Replaced by AI?(00:47:25) - No Unique Advantage?(00:49:51) - Book Review
RS361: Lessons Learned Selling A Business
2026/08/04
Selling a business isn't just about timing the market. It's about knowing yourself.
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt sits down with Colin Gray, founder of Alitu and The Podcast Host, to discuss what it's really like to sell a SaaS company after 15 years. Colin shares why he decided to exit, how founders should think about timing a sale, the emotional side of letting go of a business, and why "stair-stepping" through multiple businesses may be a smarter path than chasing a single life-changing exit. They also explore how AI is reshaping SaaS, content marketing, and YouTube, as well as what comes next after selling a company you've spent years building.
Whether you're thinking about selling a business someday or simply trying to build one that lasts, this conversation is packed with honest advice from two experienced bootstrapped founders.
Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
How to know when it's time to sell your business
The stair-step approach to building wealth
Founder burnout and losing passion for your company
The realities of SaaS valuations today
Why building an audience before software matters
AI's impact on SaaS and content marketing
Why YouTube is still one of the best marketing platforms
Life after selling a startup
Bootstrapping vs. venture-backed growth
Lessons from two experienced SaaS founders
Resources and Links from This Episode
The Podcast Host: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/
Colin on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinmcgray?originalSubdomain=uk
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - How to Get Out of Debt in Retirement(00:01:33) - A Chat With Colin on Rogue Startups(00:02:54) - When Should You Sell Your Business?(00:09:18) - Ideas for Buying or Selling Our Company(00:14:57) - Allevi On Falling Out Of Love With the Business(00:16:56) - How to Balance Working and Living(00:21:12) - Getting a Job in the Age of AI(00:23:01) - Ex-CEO on His Exit(00:27:08) - Podcasting: The SaaS Jobs Apocalypse(00:29:23) - SaaS and Content: The Future of Both(00:36:43) - How to Keep Your YouTube Channel Updated(00:39:47) - Under Threat: Podcasts and Video(00:41:21) - Alitu Expands Into Paid Acquisitions(00:43:26) - Exclusives: Colin's Exit(00:44:29) - Co-Hosting: Solo or Team?
RS360: Kill the Hippo
2026/07/29
If you're building a SaaS company, one of the hardest questions you'll face isn't how to build a product. It's what to build next.
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig Hewitt talks with Steve McLeod, founder of Feature Upvote and author of Kill the Hippo, about product strategy, customer research, and why the loudest customer isn't always the one you should listen to. Steve shares lessons from interviewing successful bootstrapped SaaS founders, explains why talking directly with customers beats relying on surveys and feature voting alone, and discusses how companies can avoid building the wrong features.
Craig and Steve also explore Steve's journey writing Kill the Hippo, Feature Upvote's successful pivot into the gaming industry, the realities of running a mature SaaS business, and how AI is changing product development and customer acquisition. They close with an honest conversation about the future of bootstrapped SaaS and why today's founders face a very different landscape than they did just a decade ago.
Whether you're launching your first startup or leading an established software company, this episode is full of practical advice on product management, customer feedback, ideal customer profiles (ICP), founder decision-making, and sustainable SaaS growth.
In this episode:
00:00 Why Building the Right Product Matters
01:43 Why Steve Wrote Kill the Hippo
03:09 The Pivot That Changed Feature Upvote
04:36 Why the Most Popular Feature Is Usually Wrong
06:26 Talk to Customers, Not Just Surveys
08:19 Finding Your Real Ideal Customer
13:05 How Kill the Hippo Came Together
16:59 Why Steve Wanted to Write a Book
19:04 The Reality of Being a Solo Founder
21:06 Are Product Prioritization Frameworks Worth It?
23:54 Hiring People Who Think Like Your Customers
27:45 Building for Future Customers Without Losing Today's
29:24 Product Strategy for Mature SaaS Companies
31:26 Avoiding the "Abandoned Product" Trap
34:00 How Mature SaaS Teams Ship New Features
36:19 Build Features That Make Customers Say "Wow"
38:20 Is SaaS Really Dead?
42:35 The Golden Age of Bootstrapped SaaS
Resources and Links:
- Feature Upvote: https://featureupvote.com/
- Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-mcleod-fuv/
- Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
- Email me: [email protected]
- Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
- Craig on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66
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Chapters
(00:00:00) - Knowing What Product to Build in the SaaS Age(00:01:45) - Writing a Book About Pivoting(00:04:14) - How to Decide What to Build Next(00:10:27) - Have You Changed Your ICP?(00:12:37) - Writing The Bootstrap Book(00:16:26) - What are you hoping the book does for you?(00:18:08) - In the Elevator With a Co-founder(00:23:10) - The Importance of Talking to Customers(00:27:54) - How Do You Keep Your Product From Getting Stuck?(00:30:04) - A Design for Less Annoying CRM(00:32:24) - How To Evolve a Matured Product(00:34:47) - The Need for a 'Wow'(00:36:25) - SaaS and the future of podcast(00:40:56) - Bootstrapped SaaS: The Golden Age is Over(00:42:40) - Kill the Hippo
Huge Work (and life) Updates
2026/07/21
After an almost 5 month break from the podcast, I'm Back!
