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2026/10/29
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Ep 301: Is Anyone There?
2026/10/29
Michael sent Matt a song he loved, with a music video that looked completely real, so Matt went looking for the singer and found an Instagram account for someone who doesn't exist. ⠀ That got us asking what happens when you can't tell if anyone is behind what you see. Matt worries about a world quietly filling with fakes, while Michael sees a new frontier for honest storytelling. We also get into AI becoming SI, why intent makes art beautiful, talking to the dead, and why analog still matters. ⠀ Cheers y'all 🍻 ⠀ Chapters: (00:00) Feels Pregnant (02:00) From AI to SI (04:15) Reveal or Conceal (08:00) The AI Song (09:00) You Can't Pay for Mistakes (13:30) Intent Makes It Beautiful (22:00) A New Frontier for Math (26:45) The Most Real Thing (33:00) Not Like the Atom Bomb (38:45) Weekend at Bernie's (45:00) Talking to the Dead (57:00) The Headless Internet (1:02:45) Why Analog Matters (1:09:00) Endless Shakespeare (1:19:45) What Are You Aiming At ⠀ Resources: • Inaugurating the Era of Super Intelligence (Executive Order) - https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/09/inaugurating-the-era-of-super-intelligence/ • P(doom) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P(doom) • Azie Taylor Morton - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azie_Taylor_Morton • Jacksonville City Nights (Ryan Adams) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville_City_Nights • Lex Fridman #503: AI Crisis in Math - https://lexfridman.com/math-ai-crisis/ • Madeleine L'Engle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_L%27Engle • Black Mirror: Be Right Back - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back • The Portal Ep 21 (Riley Reid) - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/21-ashley-mathews-aka-riley-reid-the-mogul-and/id1469999563?i=1000464283583 • Weekend at Bernie's - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_at_Bernie%27s • The Matrix - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix • Phonograph Cylinder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_cylinder • Nyquist–Shannon Sampling Theorem - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem • Red Rising (Pierce Brown) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rising • The Wheel of Time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time • Foundation (Isaac Asimov) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series ⠀ Fact Checks: • ✅ Trump ordered agencies to say "SI" instead of "AI" — Verified • ⚠️ Austin renamed Robert E. Lee to "AZ Morton Boulevard" — Needs context • ⚠️ Ryan Adams' one-take "mistakes like that" story — Needs context • ✅ Three top mathematicians on Lex Fridman about AI solving open problems — Verified • ⚠️ L'Engle: fiction can be truer than nonfiction — Needs context • ⚠️ College kids getting rich with AI OnlyFans models — Needs context • ⚠️ Porn drove the early internet — Needs context • ✅ The atomic bomb came before nuclear power — Verified • ✅ Newsom dined at the French Laundry during COVID limits — Verified • ✅ Talarico was off the trail for about two weeks — Verified • ✅ Black Mirror did an AI of a dead loved one — Verified • ✅ Eric Weinstein interviewed Riley Reid — Verified • ❌ Edison's first recorder cut into wax — Incorrect • ⚠️ Vinyl is a direct imprint of the performance — Needs context • ⚠️ Digital audio is "connect the dots" — Needs context • ⚠️ Seeing a Picasso at the Louvre — Needs context Read the full fact checks here - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/301/ ⠀ Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links - https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links - https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance - https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods - https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici - https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 300: 300 Shores Visited
2026/10/22
300 shores visited. Our starting point is still ignorance. We don't even know what we're ignorant of. But we have a feel for how to get to the shore. ⠀ Eight years in, has all this talking made us braver? We talk about playing with ideas, not battling them. We also get into being misunderstood, curiosity versus dogma, and dying to yourself like a caterpillar in the goo. ⠀ Also, by the numbers we can see, 2026 is our best year yet. Thank you for listening. ⠀ Cheers y'all 🍻 ⠀ Chapters: (00:00) 300 Shores Visited (01:15) Our Best Year Yet (03:00) Playing With Ideas (07:15) Writing Orders Your Thinking (10:00) Did It Make Us Braver (19:15) Comfortable Being Misunderstood (25:15) Curiosity or Dogma (31:15) The Flying Roadster (33:30) Episodes That Rocked Us (42:15) Disentangling the Personal (47:30) Testimony and the Meaning of Battle (57:15) Coexist and Suicidal Empathy (1:01:15) Dying to Yourself (1:06:45) Before the Judge (1:16:00) Here's to 300 More ⠀ Resources: • Ep 296: The Logos and the Lie - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/296/ • Ep 232: Romance, Sex, Orthodoxy - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/232/ • Ep 112: Metaphor Is Truer Than Objective - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/112/ • Ep 10: Accessing the Ancient with Alison Vaclav - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/10/ • Jordan Peterson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson • Intellectual Dark Web - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_dark_web • Bret Weinstein - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Weinstein • Tesla Roadster Event - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt5p-_tE8d0 • Covid Era Stories (Heather