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Date created
2015/01/12
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2026/10/08
Average duration
89 min.
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With 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.
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588 - Jay Moeller: Life and Music in Austin, TX, "I just wanna be the one guy that sounds like Jay Moeller"
2026/10/08
Jay Moeller has spent his entire adult life and career in Austin Texas where he has played with a long list of artists and acts from covers at the dive bar to names with international reach. He has also begun to lead his own projects both live and in the studio.
In this episode, Jay talks about:
Feeling like he’s in “a race against time”
Bringing something essentially “him” to every project
Making the case for what he does best in recording sessions
Coming up on the Austin scene which was centered around Antone’s
How timekeeping and groove should be the responsibility of everyone in the band
The double-edged sword of old school players with old school thinkin
The many things that can define Texas shuffle
How to decide which weaknesses to strengthen
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587 - Ben Lecourt: From France to LA, Touring with Cat Power, Performing with Legends
2026/10/01
A native of France, Ben Lecourt spent his childhood studying percussion with George Van Gucht of the Percussion Of Strasbourg while at conservatory in the south of France. During this time, Ben simultaneously began his discovery of bebop through private studies with various drum teachers. Spending a decade based in Paris, Ben honed his playing nightly in jazz clubs and festivals such as Montreux Jazz.
He moved to LA late 2011 where he studied music production at UCLA Extension, and dove into the local music scene.
He has since been busy recording with the likes of Linda Perry, Mark Stoermer from The Killers, Cat Power, Rocco DeLuca as well as playing live with Denny Laine from Wings and The Moody Blues, The Wallflowers, Aaron Lee Tasjan, Nick Waterhouse, Roger Manning Jr amongst others.
He is currently on tour with Cat Power celebrating the 20th anniversary of the album “The Greatest”.
When not on the road, he can be found in his home studio, Rancho Magnolia.
In this episode, Ben talks about:
How to be a good tour-mate
Growing up in the south-east of France
Moving from France to Los Angeles, US
Building new friendships and relationships in a new place
Discovering American Jazz while growing up in France
Touring with Cat Power
Preparing for a tour
Performing with legends
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586 - Jason Smay pt. 2: Pursuing the Right Opportunities for the Right Reasons
2026/09/24
Jason Smay has been in Nashville for a decade and plays with his son, McKinley James. Prior to that, he was based in Rochester, NY and toured with JD McPherson, Los Strait Jackets, and others. He and McKinley are also part of the Nashville group The Tiger Beats with Patrick Sweany and Ted Pecchio.
In this episode, Jason talks about:
Thinking about longevity in terms of exercise and overall health
His roots drumming heroes
Forming a relationship as young drummer with fellow Rochester native Steve Gadd
Using one set of sounds for a whole record
Why he loves producers who were/are also drummers
His disposition toward the growing role of tech in all music
Learning how to pursue the right opportunities for the right reasons
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585 - Christopher Williams: Drumming for Accept, Life Between Tours, Financial Realities in the Metal World
2026/09/13
Christopher Williams was born to be a drummer. Throughout high school, Williams drummed for several rock, jazz, metal, funk and blues groups, as well as the Greenville South Carolina youth orchestra. In 2004 he toured the United States as a member of the Carolina Gold Drum & Bugle corps. Christopher won a gold medal during the annual individual & ensemble competition and retained the title until 2006. Since 2008 he has been based in Nashville, Tennessee where he has built a strong reputation within the music community.
During his school years, Williams was able to study with Paul Riddle of the Marshall Tucker band, Dr. Gary Robinson, Brian Tinkle of the cavaliers drum & bugle corps, Ed Shaughnessy, Jim Chapin, and Elvin Jones.
During April of 2015 it was announced that Christopher would join the legendary heavy metal band Accept. Since then the group has played hundreds of shows in more than fifty countries around the world. Christopher has received global media attention, being featured in magazines and press since joining the band. When possible he performs, records, and tours with other artists & bands in a variety of genres.
