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100 episodes
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Date created
2015/02/20
Latest episode
2026/01/30
Average duration
54 min.
Release period
19 days
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Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your firm needs to stand out from the pack, so a marketing strategy can no longer be an afterthought.
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RERUN: Where Strategy Meets Action feat. James Hatch
2026/01/30
What does strategy really look like inside a construction firm that wants to grow on purpose, not by accident?
In this episode of the PSM Show, host Damion Morris talks with James Hatch, Chief Strategy Officer at Kovac Building Enclosures, one of the top glazing contractors in the country. James shares how his path through architecture, estimating, finance, and business development shaped the way he leads strategy today – and why he sees the CSO as the "agent of change" inside the firm.
They dig into what it takes to keep the "periscope above the water," choose the right pursuits, and build a culture that supports change instead of resisting it. Along the way, James talks candidly about Kovac's shift from private equity to employee ownership, why authenticity matters more than polish, and what emerging leaders should practice now if they are drawn to the work of strategy.
PSM Unscripted: Starting the Year with Perspective
2026/01/09
In this unscripted conversation, Deirdre Booth and Damion Morris step away from the usual format and start the year with an honest check-in. They talk candidly about growth, ambition, balance, connection, leadership, and what changes when career wins stop being the only measure of success.
This episode sets the tone for the season ahead with real reflection, lived experience, and the kind of perspective that comes from years in the industry and life beyond the job title.
Why Joy Is a Leadership Strategy, Not a Soft Skill
2025/12/12
In an industry built on deadlines, pursuits, and constant pressure, resilience is often framed as grit and endurance. But what if that mindset is actually driving burnout?
In this episode of The PSM Show, Deirdre Booth sits down with Nicole Van Valen, founder of Keen Insights and author of The Joyful Leader, to reframe how AEC firms think about resilience, leadership, and performance. Drawing from her background as a licensed marriage and family therapist and corporate leader, Nicole explains why joy is not a perk or personality trait, but a practical tool that supports focus, steadiness, and long-term sustainability.
The conversation explores how AEC marketers and business development professionals can regulate stress in high-pressure environments, why middle managers play a critical role in shaping culture, and how tools like the Ready, Set, Go model and the Joy Menu help teams reset without stepping away from their responsibilities.
This episode offers grounded, actionable insights for leaders who want to protect their people, strengthen trust, and build teams that can perform consistently over the long game.
Nicole Van Valen:
Nicole Van Valen, M.S., L.M.F.T., SHRM-SCP is an internationally recognized speaker, consultant, and published author of The Joyful Leader®. With over 25 years of experience spanning healthcare, behavioral health, and entertainment, she equips executives and organizations to manage stress, build resilient cultures, and lead with empathy, clarity, and impact.
Nicole is the Founder and CEO of Keane Insights®, where she Nicole integrates neuroscience, mental health expertise, and leadership development to transform workplaces into high-performing, engaging environments. Nicole is also a recurring mental health expert for CBS 4 News Miami and has been featured in SUCCESS Magazine for her thought leadership on resilience and workplace performance.
A former Miami Dolphins Cheerleader and Miami HEAT Dancer, Nicole brings dynamic energy and authenticity to every stage—championing transformation through joy and proving that resilience isn't just a mindset; it's a strategic advantage.
Where Strategy Meets Action
2025/11/28
What does strategy really look like inside a construction firm that wants to grow on purpose, not by accident?
In this episode of the PSM Show, host Damion Morris talks with James Hatch, Chief Strategy Officer at Kovac Building Enclosures, one of the top glazing contractors in the country. James shares how his path through architecture, estimating, finance, and business development shaped the way he leads strategy today – and why he sees the CSO as the "agent of change" inside the firm.
They dig into what it takes to keep the "periscope above the water," choose the right pursuits, and build a culture that supports change instead of resisting it. Along the way, James talks candidly about Kovac's shift from private equity to employee ownership, why authenticity matters more than polish, and what emerging leaders should practice now if they are drawn to the work of strategy.