Heying) - https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/covid-era-stories • The Chosen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_(TV_series) • Coexist - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coexist_(image) • Suicidal Empathy (Gad Saad) - https://www.amazon.com/Suicidal-Empathy-Dying-Be-Kind/dp/0063446537 • Imaginal Disc - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginal_disc ⠀ Fact Checks: • ✅ We started the show in 2018 — Verified • ⚠️ Ep 100 was "over two years ago" — Needs context • ✅ Peterson: writing is how you learn to think — Verified • ✅ Bret Weinstein moderated Peterson vs Harris — Verified • ⚠️ Musk's "Nazi salute" — Needs context • ⚠️ "Democracy at the ballot box and beyond" — Needs context • ✅ Tesla Roadster flew and flipped at its unveiling — Verified • ✅ AOC and Omar called Musk unintelligent — Verified • ✅ Heather Heying's anonymous Covid Era Stories — Verified • ✅ Serpent: your eyes will be opened, you'll be like God — Verified • ✅ Hairs numbered, tears kept in a bottle — Verified • ❌ Average COVID death had six comorbidities — Incorrect • ⚠️ Median COVID death age above life expectancy — Needs context • ✅ Gad Saad's "suicidal empathy" — Verified • ✅ "I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" — Verified • ⚠️ Caterpillars turn to goo in the cocoon — Needs context • ⚠️ "None is righteous, all are evil" — Needs context Read the full fact checks here - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/300/ ⠀ Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links - https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links - https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance - https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods - https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici - https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 299: Washer Fluid and the Meaning of Life
2026/10/15
Once you name a thing, it judges you. So we'd rather not look. This week Michael poured a cup of water on his windshield instead of buying washer fluid. ⠀ The problems never run out. There is no arrival. So where does hope come from? We talk about holding plans loosely, communion as digestion, an age at war with definitions, and finding rest in a God who can't be tamed. ⠀ Cheers y'all 🍻 ⠀ Chapters: (00:00) To the Shores of Giddiness (01:00) Patterns That Don't Serve Us (07:15) Washer Fluid Avoidance (11:15) Stress Shrinks the Horizon (12:15) Holding Plans Loosely (19:00) Are We There Yet (29:00) Dayenu (31:15) Eat My Body, Digest Me (38:00) Anti Reality (45:30) When Michael's Reality Broke (53:00) God Is a Wild Man (1:01:00) Anti Science and Anti Definition (1:16:00) To Name It Is to See It (1:24:00) People Who Aren't There (1:30:45) Confession and Repentance ⠀ Resources: • Eric Weinstein on The Diary of a CEO - https://www.youtube.com/@TheDiaryOfACEO • Dayenu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayenu • Rich Mullins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Mullins • Paradise Lost - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost • Jordan Peterson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson • A Moveable Feast - https://www.amazon.com/Moveable-Feast-Restored-Ernest-Hemingway/dp/1439182728 • Nineteen Eighty-Four - https://www.amazon.com/1984-Signet-Classics-George-Orwell/dp/0451524934 • The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion,_the_Witch_and_the_Wardrobe • Avatar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film) • This Is Fine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_is_fine • Sisyphus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus • Stress and the Prefrontal Cortex (Arnsten) - https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn2648 ⠀ Fact Checks: • ⚠️ Chronic stress shrinks long-term thinking — Needs context • ✅ James 4 "if the Lord wills" — Verified • ✅ Paul's planned visits were hindered — Verified • ✅ Dayenu is a Passover Seder song — Verified • ✅ Weinstein says nearly 100% of us are insane — Verified • ✅ Rich Mullins "God is a wild man" — Verified • ⚠️ Evil believes its knowledge is sufficient — Needs context • ✅ "Feel for your hatchet" is from Narnia — Verified • ✅ Widowhood effect — Verified • ⚠️ Median COVID death age above life expectancy — Needs context • ⚠️ Unarmed police shootings study, Harvard firing — Needs context • ⚠️ Jung on thinking in words vs pictures — Needs context • ⚠️ Newspeak shrinking to a few dozen words — Needs context • ✅ Hemingway on Fitzgerald in A Moveable Feast — Verified • ⚠️ Americans are the fattest people in history — Needs context Read the full fact checks here - https://shoresofignorance.com/episodes/299/ ⠀ Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links - https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links - https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance - https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods - https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici - https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 298: You Are Traffic
2026/10/08