Some of the artists/groups he has worked with include: Gene Simmons Ace, Frehley, Accept, Andrew W.K,. Rex Brown, Derek St Holmes, John Corabi, Kaato, Mick Mars, Blackfoot, Lee Greenwood, Kid Rock, Peter Stroud, Her, A Thousand Horses, members of: Parliament Funkadelic, the Rolling Stones, Kiss, Slaughter, Cinderella, David Bowie, Rod Stewart, Alice Cooper, Steppenwolf.
In this episode, Christopher talks about:
The origins of his woodworking skills
Managing life with a newborn son
Drumming for the legendary band Accept
How Christopher plans for recordings
The importance of being able to read & write notation
Inspiring experiences early in life
How he spends his time between tours
The financial realities of touring with a legendary band
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584 - Jason Smay pt. 1
2026/09/10
Jason Smay has been in Nashville for a decade and plays with his son, McKinley James. Prior to that, he was based in Rochester, NY and toured with JD McPherson, Los Strait Jackets, and others. He and McKinley are also part of the Nashville group The Tiger Beats with Patrick Sweany and Ted Pecchio.
In this episode, Jason talks about:
Bringing his son McKinley James up on the Rochester scene
Touring with JD McPherson from 2011 to 2020
Moving to Nashville because it was best for McKinley’s career
Entering the Nashville scene without expectations
Committing to what you love long enough for opportunities to come to you, rather than chasing trends or money gigs
How people have the power to make or break your experience, regardless of the music and the money
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583 - Kevin Watkins: K-Wat Drum Co., Building The Go To Snare, The Power of Relationships
2026/09/03
Growing up in the church among talented and influential mentors, Kevin Watkins developed into a professional drummer and musician. Opportunities for recording, touring and even singing were readily available. His longest gig was with Country Gospel band, Brush Arbor. Although they were based in SoCal, they spent a lot of time in Nashville, recording and doing TV.
Later in life, Kevin’s drumming took a bit of a back seat to audio engineer and production work. He quickly became passionate about the other side of the glass in part because of his experiences as a player.
Even though live FOH and production opportunities kept him busy, drums always remained in focus. In early 2023, Kevin made it official and launched K-Wat Drum Co.
In this episode, Kevin talks about:
How he started building and restoring drums
What makes a “go to” snare drum
Creating a drum with character
The reasoning behind the names of his snares
The origin story of K-Wat drums
Growing up playing in church
Learning from Dave Williamson, Scott Williamson’s father
His long time affiliation with the Christian band Brush Arbor
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582 - Sarah Hagan: Her New Role with Gibraltar and Rogers, Harnessing Her People-Loving Super Power, What's Important in Social Media
2026/08/27
Sarah has been behind the scenes in the drum industry for decades, from her longtime role at Zildjian to her podcast Sarah Hagan Backstage to founding and running the Royal Cymbal company with Paul Francis. Most recently, she stepped into her newest role as director of artist relations for both Gibraltar Hardware and Rogers Drums.
In this episode, Sarah talks about:
Her new gig with Rogers and Gibraltar and some of the flagship products from both companies
How she got into the business side of drums as a college intern
Harnessing her superpower of connecting with people and connecting people with each other
The experience of hosting a podcast
The Royal Cymbals venture, and what she learned from being a hands-on fabricator of cymbals
How cymbal trends may be returning to “cymbal-sounding cymbals”
Her perspective and advice about the social media landscape
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581 - Rick Dior: Studying with Joe Morello, Building a Useful YouTube pg, Performing with the Charlotte Symphony Orchestra
2026/08/20
Born in Brooklyn, New York Rick Dior began his professional music career at the age of thirteen, freelancing in and around the metropolitan area in various small ensembles, orchestras and theater productions. He is a graduate of the Manhattan School of Music where he studied with timpanist Fred Hinger and jazz composer Bob Mintzer. He also studied extensively with famed jazz drummer Joe Morello. Rick has performed as a percussionist with a variety of superb artists in many musical genres including James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Al Jarreau, Roberta Flack, Martina McBride, BeBe and CeCe Winans, Linda Rondstadt, Glen Campbell, Bobby McFerrin, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Randy Newman, and Marvin Hamlisch. He has added his drum set talents to performances with many great jazz artists including Marvin Stamm, Bill Watrous, Rich Perry, Harold Danko, Clark Terry, Red Rodney, Chris Potter, Lionel Hampton and Russell Malone. Rick also has an extensive orchestral percussion background and has performed as principal percussionist, section percussionist and timpanist with the Charlotte Symphony Orchestra, Charlotte Ballet and Opera Carolina since 1990. As a first-call theater percussionist and drummer in Charlotte NC, Rick has performed in dozens of Broadway show tours. They include Chorus Line, Jesus Christ Superstar, Wicked, The Producers, Young Frankenstein, Spamalot, Hairspray, South Pacific, West Side Story, 9 to 5, Mary Poppins, Bring It On, Newsies, and Beautiful. His recording credits are extensive and include CD releases, movie soundtracks and commercial radio/television spots. As an engineer and producer Rick has been involved in hundreds of recordings. These include recording projects with artists such as Branford Marsalis, Delfeayo Marsalis, Ellis Marsalis, Ed Thigpen, Harry Connick Jr., Michael Spiro, Joey Calderazzo, Michael Carvin, and Jimmy Cobb.
