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It's no secret that a large majority of contractors are too busy working "IN" their business instead of "ON" their business. As a 3rd generation painter, I've first-hand witnessed the struggle of a contractor (my father) as he attempted to manage all aspects of his House Painting Business while still painting and performing the jobs. My passion is to free contractors from the chains of their own business, and truly help them achieve greatness through creating systems, processes, and standards...TUNE IN! Follow @OfficialTannerMullen on Instagram!
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Stronghold Audiobook: Day 25-31
2026/11/05
What's up good people! As some of you may know, the 31-Days of Value challenge was born on this podcast. Since then, it's evolved into a new vision - Stronghold. New name, new vision, same powerful content. Here's the first 7 days of the audiobook - listen one day at a time - implement the ONE action - don't miss a day.
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Stronghold Audio Book: Day 16-24
2026/10/29
What's up good people! As some of you may know, the 31-Days of Value challenge was born on this podcast. Since then, it's evolved into a new vision - Stronghold. New name, new vision, same powerful content. Here's the first 7 days of the audiobook - listen one day at a time - implement the ONE action - don't miss a day.
If you want to read along, grab the Kindle version here
From $0 to 200+ Clients: How He Built a Marketing Empire | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Lucas Jensen)
2026/10/29
How do you go from ZERO clients to building a marketing agency serving 200+ businesses? In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Tanner Mullen sits down with Lucas Jensen, founder and CEO of Forward Media Marketing, to break down how he built his agency, generated massive results with Facebook ads, and helped painting contractors grow their businesses.
Lucas started his marketing agency in his parents' basement in 2020, struggling for five months without landing a single client. After borrowing $500 from his dad to register the business, he eventually signed his first painting contractor for $597.
That first client changed everything.
With just $2,500 in Facebook ad spend over four months, Lucas helped that contractor generate nearly $200,000 in sales. That success opened the door to more painting businesses, eventually helping Forward Media Marketing grow into an agency serving over 200 companies.
In this conversation, Tanner and Lucas discuss what it really takes to build a successful marketing agency, how Facebook advertising can help painting contractors generate leads, and why curiosity, innovation, and strong relationships are essential for long-term business growth.
They also dive into PaintCon 2026, a major networking and educational event for painting contractors, and share how surrounding yourself with successful business owners can completely change your perspective on what's possible.
Facebook Ads can be a powerful marketing tool for painting contractors looking to generate leads and grow their businesses.
Lucas Jensen shares how his first painting contractor client generated nearly $200K in sales with a $2,500 Facebook advertising investment.
Join Lucas Jensen, Tanner Mullen, and other industry leaders at PaintCon 2026 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
📅 November 18–22, 2026
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**CHAPTERS:**
00:00 – Lucas Jensen's Marketing Agency Success Story
01:27 – Tanner Mullen Introduces Lucas Jensen
04:14 – How Forward Media Marketing Started
09:14 – How Lucas Landed His First Painting Contractor
12:41 – $2,500 in Facebook Ads Generated Nearly $200K
14:56 – Scaling a Painting Contractor Marketing Agency
16:31 – The Facebook Video Ad That Changed Everything
18:28 – Growing a Marketing Agency to 200+ Clients
20:05 – Why Marketing Innovation Matters
23:14 – What Is PaintCon?
26:10 – How a Painting Contractor Grew From $800K to $5M
31:18 – PaintCon Speakers and Business Networking
34:56 – PaintCon 2026 Event Details
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Stronghold Audio Book: Day 8-15
2026/10/22
What's up good people! As some of you may know, the 31-Days of Value challenge was born on this podcast. Since then, it's evolved into a new vision - Stronghold. New name, new vision, same powerful content. Here's the first 7 days of the audiobook - listen one day at a time - implement the ONE action - don't miss a day.
If you want to read along, grab the Kindle version here
How His Painting Business Made $300K Without Him | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Justin Georgopoulos)
2026/10/16
How do you build a painting business that runs without you? Justin Georgopoulos explains the systems behind his $6.5M painting company and how his team sold and produced $300,000 while he spent 11 days away in Greece.
