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2019/07/03
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2026/10/30
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At a time when our nation is portrayed as increasingly polarized, media often ignore viewpoints and stories that are worthy of attention. American Thought Leaders, hosted by The Epoch Times Senior Editor Jan Jekielek, features in-depth discussions with some of America’s most influential thought leaders on pertinent issues facing our nation today.
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The Iran War, China’s Gas Station, and Hidden Links to Riots in France | Richard Miniter
2026/10/30
“When you see the recent riots, destruction of stores, looting, burning [of] historic buildings, including churches ... you have to realize these things do not happen spontaneously,” says investigative journalist and bestselling author Richard Miniter.
What is the link between what’s unfolding on the streets of France and the Iranian regime?
Why might Iran be interested in influencing events in Europe—and is there a broader connection to the Iran war?
And what is U.S. President Donald Trump’s end game for the region?
“What hasn’t been explained—and is non-obvious to the American public—is that Iran is the gas station of Xi Jinping,” Miniter says. “What’s going on in Iran is designed to prevent a war off the coast of China in Taiwan.”
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
How We Freed 115 Americans Without Paying Ransoms | Sebastian Gorka
2026/10/27
115 Americans held hostage or wrongfully detained have been brought home in the last 20 months—with zero ransoms paid—said Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Donald Trump and senior director for counterterrorism at the National Security Council.
In this episode, Gorka takes us inside high-stakes hostage rescues, negotiation efforts, and the Trump administration’s strategy to go after radical jihadism and left-wing terrorism.
In this episode, we dive into:
A late-night mission to Kabul to meet top Taliban officials.The hostage cases Gorka sees as the most difficult.How many Americans are still being held hostage overseas.The single largest counterterrorism operation since 9/11.How terrorism threats have evolved since 9/11.The State Department’s new China wrongful detention advisory and what Americans should know before traveling.How the administration is targeting money flows to left-wing terrorism.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
The Case for Raw Milk, Local Meat, and a Homesteading Revolution in America | Drs. Jill and Robert Malone
2026/10/24
Modern industrial agriculture relies on heavy chemical inputs and is built around corporate monopolies, leaving many Americans searching for healthier alternatives, say Drs. Robert and Jill Malone.
They’re co-authors of the new book, “Homesteading for Health: One Farm Family’s Guide to Food, Land, and Self-Sufficiency.” They argue that true food security and health may begin in our own backyards.
Modern homesteading is not a backward-looking lifestyle, they say, but instead a forward-thinking movement aimed at restoring physical health, mental well-being, and intentional community through self-reliance and real food.
The Malones walk me through a host of questions: Can young families, in practice, choose homesteading over suburban life? What are the virtues of raw milk? Why are niche markets and diversifying a small farm’s income stream critical? And what practices may ultimately lead to healthier food for Americans?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Inside the Amish’s Battle Against Crippling New York Vaccine Fines | Aaron Siri
2026/10/23
In 2022, New York fined three private Amish schoolhouses $118,000 in combined fines for allowing unvaccinated children to attend. This came after New York repealed its longstanding religious exemptions for school vaccination requirements in 2019.
New York law allows the state to fine a school up to $2,000 per student per day for noncompliance, which could add up to multi-million-dollar fines for a single school year.
In response, the Amish school administrators and parents filed suit against the state, arguing that compulsory vaccination violated their First Amendment rights and the parental right to direct the upbringing and education of children.
Now, Miller v. McDonald is on its second appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.
In this episode, Aaron Siri, managing partner at Siri & Glimstad LLP, breaks down the profound implications of this case.
“If we can’t protect the Amish, if we can’t protect their religious freedom in the United States of America under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, then,” Siri said, “it really is concerning as to what real reach, almost if any, that right has.”
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Former DIA Chief Reveals China’s Playbook for Stealing American IP, from Tesla to Coca-Cola to F-35s | David Shedd
2026/10/21
From security dossiers and advanced aerospace stealth designs to the mundane technology in your living room, virtually no sector of the American economy has remained untouched by the Chinese Communist Party’s intellectual property theft campaign.