Matt and Michael start with ACL weekend and the arrival of fall. But the conversation quickly turns to something deeper. What are our artists telling us? Matt shares his observation from watching ACL clips on Instagram. The performers all seemed low energy, emaciated, and disengaged. No rock and roll. No guitars. Just DJs and singers buttoned up to the neck. It sparks a bigger question. If artists are the first to catch the zeitgeist, what zeitgeist are they catching right now? They explore the line between artist and propagandist. When Ed Sheeran uninvited Macklemore for making political statements at a concert, people demanded Sheeran pick a side. When a performer at ACL held a sign reading castrate the Cornell 7, it raised the question of whether that is art or propaganda. Michael shares how he left an Eddie Vedder concert early because the politics drowned out the music. The conversation spirals through the algorithm as a false god. You are not a person on Instagram. You are traffic. Performers are not playing to people anymore. They are playing to a sea of iPhones broadcasting to the algorithm. The result is a culture that celebrates everything and scrutinizes nothing, where the only sin is asking whether something is actually good. They land on the hardest truth of all. Matt confesses that even when he asks himself what he wants, the answer is not good things. His own desires are broken. And the only answer he has found is not in himself but in the one who says, I am the way. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Fall Is Coming [02:57] The Reality of Reality [04:23] What We Accept Without Scrutiny [07:17] Artists at ACL [11:49] Artists vs Propagandists [17:11] The Degradation of Sex [22:05] When Actors Became Political [29:46] A Sea of iPhones [33:44] You Are Traffic [43:06] The Need for Discernment [51:57] Monogamy and Evolution [57:24] God Is Dead [67:46] Something Wrong With My Heart [73:33] Grateful Despite Myself [80:34] The Renaissance Resources: • Red Rising — https://amazon.com/Red-Rising-Pierce-Brown/dp/0345539788 • The Brothers Karamazov — https://amazon.com/Brothers-Karamazov-Fyodor-Dostoevsky/dp/0374528373 • Four Quartets — https://amazon.com/Four-Quartets-T-S-Eliot/dp/0156332256 • Friedrich Nietzsche — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche • Albert Camus — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Camus • The Cinderella Effect — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effect Fact Checks: • ✅ If there is no God everything is permitted — Verified • ✅ Bonnie Blue claimed 1057 men in 24 hours — Verified • ⚠️ Ed Sheeran uninvited Macklemore — Needs context • ✅ God is dead Nietzsche — Verified • ✅ Eliot wait without hope quote — Verified • ⚠️ Non-biological adult predictor of child abuse — Needs context • ✅ Ed Sheeran among most streamed artists — Verified Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 297: What If Belief Actually Changes You?
2026/10/01
Michael opens with a question that has been rattling around his soul. What actually changes when someone goes from not knowing God to knowing God? Is it just semantics, or does something real happen? He traces the pattern through scripture. Israel crossing the Red Sea. Jacob wrestling God and becoming Israel. Simon becoming Peter. Saul becoming Paul. Every time, something shifts. A name changes. A person becomes someone new. Matt tells the story of sneaking backstage at concerts as a broke college kid. No credentials, no lanyard. Just confidence. The hypothesis was simple. Act like you are supposed to be there and nobody stops you. It worked every time. This becomes a metaphor for what belief actually does. It is not just intellectual assent. It is a change in how you carry yourself in the world. The conversation spirals through God's question to Adam in the garden. Where are you? Not a question about atoms and molecules. A question about presence. About where your heart is. They explore what it means to be maximally alive, why the just be a good person worldview collapses under the weight of real relationships, and why every human walking in circles without a landmark ends up right back where they started. They land on fatherhood. Matt's two year old is learning that other people have names, but Dad is not a name. Dad is a category. The highest one. And maybe being born again is exactly that. Recognizing a Father you did not know you had. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Fun Facts with Matt [01:38] What Does It Mean to Be Born Again [08:21] Backstage Without Credentials [12:36] The Power of Belief [15:04] Catechism and Belonging [18:01] Where Are You [25:45] Love and Vulnerability [32:01] Walking in Circles [36:12] The Hole That Can't Be Filled [42:57] Eternity Written on Hearts [58:23] Heaven Here and Now [67:44] The Father's Love [75:00] Born Again Means a New Reference Point [80:58] Buddhism and the Problem of Desire [88:20] Takeaways Resources: • The Four Loves — https://amazon.com/Four-Loves-C-S-Lewis/dp/0156329301 • The Great Divorce — https://amazon.com/Great-Divorce-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652950 • Orthodoxy — https://amazon.com/Orthodoxy-G-K-Chesterton/dp/1598560514 • The Alchemist — https://amazon.com/Alchemist-Paulo-Coelho/dp/0062315005 • Mere Christianity — https://amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926 • Bryan Johnson — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Johnson • John Piper — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Piper_(theologian) Fact Checks: • ✅ Mission Impossible theme is Morse code for MI — Verified • ⚠️ Placebos work as effectively as pharmaceuticals — Needs context • ✅ Ezekiel 36:26 heart of stone to flesh — Verified • ✅ Ecclesiastes 3:11 eternity in hearts — Verified • ✅ Humans cannot walk straight without landmarks — Verified • ✅ Lewis love and vulnerability quote — Verified • ✅ Lewis thy will be done quote — Verified • ✅ Chesterton heresy to orthodoxy quote — Verified Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 296: The Logos and the Lie
2026/09/24