Rick is also a very active educator and has served as the Professor of Percussion at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte since 2001. He also maintains a busy private and online teaching studio.
In this episode, Rick talks about:
The variety of demands performing with the Charlotte Symphony Orchestra
Playing percussion with touring musicals and the skills needed
How important it is to develop fundamental technique at an early age
Studying with and befriending the legendary Joe Morello
Rick’s Youtube channel: it’s beginning and it’s appeal
His custom built drumsticks
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580 - Tim Carman: His New Book (The Shuffle Book Vol. 1), His New Band (Parlor Greens), and His New Home (Nashville)
2026/08/13
Tim Carman is a Nashville-based drummer, author, and educator known for his deep pocket, soulful touch, and command of blues, soul jazz, and roots music. Originally from the Boston area, Carman built his reputation on the New England music scene as a first-call sideman and session musician. From 2018 to 2024, he toured internationally and recorded with GA-20, a three-time Billboard #1 blues artist on Colemine/Karma Chief Records, helping the band earn repeated Boston Music Awards for Blues Act of the Year.
Now based in Nashville, Carman records and tours with Parlor Greens, an organ trio on Colemine Records, and continues to be an in-demand session drummer and bandleader. His playing draws on vintage electric blues grit, organ-jazz lineage, and a shuffle vocabulary that has made him a go-to voice for artists seeking deep feel and stylistic authenticity. Alongside performing, Carman is an active educator, offering lessons, clinics, and online content that connect technique to real-world musical situations for working drummers and emerging players alike.
Carman is the author of six drum books, including The Shuffle Book Vol. 1 (2026), Philly-ISM (2023), and Haynes-ISM (2022), with the latter two nominated by Modern Drummer for Educational Product of the Year. His other titles include Groove Systems (2021), Shape Beats (2020), and Shape Beats for Kids (2017).
In this episode, Tim talks about
The many changes in his life and career since we last talked in 2022
The creation and unexpected success of Parlor Greens
Colemine Records and other small record labels acting as aesthetic curators for recorded and live music
Bouncing around to a few cities over the last few years before settling on Nashville
Finding jams/hangs/residencies on a given scene, and being able to read the different vibes there
Contributing to a community by creating your own projects/opportunities
The process and goals of writing his book on Shuffles
How generalities are more useful in considering types of shuffles than definitive categories
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579 - Evan Hutchings: Mindfulness Practicing, Going for it in the Studio, Live TV Performances
2026/08/06
Evan Hutchings was Born and raised in Arkansas, Evan grew up playing drums at his dad’s church in Fort Smith. He was the kid that would sit behind the drummer during church and soak in every detail and nuance. Once church let out, he’d jump up on the kit and play, until the next church service started a few hours later.Evan got his first drum set at the age of 8 and began serenading his whole
family and neighborhood with punk rock beats and the sounds of the
radio. After touring the country with his band The Exception, Evan
decided it was time to move to Nashville, TN and attend Middle Tennessee
State under the direction of Lalo Davila and Tom Giampietro. It was in
college where Evan honed his craft and wanted to become a studio
musician.Years later and having played on multiple #1 songs on the radio, Evan is now an in demand studio drummer. You can hear his drumming with , Kenny Chesney, Reba McEntire, Luke Bryan, Jimmie Allen, Sam Hunt, Ronnie Dunn,Keith Urban, Steven Tyler, Toby Keith, Matt Stell, Maddie and Tae, Tim McGraw, Lauren Alaina, Erin McCarley, Rascal Flatts, Elle Langley and many others.