In this special episode of Contractor Secrets from the Routemize launch party, Tanner Mullen welcomes Justin Georgopoulos, founder of High Five Painting (formerly 519 Painters) and Trade Launch.
Justin breaks down how he built a painting company where he no longer needs to personally handle estimates, customer calls, project management or payroll.
Instead, his business operates through four key departments:
→ MARKETING: Consistent inbound and outbound lead generation
→ CUSTOMER SERVICE: Dedicated appointment setters, fast responses and structured follow-up
→ SALES: Trained closers, commission-based incentives and profitable pricing
→ OPERATIONS: Project managers, production handoffs, crew scheduling and accountability
We also cover:
How his team handled $300K in business while he was away
The structure behind a $6.5M painting company
How they generate approximately 100 estimates per week
Their 10-call follow-up cadence over three days
How they structure and compensate sales reps
Their 60–70% gross profit pricing targets
How AI helps match painting crews with the right projects
The organizational chart behind the operation
Why profit matters more than revenue
How to get off the tools and stop being the bottleneck
Justin also shares examples of how other painting contractors have implemented these systems through Trade Launch.
The takeaway: Growing your painting business shouldn't mean creating a bigger job for yourself.
Build the team. Build the systems. Create a business that can operate without you.
🎙️ Contractor Secrets with Tanner Mullen
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Stronghold Audio Book: Day 1-7
2026/10/15
What's up good people! As some of you may know, the 31-Days of Value challenge was born on this podcast. Since then, it's evolved into a new vision - Stronghold. New name, new vision, same powerful content. Here's the first 7 days of the audiobook - listen one day at a time - implement the ONE action - don't miss a day.
If you want to read along, grab the Kindle version here
The Truth About Getting Comfortable in Business | Contractor Secrets
2026/10/06
Getting comfortable in business can be more dangerous than failure. In this episode, Tanner Mullen explains why business owners start playing small after they've finally built something worth protecting.
When I started my painting business, I knew almost nothing.
I was hungry.
I asked questions.
I took risks.
I figured things out as I went.
And that's what I've been reflecting on lately.
Because there's an interesting thing that happens as your business grows:
You finally have something to lose.
The same person who was willing to risk everything to start the business can slowly become afraid to make the decisions required to keep growing it.
In this episode, I get into:
→ Why getting comfortable in business can be dangerous
→ Why business owners start playing small
→ Remembering who you were when you started
→ Scarcity vs. service
→ Purpose over profit
→ Why your “why” matters when things get hard
→ Walking away from an $80K job
→ Starting a painting business with my father
→ Why your business was born from risk
→ Learning to operate in uncertainty
→ Why the nature of business is constant change
→ Making bold investments and decisions
→ The responsibility that comes with leadership
→ Building a business that can keep promises without you
→ Putting service ahead of self-preservation
→ Preparing your business before the next storm arrives
CHAPTERS:
00:00 A Different Contractor Secrets Episode
01:45 Looking Back 10 Years
03:19 Purpose Over Profit
04:32 Scarcity vs. Service
05:35 Why Your “Why” Changes Everything
07:20 The Reason I Started My Painting Business
09:07 Walking Away From the Safe Path
11:06 Remember Who You Were When You Started
12:17 Faith Requires Action
13:13 Why Business Owners Stop Taking Risks
14:03 Business Is Always Changing
15:24 The Pressure of Leadership
16:49 Where Are You Playing Small?
17:27 The Danger of Getting Comfortable
18:40 Learning to Thrive in Uncertainty
19:45 Make the Bold Decision
21:33 Prepare Before the Storm Comes
22:58 Stop Making It About You
24:24 Operate With a Servant Mindset
25:13 Business Is Bigger Than You
Your business was born from risk.
You believed you could create something that didn't exist yet — and you acted on it.
Don't let having something to lose make you afraid to keep moving forward.
Don't get comfortable.
Don't play small.
Remember why you started.