Matt and Michael start with breathing exercises and end up in the deep end of theology. What begins as a conversation about Wim Hof and the symbolic power of breath becomes an exploration of the Logos. The divine Word that John says was in the beginning. Through which all things were made. Matt shares the story of his divorce and the strange experience of watching two people's realities separate until communication becomes impossible. This leads to a fundamental question. If we can't agree on a shared reality, what happens? The answer, they argue, is violence. Unless there's a higher order, a Logos, to which both parties submit. The conversation spirals through the nature of truth and lies. Why lying creates an anti-reality you must maintain. Why even atheists can't escape submitting to something. Michael makes the case that submission is the only true act of free will. Matt connects this to C.S. Lewis's The Four Loves and why friendship requires a third object that both people face together. They land on the Christian claim that Jesus is the Logos made flesh. The ultimate reality who reveals himself, because we cannot build our way up to God. The Tower of Babel always fails. The Word must come down. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Breathing exercises and Wim Hof [03:12] The symbolic power of breath [05:36] Introducing the Logos [08:08] When Venn diagrams separate [15:40] The judicial system as shared authority [19:49] Without a mediator, violence follows [22:52] Top-down vs bottom-up truth [27:03] John Lennox on morality without God [29:46] Why lying creates an anti-reality [36:32] Die to yourself [42:10] Testing and approving what is real [45:56] The demonstrable nature of truth [51:15] Camus and the absurd [54:00] Materialism and the abolition of man [57:06] Free will as submission or destruction [61:46] C.S. Lewis on friendship [66:30] The Tower of Babel problem [71:38] Violating yourself [75:10] Experience vs knowledge [80:42] I never knew you [85:26] The ultimate reconciliation [88:05] Glory be to that Resources: • Breath by James Nestor — https://amazon.com/Breath-New-Science-Lost-Art/dp/0735213615 • The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl Trueman — https://amazon.com/Rise-Triumph-Modern-Self/dp/1433556332 • The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis — https://amazon.com/Four-Loves-C-S-Lewis/dp/0156329301 • The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis — https://amazon.com/Abolition-Man-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652942 • John Lennox — https://wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennox • Albert Camus — https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Camus • Peter Kreeft — https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kreeft • Jordan Peterson — https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson • The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis — https://amazon.com/Great-Divorce-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652950 Fact Checks: • ✅ Most weight loss leaves through breath — Verified • ✅ John 1:1 uses Logos — Verified • ✅ Lewis on friendship's third object — Verified • ✅ Abolition of Man quote — Verified • ✅ Peterson on never getting away with anything — Verified • ⚠️ Gollum was a hobbit — Needs context • ✅ James 1:2 on joy in trials — Verified • ✅ John 14:6 — Verified • ✅ Matthew 7:21-23 — Verified Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 295: The Rock and the Hunchback
2026/09/17
Matt and Michael open with a meditation on digital trust in an age of voice cloning and AI impersonation. Then things get interesting. A Napoleon quote about Christ's empire of love launches them into a deep exploration of certainty, faith, and identity. They wrestle with the difference between certainty and certitude, the paradox of being certain of what we do not see, and why awareness itself can undermine confidence. The conversation builds toward a profound discussion of how Christ's reality transcends time and space, and what it means to be called not just to follow him, but to become him. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Opening and Digital Trust [06:43] Napoleon's Quote on Christ [10:15] What Would You Die For? [17:15] Certainty vs. Certitude [22:13] Faith and the Limits of Certainty [28:08] Solipsism and Descartes [33:34] The Airbnb Thought Experiment [39:42] C.S. Lewis on Rationality and God [44:15] T.S. Eliot and the Still Point [46:48] Muscle Memory and Lost Knowledge [50:47] Trust, Faith, and Relationships [55:05] Waiting at the Bench [60:54] The Reality of Christ Beyond Time [67:27] What Is More Real Than Physical Presence? [74:01] Tolkien, Lewis, and the Power of Story [78:31] Identity in Christ [84:12] The Chosen and the Shift in Jesus' Language [86:49] Closing Thoughts Resources: • Napoleon Bonaparte — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon • C.S. Lewis — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis • J.R.R. Tolkien — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien • The Lord of the Rings — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings • The Chronicles of Narnia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia • T.S. Eliot Four Quartets — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Quartets • The Chosen — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_(TV_series) • John Lennox — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennox • Nostr — https://nostr.com • Descartes — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes • Ted Lasso — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lasso Fact Checks: • ✅ Napoleon quote authenticity — Verified from St. Helena talks • ✅ Hebrews 11:1 — Faith is being sure of what you hope for • ✅ John 14:6 — No one comes to the Father except through me • ✅ John 15:5 — I am the vine, you are the branches • ✅ Peter's denial — Three times on the night of arrest • ✅ Tolkien's influence on Lewis — Verified • ⚠️ The Inklings pub — Eagle and Child, not Child and Rose • ✅ Voice cloning technology — Verified, requires only minutes of audio Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 294: The Darkness of God
2026/09/10