In this episode, Evan talks about:
Performing in high pressure live scenarios like live TV
The welcoming nature of people in the music industry
His consistent hunger for knowledge
Learning from other musicians
Mindfulness practicing and how that effects your drumming
Going for it in the studio and not playing it safe
Less takes about skills that are needed for session work
Performing at 50% - 70% of your total skill level and leaving some in the tank
How to dial in a mix for a session
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578 - Sterling Laws: Recording for LA Hit Makers, The Shape of Recording Drums for Today's Mainstream Pop
2026/07/30
Sterling Laws is a well-established drummer in LA, having toured and/or recorded with Chappell Roan, Olivia Rodrigo, producer Dan Nigro, Natasha Bedingfield, and many others. He is a graduate of Musicians Institute in LA where he studied with Stewart Jean and Kevin Stevens.
In this episode, Sterling talks about:
Playing with Natasha Bedingfield and serving as her MD
Growing up in rural Washington north of Seattle, and picking up drumming from his mom
Discovering a viable musical path other than being in a band and trying to “make it”
Studying at Musicians Institute with Stewart Jean and Kevin Stevens
Matriculating from school onto into he LA scene and getting his first opportunities from Barry Squire
Financial literacy lessons learned early
The support and positivity of today’s LA drumming community
Recording for Chappell Roan and Olivia Rodrigo, and how the drum tracking for a huge hit is often relatively DIY
Getting comfortable with your drumming being manipulated or even discarded altogether in the record-making process
How “getting the safe take” will earn you the right to do a more adventurous one
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577 - Jeff Brown: Jeff Returns, Taking Control of Your Career, Work Flow Hacks in the Home Studio
2026/07/23
Jeff Brown started his musical journey in Southern California, eventually moving to Nashville, TN when he was 19 years old. He cut his teeth touring and recording with rock bands throughout his 20s, working as a hired gun for both studio sessions and touring artists across many different genres. His resumé includes Reeves Gabrels (David Bowie/The Cure), Paramore, Steve Cropper, Phil Vassar, Thomas Rhett, Casey James (American Idol), Steel Magnolia (Can You Duet), Bucky Covington (American Idol) and many more. His home studio, Shrug Sound Studio is where he records drum tracks remotely and mixes songs for clients all over the world. He also engineers tracks for fellow drummers that don’t have a space to record. Repeat clients Ed Toth (The Doobie Brothers) and Kevin Murphy (Tonic/Jon Pardi), among others, rely on his accessibility, professionalism, and quick turnaround times. His studio is a comfortable and enjoyable place to record music.
In this episode, Jeff talks about:
What has changed for him since our first interview in 2015
Taking control of your career
Jeff’s time as a drum tech
Tuning for a variety of scenarios
Finding the magic and energy when tracking by yourself at home
Work flow hacks in the home studio
AI vs a real person tracking
Keeping up with the tech
Taking a break from performing live
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576 - Gustavo Cortiñas: From Mexico City to New Orleans to Chicago, In Search of Creativity and Community
2026/07/16
Gustavo Cortiñas was born and raised in Mexico City. His interest in drumming and jazz took him to Loyola University in New Orleans where he studied with Johnny Vidacovich, and on to Northwestern University in Chicago, where he has lived and worked since. His sixth album as a leader is entitled "The Drum Also Sings."