In this episode I talk through updates with me, Castos, my coaching business, and where the podcast is headed into the future. Spoiler alert...i'm getting a new cohost.
Connect on the socials:
x.com/thecraighewitt
instagram.com/thecraighewitt
https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-hewitt-78386a66/
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Rogue Startups: A Year in the Life(00:00:45) - Q&A: The Future of Podcasting(00:06:10) - Coaching Isn't Dead(00:10:01) - What Would You Do If You Could Do Whatever You Want To Do
RS358: Your Design Sucks
2026/03/18
In this episode, Craig sits down with Francois Brill, Head of Product at Castos and longtime design collaborator, for an honest and entertaining conversation about what it really takes to build great-looking products in the age of AI. Using Outlier as a live case study, Francois walks through the marketing site and product UX in real time, calling out the small but costly design mistakes that make AI-built tools look generic. From embarrassing mismatched button styles to cognitive overload on ideation pages, this episode is a must-listen for anyone vibe-coding their next SaaS app and wondering why it just does not feel polished.
Highlights from Craig and Francois’ conversation:
AI-generated design is the new "tell" that your product was built without a designer
Picking one mode, light or dark, is almost always better than trying to do both
Rounded inputs paired with square buttons is one of the most common and fixable design mistakes
Color should guide user action, not decorate the interface
UX is how something works; UI is what it looks like, and they require different thinking
Cognitive overload kills conversion, especially on feature-rich pages like ideation tools
A Design MD file can teach AI your brand system so every output stays consistent
Code is cheap now, so the value has shifted to vision, taste, and design thinking
Building fast and iterating beats trying to get it perfect the first time
If everyone can prompt the same thing, standing out requires taste and a real system
Resources and Links from This Episode:
Clearly Design: https://www.clearly.design/
Francois on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fbrill/
Outlier: https://outlier.so/
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
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Chapters
(00:00:00) - Francois Brill on Design & UX(00:01:26) - How To Design SaaS Companies' User Experience ((00:04:04) - Light and Dark(00:07:08) - Mixed Bag: Round vs. Square On Mobile(00:09:24) - Kanban 2.8: Color(00:13:19) - Taste Design: The Future of AI(00:16:08) - Onboarding to YouTube(00:20:52) - Ideas in the Pipeline(00:27:25) - Ideation: A Chatbot Interface(00:33:56) - How to Build a Ui with a Human Interface(00:38:48) - Design Systems: The Need for Verification(00:40:45) - How To Build a Design System?(00:49:08) - Top AI Tooling Tips(00:53:08) - A Taste of Hard Work
RS357: I Got Hacked
2026/03/11
This week on the Rogue Startups, Craig gets roasted. He brought in experienced software engineer Brandon Hancock after building the AI-powered SaaS app Outlier largely through “vibe coding,” so Brandon could audit the entire codebase live during the episode. The result? An honest but useful breakdown of what happens when non-technical founders ship fast with AI tools.
Brandon digs into real security risks, common architecture mistakes, and the best practices every founder should follow when building AI-driven products. If you’re launching SaaS with tools like Next.js, Supabase, and Claude, or simply adding AI features to your existing product, this episode offers practical lessons on building faster without accidentally breaking everything.
Check the episode out on YouTube to see Brandon dig through Craig’s code onscreen.
Highlights from Craig and Brandon’s conversation:
What “vibe coding” looks like when building a real production startup
How a single exposed Supabase key can create major security risks
Why row-level security is critical for protecting user data
Using AI to audit code and uncover vulnerabilities in minutes
Simple fixes that dramatically improve SaaS security
Why many AI code review tools miss critical issues
The danger of exposing backend clients in frontend code
How server actions can replace many API endpoints
Best practices for managing database migrations with Drizzle ORM
Why staging environments save founders from catastrophic production mistakes
The difference between moving fast and building responsibly
How to structure AI documentation for better development workflows
Using task templates to teach AI your coding standards
Practical lessons for founders building SaaS products with AI tools
Resources and Links from This Episode
Shipkit.ai: https://www.shipkit.ai/
Brandon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hancock-ai
Brandon’s website: https://brandonhancock.io/
Brandon on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@aiwithbrandon
Rogue Startups on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@roguestartups
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
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Chapters
(00:00:00) - Getting Roasted: AI Security Best Practices(00:01:42) - What I Learned From Working On EMS Soap(00:04:40) - loading pandas in C#(00:05:04) - How to hack a Supabase client with a single code(00:06:51) - How to compromise a C# project with a phishing(00:10:17) - Code Reviewing in the Cloud(00:15:10) - Migration workflow in C#(00:20:45) - Creating a second branch in the Supabase project(00:23:31) - Choosing the right API for your app(00:25:59) - Brandon: How do we structure AI Development?(00:32:35) - Seeking Compound Engineering in the Code(00:33:41) - How to max out Claude Code in 2019(00:38:38) - Building a Software Startup With Claude Code(00:44:04) - Shipkit AI Announcement
RS356: When to Pivot, When to Push w/ Jesse Hanley
2026/03/04
In this episode of Rogue Startups, Craig sits down with Jesse Hanley, founder of Bento, for a wide-ranging conversation about building and growing SaaS businesses in the age of AI. From vibe coding and AI-assisted development workflows to product strategy, business ceilings, and the existential shifts happening across the tech landscape, Jesse and Sandy share candid insights from their own experiences as founders navigating a rapidly changing environment. If you're a bootstrapped founder, indie hacker, or SaaS entrepreneur trying to figure out how to stay relevant and move fast, this one's for you.