Matt and Michael open with T.S. Eliot's East Coker III, a dense meditation on darkness, waiting, and the limits of human understanding. The poem's command to wait without hope and wait without love sparks a conversation about the seasons in life and marriage where our old conceptions must die so something new can be born. The discussion spirals into the nature of second birth. Not just physical birth, but the spiritual rebirth Jesus describes to Nicodemus. They explore how we cannot imagine what we are being born into, how our agency proves insufficient, and why Christianity uniquely promises that God will meet us in the darkness rather than demanding we climb out ourselves. The episode closes with a reflection on the synoptic Gospels. Why Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell the same stories differently, and what this reveals about truth, perspective, and the impossibility of a single objective account. They also touch on why we must remain humble about the stories we think we know. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Opening and T.S. Eliot's East Coker III [05:16] Why Poetry Requires a Different Reading [06:50] The Feeling That Started This Conversation [10:01] Waiting Without Hope or Love [13:46] Marriage and the Death of Old Conceptions [20:09] Marriage and the Death of Old Conceptions [23:02] Birth, Death, and the Second Birth [32:22] What Is the Second Birth? [39:34] Planning vs. Agility in Battle [43:00] How Do We Get to God? [46:37] The Argument from Desire [52:51] Preparing for the Unknown [58:17] Jesus and the Father [64:07] The Part of Us That Dies with Others [69:04] The Synoptic Gospels [71:01] The Problem of Perspective [88:42] Be Still and Still Moving [92:02] Closing Thoughts Resources: • Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot — https://www.amazon.com/Four-Quartets-T-S-Eliot/dp/0156332256 • East Coker poem — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coker_(poem) • Peter Kreeft Argument from Desire — https://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/argument-from-desire.htm • Synoptic Gospels — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels Fact Checks: • ✅ East Coker is the second of Four Quartets — Verified • ✅ Old men should be explorers is from East Coker V — Verified • ✅ The best laid plans of mice and men is Robert Burns — Verified • ✅ Synoptic means to see together — Verified • ⚠️ Current events discussed — Needs context Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 293: Bankrupt on Both Sides
2026/09/03
Matt and Michael open by celebrating Medici's 20th anniversary. Michael reflects on two decades of coffee shops, community, heartbreak, and over a thousand baristas hired. The conversation turns to the cost of building anything meaningful. A business, a marriage, a family. And how knowing the cost upfront might stop you from ever starting. Then things get interesting. They wrestle with a deceptively simple question. How are you supposed to live? They explore the paradox that we take credit when things go well but blame circumstances when they do not. They dig into the illusion of self-knowledge, comparing our sense of self to knowing a celebrity. Familiar but ultimately opaque. The episode builds toward the idea that we need an external reference point to understand who we are. And that the Christian answer to that need is found in the image of God, revealed most clearly on the cross. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Medici Turns 20 [05:18] The Audacity of Starting Something [08:09] The Cost of Life Is Death [11:47] Letting Your Kids Go [13:46] How Are We Supposed to Live [18:21] The Parable of Maybe [20:35] Discipline Without Guarantees [22:01] What Is Success Anyway [27:51] The Inversions of the Gospel [31:48] Lean Not on Your Own Understanding [35:19] The Wrong Road and Repentance [41:15] You Don't Know Who You Are [49:39] Stare at the Rock, Hit the Rock [54:16] Building a Box Around Yourself [59:54] The Deadbeat Dad and Inherent Worth [64:32] Made in the Image of God [69:47] Bleed Yourself Dry [76:07] Men Are That Which Die [81:25] You're More Than You Think You Are Resources: • The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis — https://www.amazon.com/Four-Loves-C-S-Lewis/dp/0156329301 • The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis — https://www.amazon.com/Great-Divorce-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652950 • The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard — https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Kingdom/dp/0060693339 • The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway — https://www.amazon.com/Old-Man-Sea-Ernest-Hemingway/dp/0684801221 • Breaking Bad — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/ • Dumb and Dumber — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109686/ • Jordan Peterson — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson • Bret Weinstein — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Weinstein • Weezer — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer • Medici Roasting — https://mediciroasting.com Fact Checks: • ✅ Medici opened September 2, 2006 — Verified • 📖 John the Apostle boiled alive — Church tradition, not biblical canon • 📖 Peter crucified upside down — Church tradition, not biblical canon • 📖 Paul beheaded — Church tradition, consistent with Roman execution • ⚠️ Proverbs 16:9 paraphrase — Close but not exact • ✅ Philippians 2:6 paraphrase — Accurate • ⚠️ Gypsy Rose Blanchard case — Matches description of Munchausen by proxy murder • ✅ Egg cells originate in grandmother's womb — Scientifically accurate Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 292: Purpose, Insanity, and Atom Bombs (Oh My)
2026/08/20