In this interview, The Epoch Times senior editor Jan Jekielek sits down with David Shedd, former acting director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and co-author of “The Great Heist: China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets.”
Shedd describes how China’s economic growth over the past 25 years was bolstered by stealing American intellectual property, technology, data, and know-how.
Crucially, Shedd warns that this campaign extends beyond corporate espionage. No target is too small in the CCP’s eyes if it can benefit the Party, he argues.
Shedd addresses a host of questions: How does China’s civilian-military fusion strategy turn its citizens into spies on demand? What are some major instances of China stealing information from the United States? What are the implications for national security? And how can American citizens defend themselves against theft?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Dr. Phil on UFOs, Government Secrecy, and His Search for Proof
2026/10/17
What does the U.S. government actually know about UFOs or unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs), and what aren’t they telling us? Have non-human intelligences visited Earth already? And what do we know about them?
There are few people who have interrogated the facts around UAPs as carefully as Dr. Phil. He and his team were given exclusive, early access by President Donald Trump to confidential files on these mysterious objects.
“The one thing that I know and can confirm without question is that our government has been lying to us for 79 years. They’ve been telling us that they have no evidence; [that] they have nothing that is unexplainable; that there’s not anything in their files that suggests that there might be something suggestive of non-human intelligence … that’s a lie,” he says.
“We’re talking about people that are admirals, generals, experienced lifetime pilots … seeing anomalous aerial phenomena that are doing things that our aircraft can’t do. They’re flying at speeds we can’t fly, doing maneuvers that would create G-forces we can’t sustain, or that our aircraft would come apart,” he says.
“And some of these have no visible signs of propulsion. Some of them don’t have heat signatures,” he continues.
In this episode, Dr. Phil reveals what he and his team have uncovered.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Texas Gov. Abbott on Future of Border Security, Data Centers, and Ending Foreign Infiltration
2026/10/16
In this episode, I sit down with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott. He’s the longest-serving sitting governor, having spent 11 years in office, and is running for reelection this November.
Abbott has made some major policy bets in America’s second-most-populous state. Last year, he signed a large-scale $1 billion school voucher program after years of effort pushing it through the legislature. Now he wants to eliminate school district property taxes for homeowners by covering the costs with the state’s surplus.
Abbott has also made countering foreign infiltration a priority, from effectively barring individuals and companies linked to China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea from buying Texas land to setting up a state cyber command to guard critical infrastructure.
We discuss: How can Texas eliminate school property taxes sustainably? What are the plans for the $7.5 billion reimbursement from the Department of Homeland Security for border security costs? And why did Abbott recently put a pause on data center development in Texas?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
How a Vague Provision of Human Trafficking Law Is Threatening Religious Communities | John Lauro
2026/10/14
A 2008 update to the landmark Trafficking Victims Protection Act (TVPA) is increasingly being used to target religious communities, says attorney John Lauro, and raising red flags for experts in constitutional law.
The definition of the term “serious harm” in the statute was altered to include psychological and other non-physical harms.
And in recent years, “that provision has been weaponized by plaintiffs’ lawyers,” Lauro says.
This could affect the many religious communities that involve members voluntarily giving their time or money to religious causes; some of whom may later become disillusioned.
“This statute … is like a dagger pointed at the soul of every voluntary religious community in the United States,” Lauro says.
An advocate for religious freedom, Lauro has worked as a criminal and civil defense attorney for decades.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Here’s How Superintelligent AI Could Escape Human Control | Nate Soares
2026/10/10
Nate Soares is the president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute and co-author of “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All.”
“One of the critical thresholds here is this point where the AIs exceed the humans at fully automated AI research—or at closed-loop AI research—because that’s where you could start having a machine intelligence that makes a smarter machine intelligence that makes a smarter machine intelligence,” Soares said.