Highlights from Craig and Jesse’s conversation:
Testing and QA are still the unglamorous bottleneck nobody talks about enough
The founders who stay close to the code sleep better at night
Opus 4.5 in Cursor is the closest thing to having a full dev team on speed dial
Build your foundation like a brick house, and everything else can be Play-Doh™
AI is making founders fall back in love with parts of their business they used to dread
Shopify can now build custom apps on demand, and that should make plugin developers nervous
If your whole product is basically one feature, it might be time to rethink things
Sometimes the ceiling you're hitting is the category, not your effort
The best side projects either pay for themselves immediately or swing for the fences
Building through AI disruption takes the same stubborn optimism it took to survive COVID
Resources and Links from This Episode
Jesse Hanley: https://jessehanley.com/
Connect with Jesse on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessehanley/
Bento: https://bentonow.com/
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
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Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Feel free to reach out to me:
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LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - Testing New Ideas(00:00:54) - Bento on Testing in AI Software(00:09:18) - How to Start a Startup: Plan Your Startup's Future(00:11:06) - Flows: Things are moving fast(00:16:18) - Reveal: Learning To Optimize Your Website With Nano Banana(00:21:45) - "It'll be hard to get a job in 2021."(00:22:12) - How's your team adapting to the AI revolution?(00:24:16) - Podcaster on the Future of Podcasting(00:27:23) - Shopify's AI Announcement(00:34:43) - Bento CEO on His Strategic Plan(00:38:12) - Gemini 3.8: Using AI to Make Better Design(00:43:08) - Cursor: We're Not Using a CMS(00:48:51) - What is the bottleneck in the WordPress vs. Blog?(00:50:57) - Have You Got Time for Side Projects?(00:54:34) - Custos vs. Riverside: How Big Is the Podcast Market(00:59:38) - How Castos is changing the way we edit videos(01:01:15) - Bob Dylan on His New Direction
RS355: Code Velocity and the Future of SaaS
2026/02/25
What does it mean to be a SaaS founder in a world where AI can build features faster than we ever could? In this conversation, Craig sits down with Arvid Kahl to unpack the shifting reality of software, competition, and the craft of SaaS in 2026. They talk about code velocity, discernment, marketing in an AI-saturated world, and why SaaS is not dead, even as the software part becomes commoditized. Listen in to find out what actually matters these days, if you want to build something that lasts.
Highlights from Craig and Arvid’s conversation:
AI is shifting the founder’s role from building to judging quality and making decisions
Code velocity now matters more than perfect architecture for most SaaS products
Replacing junior developers entirely with AI risks creating a future talent gap
Your real competition increasingly includes general AI tools, not just other SaaS companies
AI has leveled the marketing baseline, making differentiation and brand more important than ever
Standing out requires taste, point of view, and clear positioning, not just tactics
Acquiring legacy SaaS and refactoring with AI could be a major opportunity
The service part of SaaS still matters most, because AI generates products but not businesses
Resources and Links from This Episode
Podscan: https://podscan.fm/
Castos Free Tools: castos.com/tools
Email me: [email protected]
Find me on Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
If you feel like Rogue Startups has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes.
Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Feel free to reach out to me:
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LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt
Email: [email protected]
Chapters
(00:00:00) - What Does It Mean to Be a SaaS Founder in 20(00:01:04) - What's the Next 3 or 4 Steps in Your Career?(00:10:01) - Building an AI-ready database in minutes(00:17:18) - Code Review: The Need for Continuous Development(00:21:09) - SaaS vs AI: Buy, Integrate, Arbitrage(00:23:45) - Are We Ready for AI in Medical Applications?(00:25:32) - Bill Gates on AI and Growth(00:30:31) - Marketing: The Challenge of Standing Out(00:34:42) - SaaS as a Service(00:38:52) - Agents and the agentic loop(00:42:00) - Will Agents Be Autonomous in the Future?(00:47:19) - Will Salesforce Give Marketing a Full API Access?(00:48:39) - Agile Coding: How to Keep Up with Everything(00:55:24) - An Optimistic View of the Market
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