Matt and Michael open with a meditation on purpose. Why do they do this podcast? No agenda, no growth targets, no monetization strategy. Just two friends showing up every Wednesday for six years. Matt connects this to Goodhart's Law. When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. Michael shares how the same principle applies to running Medici. You can get so lost in cost of goods and ticket counts that you forget why you started. Then things get unsettling. Matt introduces the Toka Group, an Israeli company that claims it can remotely access security cameras, watch live feeds, and alter recorded footage without leaving a trace. Pair that with AI-generated video and the implications are staggering. What happens when seeing is no longer believing? The conversation spirals through fake LinkedIn recruiters, AI-generated emails, Anthropic's watermarking of Claude's output, and whether we're heading toward a world where the only things you can trust are the people you can physically touch. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Shout Out to Danny at Asado [01:05] Why Do We Do This Podcast [02:46] Doing Things Without a Clear Purpose [04:47] Six Years of Showing Up [06:33] Medici and Forgetting Your First Love [07:58] Goodhart's Law [10:15] The Toka Group and Camera Manipulation [13:49] Trust as a High Commodity [15:49] The Death of Seeing Is Believing [18:24] What Happens in the Next Crisis [20:10] Getting Fooled by AI [22:27] A Reversion to In-Person Life [26:25] The Important Things Are Still Findable [28:15] The Future of Live Music [30:46] Comedy Clubs and Community [33:32] The Fake LinkedIn Recruiter [40:13] AI Slop and the Death of Email [43:16] Identity Verification vs Anonymity [45:31] QR Codes Ruined the Movies [50:09] Parking Systems Killing Small Business [51:14] Flock Cameras and the End of Privacy [55:25] Ring Knows More Than You Think [57:13] Discovering the Atom Bomb Again and Again [58:14] Anthropic Watermarking Explained [63:25] White Text Easter Eggs [65:03] Are We Feeding the Terminator [67:51] Nothing New Under the Sun Resources: • Goodhart's Law — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law • Toka Group — https://x.com/joshwalkos/status/2085785810754785715 • Dark Horse Podcast — https://darkhorse.com • Anthropic — https://www.anthropic.com • Flock Safety — https://www.flocksafety.com • Sofar Sounds — https://www.sofarsounds.com • Nostr — https://nostr.com • 72 Hours (Kevin Hart) — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28015403/ • Medici Roasting — https://mediciroasting.com Fact Checks: • ✅ Goodhart's Law — Verified • ✅ Toka Group — Verified • ✅ Anthropic watermarking — Verified • ✅ Ring footage recovery — Verified • ✅ Flock Safety cameras — Verified • ⚠️ Franklin liberty/safety quote — Paraphrased, not exact • ✅ Canadian trucker debanking — Verified Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 291: We Are There Yet
2026/08/13
Matt and Michael open with the paradox of getting your ass kicked and somehow feeling more alive because of it. Matt shares his realization that there is no "there" to arrive at. The car ride IS the destination. Flat tires, closed restaurants, broken grinders. That's not the interruption of life. That IS life. Then things get deep. They wrestle with Dawkins vs. Lennox on justice and whether the universe has a moral order. They explore why science itself presupposes God, why atheism requires its own kind of faith, and why Lennox's answer about morality is devastating. All men are created in the image of God, even the ones who don't believe in Him. The back half dives into inversion. How we try to make reality conform to us instead of conforming ourselves to reality. They tackle sex, polyamory, pornography, and C.S. Lewis's insight from The Abolition of Man. If you optimize for the purpose of a thing, you destroy the thing itself. Optimize for pleasure, and you end up in misery. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Intro [00:23] Getting Your Ass Kicked [02:06] Are We There Yet [03:20] 110 Bad Shots [03:40] Success Rate of Legends [05:23] Count It Pure Joy [08:09] Why Participate at All [11:01] Dawkins vs. Lennox [13:23] What Is Meaning [17:59] Science Presupposes God [22:03] Is Atheism Rational [25:11] Image of God in Atheists [27:05] The Great Inversion [31:37] Sex and Specificity [38:48] Celebrating What [44:21] The Purpose of Sex [48:08] The Abolition of Man [51:29] Optimize for Pleasure [56:27] The Polyamory Question [64:53] Money Won't Fix It [66:48] Children and Their Parents [71:16] Where Am I From [73:09] Wrapping Up Resources: • The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis — https://www.amazon.com/Abolition-Man-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652942 • John Lennox — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennox • Richard Dawkins — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins • Chamath Palihapitiya on Lex Fridman — https://lexfridman.com/chamath-palihapitiya/ • Brave New World by Aldous Huxley — https://www.amazon.com/Brave-New-World-Aldous-Huxley/dp/0060850523 • James 1:2-3 — https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+1%3A2-3 • Dallas Willard — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Willard • Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy_(book) • Wedding Crashers — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0396269/ Fact Checks: • ✅ Picasso total works estimated up to 150K — Verified, but includes prints and ceramics, not just paintings • ✅ Married people report more sex than singles — Verified by multiple studies • ✅ Gretzky quote on missing shots — Verified • ⚠️ Thatcher quote — She said "socialism" not "communism" • ⚠️ Jordan's 7% success rate — Needs context, likely refers to broader success metrics not field goal percentage • ⚠️ Massachusetts abortion legislation — Characterization of signing ceremony needs context Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 290: Does the Devil Exist?