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The Biggest Lead Leak in Your Painting Business | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Katie Simons)
2026/10/02
Painting contractors spend thousands generating leads — but how many painting leads are lost because nobody answers the phone, follows up, or properly manages the sales pipeline?
In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Tanner sits down with Katie from Tech Brush Works to break down one of the most overlooked parts of growing a painting business: what happens AFTER the lead comes in.
Answering the phone isn't just an administrative job.
It's part of your sales process.
Katie explains how her team helps painting contractors answer calls, follow up with leads, organize their CRM, revive old opportunities and create a better customer experience before the estimator ever walks through the door.
We cover:
→ Why answering the phone is a sales function
→ The hidden cost of missed painting leads
→ Why old leads aren't necessarily dead
→ How to systematically follow up by phone, text and email
→ Why your CRM should tell you what's happening in under a minute
→ Turning cold leads back into appointments
→ Why contractors shouldn't be answering every call themselves
→ The difference between answering calls and creating a customer experience
→ When overseas VAs make sense — and where Katie sees limitations
→ Why premium painting companies need a premium customer experience
→ Getting your business phone off your personal cell
→ Delegating the phone without losing control
→ How better follow-up gives contractors their time back
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Why Answering the Phone Matters
01:19 Meet Katie
01:58 From Corporate Customer Experience to Painting
03:38 The Gap Katie Found in the Painting Industry
05:02 Customer Experience as a Service
06:06 Fixing the CRM & Reviving Cold Leads
08:59 How Homeowners Prefer to Communicate
09:39 Your Pipeline Is Gold
10:33 Reviving Months-Old Leads
12:44 Why Old Leads Aren't Dead
15:18 Stop Letting Leads Slip Through the Cracks
16:20 Who's Answering Your Phone?
17:32 Overseas VAs vs. Customer Experience
20:08 Why Communication Matters
21:35 What Premium Brands Get Right
22:53 The Experience Has to Match the Price
23:39 Who Should Manage Your Phones?
24:58 How Outsourced Phone Answering Works
26:36 Get Your Business Off Your Personal Cell
27:15 Tanner's Biggest Phone Breakthrough
28:02 Getting Your Time Back
29:14 The CEO Shouldn't Manage the Phones
30:45 How to Work With Katie
The big takeaway:
Generating the lead is only the beginning.
If nobody answers quickly, follows up consistently and creates a great first impression, you're potentially wasting opportunities you've already paid to generate.
Build the system.
Work the pipeline.
Create a great customer experience.
And get the phone off your plate.
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The Mindset Holding You Back | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Joel Mercado)
2026/09/29
Your painting contractor mindset could be the biggest thing holding your business back. Joel Mercado breaks down the limiting beliefs, leadership habits and systems that keep painting contractors stuck.
In this special episode of Contractor Secrets from the Routemize launch party, Joel explains why changing your business often starts with changing the way you think.
From struggling to make payroll to building multiple businesses, Joel shares the mindset shifts that helped him stop focusing on what couldn't be done and start taking action on what could.
We cover:
→ Fixed mindset vs. growth mindset
→ The limiting beliefs keeping contractors stuck
→ Why higher prices can mean fewer headaches
→ Transferring your skills to your employees
→ Why you shouldn't try to fix everything at once
→ Focusing on one problem for 30 days
→ Why expanding too quickly can hurt your business
→ Motivation vs. discipline
→ How to scale from $1M toward $5M
→ Why people and systems need to come before growth
→ Developing better leaders
→ Why self-leadership comes first
→ Getting 1% better every day
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Routemize Launch Party
01:27 Meet Joel Mercado
02:24 Fixed vs. Growth Mindset
03:35 From Nearly Losing a House to $2.5M
05:31 Destroying Your Limiting Beliefs
06:53 Empower Your Employees to Sell
08:21 Stop Competing on Price
10:13 Don't Expand Too Quickly
11:33 Focus on One Thing
13:13 How to Stop Feeling Overwhelmed
14:04 Get 1% Better Every Day
16:55 Why It's Easier to Win Today
19:24 How Joel Pushed Through the Struggle
21:26 Motivation Is Temporary
22:10 Discipline & Consistency Win
22:43 How to Scale From $1M to $5M
24:25 Leadership Starts With You
25:48 The Law of the Lid
27:43 Become a Student for Life
28:48 Final Message
The biggest takeaway:
Your business can't consistently grow beyond your ability to lead it.