Generalist to Strategist: The Evolving Role of AEC Marketers
2025/11/07
Hosts Deirdre Booth and Damion Morris dig into why AEC marketing roles have stretched across design, writing, coordination, and strategy, and why that model is shifting. They unpack findings referenced from SMPS research, lessons from recent pursuits, and how private equity, data, AI, and client experience are changing expectations. Hear practical ways teams can organize around five core functions, build true strategic capacity, and connect marketing to revenue and reputation.
Crossover! What AEC Marketers Can Learn From Taylor Swift feat. Keelin Cox
2025/10/24
Whether you're a Swiftie or not, Taylor Swift's influence on global spending and the marketing strategies behind her success are impossible to ignore. In this episode, Deirdre Booth and I explore how AEC firms can draw inspiration from Taylor Swift's innovative marketing tactics to create their own opportunities for growth.
Talent and Technology in AEC Marketing
2025/10/10
AEC marketing and business development are changing fast. In this episode, Deirdre Booth talks with Scott Butcher of Stambaugh Ness about what is reshaping the work today and what leaders need next. They cover the talent crunch, the "missing middle," and why environmental scanning belongs in every plan. They discuss practical uses of AI, how early adopters are already productizing tools, and what happens when firms delay. Scott makes the case for true marketing leadership at the table, not just a new title, and offers a six month playbook that focuses on three use cases for AI, stronger BD and marketing alignment, and a habit of testing and learning. The conversation closes with clear risks of waiting, including loss of relevance and recruiting challenges, and a reminder that agility wins when conditions shift.
The Business of Client Experience with Tim Asimos
2025/09/26
Client experience is more than good service. In this episode of the PSM Show, Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth talk with Tim Amos, CPSM and Head of Growth at Client Savvy, about how AEC firms can design and manage client experiences that create measurable business results.
Tim shares his journey from in-house marketing to leading CX strategy and explains why repeat business does not always equal loyalty. He introduces practical ways to measure client sentiment, including Net Promoter Score and share of spend, and describes how firms can use feedback to inform go/no-go decisions, increase profitability, and strengthen retention.
For marketers, this conversation shows how CX can open the door to leadership. Small wins such as mapping the proposal process or implementing a client feedback program can build momentum and demonstrate the connection between marketing strategy and firm performance.
The discussion also highlights findings from the SMPS Foundation's research on CX in the AEC industry. Listeners will gain a clear view of how intentional client experience shapes reputation, growth, and long-term success.
Strategic Planning That Works in AEC
2025/08/29
In this episode of The PSM Show, co-host Damion Morris welcomes Allison Tivnon, strategic advisor, author, and City Councilor for Beaverton, Oregon. Allison has spent nearly two decades guiding AEC firms through the complexities of marketing, planning, and leadership.
Damion and Allison explore why so many strategic plans lose momentum after the retreat and how to create alignment that lasts. They discuss the importance of involving marketing in the process, the role of a skilled facilitator, and how to make sure vision translates into action.
Guest Bio:
Allison Tivnon has dedicated her career to city and regional planning, partnering with municipalities, DOTs, and regional governments on behalf of urban planners, transportation engineers, economists, and policy analysts. She presents for SMPS, ACEC, and AGC, and is the author of Marketing at Low Tide: How to Recession-Proof Your Marketing Department. She also serves as a City Councilor for the City of Beaverton, Oregon.
Learn more about Allison at AEC Pursuit Strategies or connect with her on LinkedIn.
Summer Re-Run: Interview Coaching
2025/08/08
This week on the PSM Show, we're bringing back one of our most impactful episodes while Deirdre and Damion are out at Amplify AEC.
Whether you lead interview prep or support it behind the scenes, this episode offers a powerful mindset shift: coaching is not about directing or fixing. It's about creating emotional safety and helping people shine under pressure.
If you've ever coached a must-win team or sat through a feedback session that crushed more than it helped, this one's for you.
Summer Re-Run Listener Favorite
2025/07/25
Deirdre and Damion are both gearing up for SMPS Amplify, and with Damion serving as one of this year's conference chairs, we're giving them a little breathing room this week.