2026/08/06
Matt and Michael mark eight years of the podcast with a question someone recently asked Michael. Does the devil exist? What follows is a winding conversation through evil, morality, materialism, and the logic of the cross. They explore why Western culture has lost touch with the concept of evil, how political contradictions reveal our moral confusion, and why the devil's greatest trick might be making himself disappear from the conversation entirely. Drawing on prison interviews, biblical texts, Solzhenitsyn, Scott Peck, and even Thanos, they land on a surprising conclusion. The devil is real, but he's not who we think he is. He's the spirit of self-justification, the voice that says "I am enough." And we all hear it. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Opening Song & Cheers [00:51] Welcome to Episode 290 [01:41] Does the Devil Exist? [03:07] Kindergarten Fairy Tales vs. Real Evil [04:16] Does Western Society Believe Evil Exists? [07:13] The Contradiction of Abolishing Prisons [13:15] The Spirit of a Concert [17:39] The Praise of Self [23:26] Playing Evil: The Actor's Insight [25:10] Thanos Thought He Was Just [28:20] Sadism vs. Self-Deception [31:06] Satan Tempts Jesus [33:04] The Look in Maximum Security [37:21] The Devil Is Not on Par with God [42:12] What Is the Alternative? [44:57] People of the Lie & Exorcism [48:54] You Become What You Consume [53:07] It Is No Longer I Who Live [55:50] Evil Is the Arrogance That Says "I Know Best" [60:18] Taking Full Responsibility [63:38] John Lennox: The Explanatory Power of the Cross [67:37] Why Does the Devil Even Matter? [70:30] The Materialist Problem [75:02] The Devil Is Inside the System [77:20] Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem [79:21] Clearly Seen by What Has Been Made [81:58] Born Again: A Different Lineage [83:52] Hell Is Outside of Time [85:50] Farewell Resources: • M. Scott Peck — People of the Lie — https://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Evil/dp/0684848597 • Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn — The Gulag Archipelago — https://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipelago-1918-1956-Abridged/dp/0061253804 • John Lennox — https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbTzmq0ShJA/ • Kurt Gödel — Incompleteness Theorem — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems • Veritasium — Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo • Teresa of Avila — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_of_%C3%81vila Fact Checks: • ✅ Solzhenitsyn quote — Verified • ✅ Teresa of Avila quote — Verified • ✅ Gödel's incompleteness theorem — Verified • ✅ Mormon Jesus/Satan brothers teaching — Verified Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/2BnhB2qVLP4gdRjy7R0uo0 Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shores-of-ignorance/id1438899219 Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 289: Fix Your Eyes (Or the Algorithm Will)
2026/07/30
Matt and Michael open with a toast to Glenn Hansard, who passed away that morning at 56. Matt reflects on how musicians he's never met have shaped his life in real, relational ways. This sparks a conversation about what it means to have a relationship with someone you've never met. The conversation deepens into attention. What are you fixing your eyes on? They explore the bronze serpent in the wilderness, Jesus telling Peter to look at him, and how Instagram's algorithm quietly answers that question for most people. Michael shares that his why needs an upgrade after years of survival mode. Matt argues that don't die is not a sufficient reason to live. You need something positive to move toward. They close with the extraordinary privilege of being alive right now. A handwritten Bible from 1402 was chained to a cathedral shelf. Today you can read it on your phone in seconds. The options for where to fix your eyes are nearly infinite, which makes the question more urgent than ever. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Cheers to Glenn Hansard [03:59] Seeing Glenn Live vs. Eddie Vedder [07:06] Relationships With People You've Never Met [10:10] The I-to-We Dynamic [14:14] Art, Value, and the Revelation of God [16:56] Scrolling vs. Sitting With a Record [20:18] Fix Your Eyes on Him [25:04] Social Media Isn't Social [29:30] Attention Can Be Consumed [32:52] The Transition Into the Information Age [35:20] Don't Die Is Not a Why [40:21] Cessation Keeps Your Gaze on the Thing [45:47] Grayscale Mode and Other Phone Tricks [48:17] Pearls Before Swine [51:34] To-Go Advice and Time Bombs [55:30] The Sower and the Seed [57:41] In Due Time [61:17] The Process of Becoming [65:27] Reframing Trouble as Adventure [69:31] The Victory Comes Before the Battle [72:23] Is There Such Thing as Luck? [76:11] Chained Libraries and Extraordinary Access [80:57] What Are You Fixing Your Eyes On? Resources: • Once (film) — https://imdb.com/title/tt0907657 • The Swell Season (documentary) — https://imdb.com/title/tt1732483 • Glen Hansard — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Hansard • The Chosen — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_(TV_series) • House of David — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_David_(TV_series) • The Lord of the Rings — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings • Tim Scott (YouTube cathedral tour) — https://youtu.be/8IsbKH-EsAY • Chained Libraries — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chained_library • Bronze Serpent (Numbers 21) — https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+21%3A4-9 • 1 Peter 5:6-7 — https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+5%3A6-7 Fact Checks: • ✅ Glen Hansard passed away July 29, 2026 — Verified • ✅ Bronze serpent story (Numbers 21:4-9) — Verified • ✅ Jesus references bronze serpent (John 3:14-15) — Verified • ✅ David anointed young, king of all Israel at 37 — Verified • ✅ Chained libraries existed — Verified • ⚠️ Iodine will kill you — Needs context (large quantities yes) Find us here: x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 288: Philosophical Seinfeld