Change the way you think.
Focus on one thing.
Develop your people.
Build the systems.
Stay disciplined.
Then grow.
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He Was Ready to Quit His Business… Here’s What I Told Him | Contractor Secrets
2026/09/24
After 4 years running a remodeling business, Joe Altobelli is spread thin, worn down, dealing with slow cash flow, and considering going back to work for someone else.
In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Tanner sits down with Joe and breaks down what he would change if he were rebuilding Joe’s business from the ground up.
The biggest recommendation?
Simplify.
Instead of trying to sell and fulfill every type of remodeling project, Tanner makes the case for niching down into residential painting and building a business around one repeatable service.
They break down:
→ Why general remodeling can be incredibly difficult to systemize
→ The advantage of specializing in one service
→ Why repetition creates better systems
→ Sales, marketing, production & administration
→ Why painting can create a faster iteration cycle
→ How Joe could transition into painting
→ Using subcontractors when you're getting started
→ Why the owner doesn't need to do the painting
→ Building a business around your strengths
→ Creating predictable marketing and sales
→ How specialization makes training easier
→ Why focus matters when you're trying to build momentum
→ Tanner's “burn the boats” approach
→ Building a business around the life you actually want
CHAPTERS:
00:00 “I’m Considering Working for Someone Again”
01:14 Meet Joe Altobelli
03:51 Why Joe Is Burned Out
05:50 The Problem With General Remodeling
08:09 You’re Not Starting From Zero
09:08 Why Niching Down Matters
10:11 The 4 Pillars of a Business
11:11 Why Tanner Recommends Painting
12:03 The Simple Painting Business Playbook
12:59 Can Painting Work in a Cold Climate?
13:55 You Don’t Need to Do the Painting
15:09 Why Specialization Makes Marketing Easier
17:00 Building a Repeatable Business
21:56 Starting With Subcontractors
24:53 Joe’s Bigger Reason for Building a Business
28:27 Fear, Risk & Starting Over
33:39 Turning Fear Into Action
34:58 Should Joe Keep Taking Remodeling Jobs?
35:17 Why Tanner Says “Burn the Boats”
37:35 Final Advice
Joe has already spent four years learning how to work with homeowners, sell projects, manage construction and deliver great customer experiences.
The question isn't whether he has to start over.
It's whether simplifying the business could finally allow him to use everything he's already learned.
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Why More Leads Won’t Fix Your Painting Business | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Jason Phillips)
2026/09/21
Painting contractors don't always need more leads — they need a better sales process. Jason Phillips explains how closing more painting estimates at higher margins can completely change the economics of your painting business.
In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Jason breaks down why constantly spending more money on painting leads can actually hide the real problem in your business.
If you're already generating opportunities but homeowners are ghosting you, shopping your price, saying “we need to think about it,” or simply not closing — generating MORE leads won't solve the problem.
You need to fix sales first.
We cover:
→ Why more leads won't fix a sales problem
→ How to make more money from the leads you already have
→ Why customers default to price when they can't see the difference
→ How sales affects gross profit
→ Revenue vs. gross profit
→ How better sales can fund your team and systems
→ Why your sales process needs to be repeatable and trainable
→ How to set better appointments
→ Why you should show up to serve instead of sell
→ The three costs every homeowner should understand
→ Building your quote around what the homeowner actually values
→ Why Jason recommends presenting your quote instead of emailing it
→ Presenting payment options alongside the price
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Routemize Launch Party
01:27 Meet Jason
02:07 Why Sales Is the First Thing to Fix
03:00 The Problem With Chasing More Leads
05:26 Why Sales Changes Everything
06:32 Make More From the Leads You Already Have
07:41 Stop Competing on Price
09:18 Sales Pays for Everything Else
10:49 Why Gross Profit Creates Freedom
11:57 The Math Behind Better Sales
15:09 Are You Building a Business or a Job?