This is called recursive self-improvement, and this is where things could quickly get out of hand, Soares added.
Recent incidents involving rogue AI swarms breaking out of testing environments to hack other companies and even targeting U.S. government websites have made many worried.
“Right now, we are in this window where we can see the AI is misbehaving, and we don’t know how long that window lasts. … If suddenly they all start to seem to behave, it’s going to be hard to tell: is that because we fixed it? Or is that because they started getting good at deception?” Soares says.
In this, my second episode of our special series on AI—or super intelligence as the Trump administration is calling it—Soares unpacks how he believes the United States could shift its development pathway to avoid a possible runaway system. Is it even possible to do so while maintaining a strong competitive edge over communist China?
Soares points out that China is not known for pioneering frontier AI. Instead, China’s AI development relies heavily on “distillation”—namely, obtaining and compressing American AI models onto fewer chips for a fraction of the cost.
“If we never make the trillion-dollar AI, they can’t spend $100 billion stealing it,” Soares argues.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
Peter Navarro: ‘The Biggest Coverup in Medical History’
2026/10/09
Six years since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, we are still uncovering what was really happening behind closed doors.
“What [Dr. Anthony Fauci] says many times privately in his diary is so at odds with both his public behavior and public statements,” says Peter Navarro, a senior White House adviser and author of the new book “Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison.”
What do Fauci’s private notes reveal about the suppression of the lab leak theory? And why did Fauci initially support exploring hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19 and later change his mind?
Fauci did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
EXCLUSIVE: AG Blanche on DOJ Strategy to Combat Voter Fraud, Birth Tourism, and Chinese Espionage
2026/10/07
In this episode, I sit down with U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanche to discuss the Department of Justice’s latest work to combat voting and registration fraud, Chinese espionage, weaponization of the justice system, and scam centers across southeast Asia.
With the Supreme Court rejecting the administration’s executive order on birthright citizenship and its emergency request related to mail-in ballots, what is the DOJ’s strategy moving forward?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
How a California Bill Lets Sex Offenders Into Women’s Prisons | Amie Ichikawa
2026/10/03
It’s been over five years since a California law came into effect that allows biological males to be sent to women’s prisons if they identify as transgender. The law has no requirement for diagnosis, hormones, or surgery.
Called the Transgender Respect, Agency, and Dignity Act, the law is being exploited by male predators and sex offenders, alleges Amie Ichikawa, an advocate for female inmates.
“The first busload of men got to the Central California Women’s Facility,” Amie Ichikawa recounts, “it was scary. It was terrifying. 33.8 percent are registered sex offenders. I can’t think of any worse demographic of people to send into the women’s prison.”
Amie Ichikawa, a former inmate herself who served five years for kidnapping and assault with a deadly weapon, is now the founder and executive director of Woman II Woman. The nonprofit provides legal resources, education, and re-entry support to women in prison. Ichikawa is now also an ambassador at Independent Women and Independent Women’s Voice.
In this episode, Ichikawa unpacks the consequences of allowing males into women’s facilities.
How has it profoundly changed the dynamic at these prisons? Why was legislation to exclude registered sex offenders from transfers rejected? Why does she believe some men are exploiting this as a loophole to escape maximum-security male facilities? And why is there a rise in prison clinicians encouraging female inmates to take cross-sex hormones?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
A Mathematical Challenge to Darwinian Evolution | Douglas Axe
2026/10/02
Modern biology often presents Darwinian evolution as a settled explanation for the origin and diversity of life.
Douglas Axe is chair of molecular biology at Biola University and author of “Undeniable: How Biology Confirms Our Intuition That Life Is Designed.”
In this episode, he argues that when you look at the mathematical probabilities that undergird molecular genetics, there are hard limits that random mutation and natural selection cannot overcome.
Notably, Axe does not deny the existence of natural selection. Indeed, he argues that minor adaptations—such as virus mutations or dog breed variations—are well established. But can random mutation and selection explain the origin of complex, functional biological systems when the odds of forming a single functional protein fold are a staggering 1 in 10?