In the meantime, we're bringing back a listener favorite: "Finding Your Why & Trusting the Process: Rethinking Goals." Originally released in February, it's one of our top-performing episodes—and for good reason.
What Your Website Says Without Saying It
2025/07/04
Your firm's site greets visitors long before a proposal or a handshake. In this episode of the PSM Show, co-hosts Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth sit down with content strategist and copywriter Ben Culbreath to unpack what your homepage is really saying—and why that message may be turning prospects or future hires away.
Ben shares field-tested ways to move a reader from "nice photos" to "let's talk," beginning with a simple litmus test—searching for the word you—and a copy layout known as the F pattern. He explains how clear headlines, client-focused language, and specific calls to action guide visitors through services, culture, and career paths without forcing them to hunt for key details.
The conversation covers:
• Positioning your firm through story instead of slogans
• Using client interviews to surface authentic phrases that spark attention
• Showing the how behind your work to add value and context to price discussions
• Turning the careers page into a true recruiting tool that filters fit and boosts retention
• Fresh alternatives to the tired "contact us" button that invite low-pressure conversations
Whether your goal is stronger pursuit support, a more magnetic talent funnel, or copy that simply reads like a human wrote it, Ben's advice will help your website start better conversations.
Listen now, then run his quick audits to spot exactly where small edits will create a major impact.
The Practice of Presence: Leadership That Sticks
2025/06/20
Executive presence might sound like a buzzword, but in this episode of the PSM Show, Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth get to the heart of what it really means. They break it down into practical, learnable elements: composure, communication, and appearance. Through honest conversation and real examples, they show how presence is not about being polished or loud—it's about showing up with consistency, clarity, and intention.
They explore how poise under pressure signals confidence, why language shapes perception, and how your physical presence—including in virtual meetings—affects how others receive you. Deirdre shares insights from coaching leaders across the AEC space and offers advice for those navigating early leadership roles, especially women and introverts.
This episode also touches on personal branding, emotional regulation, and the mindset shifts that help professionals move from reacting to leading. Whether you're already in a leadership seat or aiming for one, this conversation offers guidance on how to carry yourself in a way that builds trust, influence, and long-term impact.
Award-Winning Leadership: Building Influence Without Losing Yourself
2025/06/06
What does it take to lead with purpose, authenticity, and impact in the AEC industry? In this special episode of The PSM Show, co-host Damien Morris reflects on receiving the 2025 Leonardo Award from SMPS Los Angeles—a prestigious honor recognizing a career built on vision, creativity, and service.
Joined by co-host Deirdre Booth, Damien shares the personal and professional milestones that shaped his leadership journey, the mentors who inspired him, and the importance of lifting others along the way. From finding your strengths to building engaged teams, mentoring with intention, and creating meaningful change in your firm, this episode is full of real talk and practical insights for marketers at every stage of their careers.
Mindset Shifts: From Marketing Manager to CMO
2025/05/23
What does it take to move from marketing manager to CMO in the AEC industry? In this episode, we talk with Jennifer Haferbecker, founder of On Your Market Set Go, about the mindset shifts, strategic thinking, and evolving expectations that shape today's marketing leaders. Jennifer shares how marketing teams can support firm growth, influence business decisions, and build internal alignment—especially during times of change. We also explore the rise of the fractional CMO model, the expanding role of marketing in mergers and acquisitions, and the importance of showing up as a strategic partner at every level. Whether you're leading a team or looking to grow into your next role, this conversation offers real guidance for building a meaningful and future-ready career.
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scottjay99 2021/07/08
Solid AEC strategies from the trenches
Great info and entertaining too, David and Josh talk to the people doing great work for AEC firms. I learn something new with every episode.
Greenbergb 2020/01/08
Amazing podcast. A must listen for all marketers and business owners.
Josh and David go way deeper than any other marketing podcast I've ever listened to. This isn't you normal 20 minute marketing promo podcast. They go ...
MarketingTwins-Randy-TX 2015/05/22
I learn a lot! And it’s fun, too!
Hey guys - new listener from Texas also in the school marketing consulting space. I have really enjoyed listening to your podcast. Some practical sugg...
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