15:40 Fix Sales → Build Team → Build Systems
16:29 Real-World Painting Business Results
18:39 What Does “Selling Better” Actually Mean?
20:10 7 Practical Sales Tips
20:17 #1 Set a Better Appointment
21:47 #2 Show Up to Serve
22:59 #3 Explain the Three Costs
23:29 #4 Build the Quote Around Their Values
23:59 Present Your Price Under the Right Conditions
24:32 Present Payment Options
25:20 Put the Customer Before the Commission
26:08 Fix Sales and Get Your Life Back
The big idea: you don't necessarily need more opportunities. You need to get better at converting the opportunities you've already paid for.
Fix your sales. Build your team. Build your systems. Get your life back.
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The Painting Lead Strategy That Changes Everything | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Jacob Ransom)
2026/09/16
Painting contractor leads aren't automatically good or bad because they came from Facebook, Instagram, or another lead source. Jacob Ransom breaks down the painting lead strategy he uses to turn cold traffic into referral-quality opportunities.
In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Tanner sits down with Jacob, founder of Monumental Growth and owner of a multi-location painting company, to break down his “Trust Stacking” system.
The idea is simple: lead quality isn't determined by where the lead came from — it's determined by how much the homeowner trusts you when they reach out.
Jacob breaks the system into three pillars:
→ MAKE YOURSELF VISIBLE
Show up consistently where your ideal homeowners spend their time.
→ MAKE IT EASY
Remove friction with fast responses, flexible availability, texting, Messenger, and online self-booking.
→ MAKE IT REAL
Use real people, reviews, authentic content, and raw videos to build trust before the estimate.
We also cover:
→ Why “bad Facebook leads” may actually be a trust problem
→ Why price objections can be trust objections
→ How convenience can attract better customers
→ Why being first through the door matters
→ Evening and weekend estimate availability
→ Why your intake process could be filtering out your best customers
→ Raw phone videos vs. polished advertising
→ How Jacob approaches keeping marketing costs low enough to scale
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Routemize Launch Party
01:27 Meet Jacob Ransom
02:16 Why Some Painting Companies Scale So Fast
05:00 The “Trust Recession”
07:10 Price Objections vs. Trust
09:06 What Actually Determines Lead Quality?
09:56 Turning Cold Leads Into Referral-Quality Leads
10:46 The 3 Pillars of Trust Stacking
11:44 Pillar #1: Make Yourself Visible
14:33 How Much Marketing Activity Is Enough?
17:19 Pillar #2: Make It Easy
18:29 Why Online Booking Matters
19:32 Jacob’s Self-Booking Results
22:08 Evening & Weekend Appointments
24:38 Why Being First Through the Door Matters
26:07 Convenience Attracts Better Customers
27:34 How Friction Filters Your Customers
28:55 Stop Making It Hard to Hire You
29:33 Pillar #3: Make It Real
30:47 A Better Way to Use Google Reviews
31:22 Raw Content vs. Polished Ads
34:25 Putting the Full System Together
37:15 How Lower Marketing Costs Enable Scale
38:37 Jacob’s Trust Stacking SOP
If you're a painting contractor struggling with inconsistent or low-quality leads, this episode will change the way you think about lead generation.
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The Marketing Strategy Most Painting Contractors Ignore | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Glenn Williamson)
2026/09/14
Painting contractor marketing isn't just Facebook Ads, Google Ads, and generating more leads. Glenn Williamson explains why building local brand and trust is one of the most overlooked marketing strategies for painting contractors.
Glenn is a painting contractor on track for $8M this year, and in this episode he breaks down the strategies his company uses to become known and trusted in its local market.