2026/07/23
Matt and Michael open with the Texas heat and the strange feeling of being between seasons. Not just summer tipping toward fall, but the inner seasons of thought and spirit where old ideas fade and new ones haven't arrived. What do you do when you don't know what to do? They explore anxiety and faith, the discipline of presence, and how focusing on relationships unlocked unexpected reconnections. Then things get deeper. They wrestle with truth as conforming to reality, the fear of God as respect for overwhelming power, and why rights only work when they come from God rather than government. The conversation turns to communism and why it always ends in genocide, why markets and elections work because they let reality speak, and why everything good is good because of love. Michael calls it what it is. Two guys stumbling through ideas, pushing on things, trying to find the meat on the bone. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Summer Heat and Changing Seasons [01:42] The In-Between Space of Ideas [04:44] Faith and Anxiety Are Opposites [07:14] Focus on Relationships [10:55] Reconnecting with Old Friends [13:09] Solitude and Community [14:44] Spring Cleaning for the Soul [17:03] Parenting Through Changing Seasons [19:29] Teaching Aletta to Swim [21:29] Truth Is Conforming to Reality [24:16] The Fear of God [26:41] A World Without God [30:15] Materialism and Rights [36:40] Power Struggles and Postmodernism [38:51] Communism and Forced Contribution [44:42] Pearls Before Swine [49:05] Wisdom Is Humility [51:46] Be Willing to Be Wrong [55:18] Markets and Reality Fighting Back [57:17] Relationships Teach Conformity [60:04] AI Music and Missing Soul [63:55] Everything Good Is Love [71:24] Philosophical Seinfeld [73:13] Stumbling Toward Something Resources: • Streams in the Desert — https://www.amazon.com/Streams-Desert-366-Daily-Devotional/dp/0310353684 • The Old Man and the Sea — https://www.amazon.com/Old-Man-Sea-Ernest-Hemingway/dp/0684801221 • Book of Job — https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+38&version=ESV • Matthew 7 — https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=ESV • Declaration of Independence — https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript • Goodhart's Law — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law • Roma Craft Tobac — https://romacrafttobac.com • Dekulakization — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization Fact Checks: • ✅ Summer solstice timing — Verified • ✅ Marx opium quote — Verified • ✅ Kulak elimination and famine — Verified • ✅ Matthew 7 passages — Verified • ✅ Goodhart's Law — Verified • ✅ Declaration unalienable rights — Verified • ⚠️ 52 states — US has 50 states Find us here: Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com
Ep 287: The Cartesian Crisis
2026/07/16
Matt and Michael wrestle with a question that has been hanging over both of them. Why have they stopped paying attention to the news? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? They land on the idea of a Cartesian crisis. Nobody trusts anything anymore. Every headline is met with an actually from someone who thinks they have the real truth. They explore how skepticism can lead to nihilism or to wisdom, and why character assassination has replaced actual argument. Then things get interesting. The conversation turns to what it means to truly love someone versus simply labeling them, why we have lost the definition of racism, and how dress codes and tattoos are really just signals we send to the world about who we want to be. They contrast David Bowie and Bob Dylan as two models of subversion, one grounded and one spinning off into the void. They talk about Jung, individuation, and why growing up means learning to reincorporate what you once rebelled against. And they end with a story about a fake recruiter that captures just how deep the trust crisis really goes. Cheers y'all 🍻 Chapters: [00:00] Opening Banter [02:03] The Cartesian Crisis [04:57] The Actually People [09:57] Skepticism and Nihilism [14:32] What Is Racism Anymore [23:52] The Ark of the Covenant [27:41] Love vs Labeling [35:32] Dress Codes and Stereotypes [45:21] Show Up and Speak Up [47:16] Jung and Individuation [49:42] Bowie vs Dylan [54:33] Be Confident Not a Dick [60:04] Getting More Conservative [65:38] The Recruiter Scam [69:47] Joe Biden's Book [74:03] God Is Who He Says He Is [78:48] Outro Find us here: Shores of Ignorance — https://shoresofignorance.com x.com/mattmccloskey x.com/michaelvaclav All Matt's Links — https://solo.to/mattmccloskey All Michael's Links — https://solo.to/michaelvaclav Sovereign Goods — https://sovereigngoods.shop Cafe Medici — https://mediciroasting.com

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