In this episode, Gustavo talks about:
Growing up in Mexico City, the son of two educators, and being surrounded by all kinds of music
Being inspired by the individuality of jazz heroes who came through Mexico City, from Dave Weckl to Dave King to Brian Blade
How circumstances intervened to steer hims path toward both New Orleans and Chicago
The immediacy and accessibility of seeing and hearing jazz drummers in an intimate setting
“The immigrant blessing”
His new record being “conceived during a period of personal and collective difficulty”
The ancestral connection between drums and voice
Gustavo’s new record
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575 - Chase Adams: Drumming with The Frontmen, What & How to Practice, Playing with Confidence & Authority
2026/07/09
Chase Adam's musical journey started when he was just three years old, collaborating with his father Thurman in the field of music. He spent many years performing in church and later pursued music education at school, specializing in various genres like concert, symphonic, jazz, and marching percussion. Throughout his early years, he played a significant role in establishing the Indianapolis Colts Drumline and the Indiana Pacers "High Octane" Drumline, while also sharing his expertise with local high school drumlines and offering private lessons. As a skilled freelance drummer living in Nashville with his wife and son, he divides his time between touring with The Frontmen, entertaining audiences at local clubs, and making valuable contributions to recording sessions.
In this episode, Chase talks about:
What and how to practice as a professional
Recording on his first “master session”
Using drum corp experience in a musical way on the kit
Staying sane on the road
Drumming with The Frontmen
Grooving and making music without the click
Confidence and authority behind the kit
Playing Lower Broadway in Nashville
Dealing with a family tragedy
Home studio work
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574 - Chris Draper: His New Book "The Inner Athlete", Recovering from Two TBIs, Playing "Hamilton" on the West End, Coming Up on the London Jazz/Fusion Scene
2026/07/02
Chris Draper is a drummer, author, and performance coach based in London. After coming up on the city's Jazz and Fusion scene as the drummer in the house band at the legendary Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club, Chris began getting opportunities in musical theatre, culminating in landing the drum chair on the West End production of Hamilton.
His new book, "The Inner Athlete: A Musician's Guide to Performance Conditioning," is the result of what Chris learned through rehabilitation after sustaining two traumatic brain injuries and subsequently getting certified as a personal trainer.
In this episode, Chris talks about:
No longer having a home studio, and not missing it
How a chance meeting at a pub led to his musical theatre career
Playing in the house band at Ronnie Scott’s jazz club in London
How some college programs are becoming more open to commercial music, especially when it comes to drums
The traumatic brain injuries and subsequent recovery that inspired him to write “The Inner Athlete”
What regulation is, physiologically, and different ways to do it
The power of breath work
Why conventional weight training and athletic conditioning doesn’t work best for musicians
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Mikelawct 2025/05/22
Great pod!
Great pod from another bass player and ex drummer! Great guests. One of the very few pods I subscribe to
lownotes 2022/10/29
Praise from a bassist
Great podcast guys. It’s fun and informative to hear your episodes as a bass player. I know and have played with many of your guests and I learn so ...
Bangbanggoesthedrum 2022/08/23
Love it!
This podcast consistently knocks it out. Always learning something from the conversations, I really appreciate how the hosts are prepared and have ins...
ConfusedBreakfastPodcast 2022/01/11
So F’n great
This podcast is not only a must-listen for drummers, but it is a must-listen for ALL musicians. Great content and guests!
xXx_drumboy69_xXx 2021/10/07
drums
they are cool
Concerned Roommate 2021/09/02
All my roommate does is talk about this podcast
I swear my roommate is a talking advertisement for these guys. They podcast is pretty good and even though I’ve never touched a drum set before it’s a...
Mrhyn495 2021/07/28
Great podcast for drummers
Matt and Zack are great interviewers who really know how to get interesting facts from their guests. I learn something new and interesting from EVERY ...
ryandrumkng 2021/07/24
Stick to the drumming not the arm
I always enjoy the podcast usually no matter who is on. Ill learn a tid-bit if info from every episode. Also all drummers seem cool at any age or musi...
Hatshepsut's phone 2020/05/19
Hooked Right Away w/ Episode # 259!
Great hosts/interviewer. I was immediately hooked in episode #259 (interview with Matt Brennan), once they touch upon the historic, symbolic nature o...
kidbanty 2019/10/27
Insightful & Inspirational
Matt and Zach are doing a great job bringing to light some lesser-known drummers who are making a living playing the drums. Of course, the get some bi...
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