We cover:
→ Why relying entirely on paid leads is dangerous
→ Building trust through community involvement
→ Yard sign and charity campaigns
→ Vehicle wraps and local branding
→ Facebook groups and referral partners
→ Building a network of trusted local contractors
→ Using your brand to increase trust during the sales process
→ A completely different approach to door hangers
→ Turning community involvement into content for Google, YouTube, and AI
The big idea: paid ads can generate leads today, but brand and trust give you something your competitors can't simply outbid you for.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Meet Glenn Williamson
00:32 Building an $8M Painting Company
03:44 Why Contractors Undervalue Brand & Trust
04:58 Do You Own Demand or Rent Leads?
06:42 Do Facebook & Google Ads Build a Brand?
08:06 Community Marketing That Actually Builds Trust
10:15 Charity & Local Event Strategies
13:41 Facebook Groups & Referral Partners
15:08 How Brand Helps Close the Sale
17:08 Building a Local Contractor Network
18:43 A Better Door Hanger Strategy
21:02 Why Trust Compounds Over Time
21:55 Building Trust for Google, YouTube & AI
22:48 How to Find Glenn
If you're building a painting company and want to become the contractor people already know and trust before they ever request an estimate, this episode is for you.
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If I Started a Painting Business From $0, I’d Do This... | Contractor Secrets Business Breakthrough
2026/09/09
How to start a painting business, get painting leads, win your first jobs, and grow without a huge marketing budget — Tanner Mullen breaks down what he would do starting a painting company from scratch.
Lauren recently launched Wild Grain Painting and joins Tanner for a Business Breakthrough session to figure out exactly what she should focus on next.
They cover everything from positioning and sales to organic marketing, reviews, Facebook Ads, hiring painters, and getting off the tools.
In this episode, you'll learn:
• How to look more professional on estimates
• Why perceived value matters when you're brand new
• How to use your personal story to differentiate your company
• How to find your company's real value proposition
• How to generate leads when you have almost no marketing budget
• How Tanner would use local Facebook groups
• Why every new painting company needs reviews
• When to start investing in Facebook Ads
• Why you shouldn't wait to build your CRM
• How to avoid getting trapped doing all the painting yourself
• How to sell the job first and find production second
• What Tanner would do if he started over from $0
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Starting a Painting Business
01:18 Meet Lauren & Wild Grain Painting
02:27 What Should the Owner Actually Do?
04:13 Building Confidence as a New Contractor
05:18 Look Like a Professional Estimator
06:03 Perceived Value Matters
07:46 Lauren's First Commercial Estimate
08:39 Avoiding the Commercial & GC Trap
09:39 Marketing With Almost No Money
10:23 Your Biggest Competitive Advantage
11:30 Building a Story People Care About
14:17 What Makes Your Company Different?
17:28 Turning Your Story Into Marketing
19:55 Get Clear on the Mission
20:20 Why Marketing Means Being "Annoying"
20:48 Free Local Facebook Marketing
21:51 Build the Systems Before You Need Them
22:09 Setting Up a CRM
22:15 DripJobs Startup Program
23:33 When to Invest in Facebook Ads
24:21 Building Google Reviews
25:27 The Paint Trap
26:13 Why Tanner Wouldn't Pick Up a Paintbrush
27:07 Subcontractors vs Employees
27:57 Where Lauren Should Start
28:18 The Final Game Plan
One of Tanner's biggest lessons:
If you're starting a painting business, your highest-value job may not be painting.
Sell a job.
Schedule it.
Find someone to produce it.
Then go sell another one.
At the beginning, you need to become resourceful.
Tell your story.
Build your reputation.
Get reviews.
Post locally.
Sell.
Build systems.
Then reinvest your profits into marketing.
If you're starting a painting company or trying to get your first consistent painting jobs, this episode gives you a practical roadmap to follow.
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How He Closes 80% of Painting Estimates | Contractor Secrets (Ft. Durant Foote)
2026/09/07
Painting contractor sales, painting estimates, close rates, and in-home sales — Durant breaks down the exact sales process he uses to close roughly 75–80% of his painting estimates.