We explore various questions: If random processes cannot generate complex biological systems, what does that reveal about the origin of life? Why do children intuitively believe that the natural world was intentionally created? And why is the scientific community comfortable searching for intelligence in deep space through the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI), yet resistant to detecting it in the origins of biological life?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
How to Identify a Bad Argument | Warren Smith
2026/09/30
Modern culture often treats popular consensus and media narratives as settled truth. Warren Smith, author of the new book “A Mind of Your Own: Independent Thinking in the Age of Misinformation,” argues that our society is increasingly convinced by misleading narratives rather than objective reality.
He is the creator of the Secret Scholars Society channel on YouTube, and he’s become known for using the Socratic method to introduce people to different viewpoints.
He argues that allowing ideas to conflict is essential to intellectual growth.
“We recoil often from conflict,” he said, “but that’s where growth occurs.”
Smith walked me through a host of questions: How do narrative manipulation and herd psychology compel people to abandon logic? How can one learn to identify fallacious arguments? And why does our culture so easily mistake emotional consensus for moral authority?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
EXCLUSIVE: Tom Homan Reveals Next Targets and How Many Missing Immigrant Children Have Been Found
2026/09/26
In this episode, I’m sitting down with Tom Homan. A career law enforcement officer, he’s served as a cop, border patrol agent, federal investigator, and acting ICE chief, and worked under six presidents from both sides of the aisle.
Now as the White House border czar, he’s facilitating the most aggressive transformation of immigration enforcement that America has ever seen.
Monthly deportations have hit record highs. Enforcement officers are prioritizing high-risk offenders, with over 60 percent of arrests involving individuals with criminal convictions or active felony charges, Homan says.
And the pushback has been fierce. Homan says assaults on ICE officers are up 1,600 percent. Threats are up 6,000 percent.
We discuss: What new initiatives or priorities can we expect to see in the coming weeks and months? How is the Trump administration dealing with nationwide court injunctions? How is the administration approaching a major China-related loophole on one of its island territories? And how many unaccompanied minors that were unaccounted for in the system have since been found? How many were sex trafficked or used as forced labor?
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
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pistachiokarma 2026/07/01
Matt Ridley, Not New
THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI by RFK Jr had the truth about the lab, virus, vaccine, etc etc very early (2021) and much more information. I recommend it to t...
makesmymusic 2026/04/17
American Thought Leaders
Great in-depth interviews. The best. Always excellent topics on items both current and below the radar. Very pertinent. Thanks.
gramaree 2026/03/30
Thanks, Jan!
Always interesting interviews! Thanks, Jan, for doing such a great job asking good questions and letting your guests give their answers without cuttin...
robione_1 2026/02/22
Riveting!
Great interviews with easily digestible, though shocking at times, content. (Just wish I could pronounce the interviewers name.)🤷🏼♂️
875HanMarJack 2026/02/14
Missing episode
I also want to report the missing Alzheimer’s research episode. The transgender medicine episode got substituted for this one by mistake.
Cathark 2026/01/31
Missing Episode
The episode that is labeled to be an interview of Lou Reese about Alzheimer’s is a repeat of the episode on transgender medicine.
Lololovesskiing 2025/12/12
Anti true thoughts
bad podcast hyping up the destruction of science
Godroxme 2025/11/03
Very Nice Addition
I am so appreciative that you have brought ATL to an audio podcast format. I simply could not afford the time to sit at a monitor and watch a video fo...
LA Zorro 2025/08/17
Santiago Peña
Great interview, Gordon Chang is so informative and spot on as to his view of China’s intention of destroying America and our corrupt politicians cont...
Pedrobud1 2025/07/31
American Thought Leaders
Excellent show. Jan is very well informed and his interviews are in depth and educates listeners better than other podcasters. I listen to a lot of d...
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