In this episode of Contractor Secrets, Durant shares how he approaches an estimate from the moment he walks through the door all the way to asking for the business and overcoming objections.
His philosophy is simple:
If you're already in the house, don't just send the customer a quote later.
Build trust, show your expertise, present the proposal, handle the real objection, and try to close the job on the spot.
In this presentation, you'll learn:
• Why Durant gives customers their estimate on the spot
• How to change your mindset before walking into an estimate
• How to build rapport without sounding scripted
• The questions to ask before you start selling
• How to uncover the real reason behind the project
• Why you should lead the customer during the walkthrough
• How to "assume the sale" without being pushy
• How to present your company and proposal
• Why detailed photos can help you close
• How Durant uses same-day incentives
• How to handle "I need more quotes"
• How to handle price objections
• How to handle "I need to talk to my spouse"
• Why "I need to think about it" isn't the real objection
• How to ask for the business confidently
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Routemize Launch Party
01:27 Meet Durant
02:49 Closing Painting Jobs on the Spot
04:30 Why You Should Give the Estimate Immediately
06:00 Change Your State Before the Appointment
07:50 Build a Repeatable Sales Process
09:00 Building Rapport & Asking Better Questions
11:08 Show Up Like an Expert
14:10 The Questions Durant Asks Customers
15:59 Tell Your Story
17:50 Set Expectations & Pre-Close
19:48 Assume the Sale During the Walkthrough
22:00 Building a Detailed Estimate
24:30 Presenting the Proposal
26:00 Finding the Real Objection
28:00 Handling Multiple Quotes
30:07 Handling Price Objections
32:30 Using Incentives Without Killing Margin
33:50 "I Need to Talk to My Spouse"
36:00 "I Need to Think About It"
37:16 Close the Deal Today
38:05 Tanner's Biggest Takeaways
Durant's biggest point is that sales becomes much easier when you stop improvising and build a repeatable process.
Show up sharp.
Ask better questions.
Build trust.
Lead the walkthrough.
Present with confidence.
Find the real objection.
Ask for the business.
If you're a painting contractor looking to improve your close rate, sell more jobs, or build a better in-home sales process, this episode is packed with practical sales training you can use immediately.
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C&V Painting 2025/09/03
Mindset changer
Thank you Tanner! My business and mindset changed by using all your wisdom and complement it by using DripJobs- it’s a game changer! 🔥
quandntodnahfmsnsjfkandjdoak 2022/04/22
Boomnominal
Tune in to mindset Mondays!!!! BOOM!!!
Texkyle 2022/03/28
Crucial lessons for service business
Tanner shares his experience running a painting company and getting himself “off the brush.” He applies that to any small business that provides a se...
RockandRolloc 2022/01/19
My everyday driving podcast!
I am a female painting contractor and business owner in California. I stumbled across Tanner‘s podcast while searching for relatable material about ho...
313mtp137 2021/11/24
I love the insight
Can you speak on methods of UP CHARGING after bids are set
I’m a new business owner and I’m slammed with get in and out jobs… but the set backs and e...
rich_burke 2021/09/30
Motivating and educational
If your just getting started contracting, definitely check out this pod. Tanner is ahead of his time with sales, marketing and his wisdom in the game....
Ben Heuring 2020/12/30
Amazing tips and advice!
This podcast is one of the many great resources Tanner has to offer. He truly makes a seemingly complicated trade simple and effectively provides SOLI...
VM2019 2020/08/18
Insta-Painting - Boca Raton Florida
Amazing advice!! Tanner has been a blessing in our business!! Definitely recommend 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
padlosperfectpainting.com 2020/08/11
You don’t know what you don’t know !
A must subscribe! Tanner knows his stuff, a great podcast to work ON your business, opposed to being a slave to it. Join the trade thrive family and k...
ColorsXChristian 2019/11/26
It’s a no brainer!!!!
I always look for people who are in a position I want to be in. This is your chance to get an a+ mentor. Tanner is a great leader and he’s willing to ...
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