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Special Presidential Speaker Series – Michigan State University Michigan State University launched its Presidential Speaker Series with a wide‑ranging and candid conversation on the role of higher education in sustaining democracy and civil discourse. Held at the Wharton Center and moderated by MSU President Kevin M. Guskiewicz, the event brought together bipartisan leaders from government and higher education to examine how universities can help prepare students to navigate disagreement, practice democratic engagement, and contribute meaningfully to the public good. The evening opened with framing from Ann Austin, University Distinguished Professor in the College of Education, who emphasized the importance of universities as spaces where diverse perspectives meet—and where disagreement, when approached constructively, becomes a powerful tool for learning. President Guskiewicz underscored that today’s college campuses are often the first places where students encounter people with markedly different backgrounds, beliefs, and lived experiences, making higher education a microcosm of American democracy itself. The panel featured three nationally recognized leaders: Richard Burr, former U.S. senator and principal policy advisor at DLA Piper; Ted Mitchell, president of the American Council on Education and former U.S. under secretary of education; and Margaret Spellings, president and CEO of the Bipartisan Policy Center and former U.S. secretary of education. Former Michigan governors Jim Blanchard and John Engler also joined the program, highlighting bipartisan efforts to strengthen trust in democratic institutions. Across the conversation, panelists explored growing public skepticism toward higher education, driven by concerns about affordability, job outcomes, transparency, and perceived political bias. While acknowledging these challenges, speakers emphasized that most students report feeling free to express their views—and that universities remain among the few institutions designed specifically to foster open inquiry and debate. A recurring theme was balance: between higher education’s public mission and individual return on investment; between academic autonomy and accountability; and between preparing students for employment and preparing them for citizenship. Panelists stressed that employability and civic education are not competing goals, but mutually reinforcing ones—arguing that student success, transparency in admissions and financial aid, and relevance of research to community needs are essential to restoring public trust. The discussion also addressed emerging pressures, including rapid technological change, artificial intelligence, national security concerns tied to research and data, and the influence of social media on public discourse. Speakers called on universities to communicate their value more clearly, form stronger public‑ and private‑sector partnerships, and recommit to their role as places where difficult conversations can happen with rigor, respect, and honesty. Audience questions steered the conversation toward practical action: how to design classrooms and campus experiences that encourage belonging and respectful dissent; how faculty can be supported in navigating charged discussions; and how leaders can remain grounded in core educational values amid political and social pressures. As the inaugural event in the series concluded, President Guskiewicz reflected on the enduring responsibility of universities to educate not only skilled graduates, but engaged citizens. The evening affirmed the purpose of the Presidential Speaker Series: to model civil discourse, elevate thoughtful disagreement, and strengthen the democratic mission at the heart of higher education. Transcript: Speaker 1 (00:00:00): Good evening. Hello, and thank you so much for joining us tonight. I'm Ann Austin, and I'm a university distinguished professor in the College of Education. I'm very pleased to be here this evening to introduce the Special Presidential Speaker Series and its participants to you. Before we get started, I want to mention a few housekeeping items. First, and in particular to the topic that we're examining this evening, we ask that you please be respectful to those who are joining in the conversation. We also ask that you avoid flash photography or personal recording devices as they may be distracting to those who are on the stage. And we all very much appreciate your cooperation with those requests. Tonight, we're going to be discussing a topic that's quite important to me, and I think to all of us, it's important to me because I've held leadership roles in higher education, as well as being a researcher who studies major issues in higher education. (00:01:05): And in fact, with my colleague, Brendan Cantwell, who I think is here this evening also, we've been hosting a series of public webinars discussing the future of public research universities. And tonight's topic on higher education and civil discourse is really quite central to that future of our universities. Before we delve into the discussion, I first want to acknowledge some of the people joining us in the audience tonight, starting with Michigan State University, Board of Trustees members, Renee Knake Jefferson, and Rebecca Bahar-Cook. (00:01:50): We appreciate having our trustees with us. And welcome also to the state legislators joining us, as well as the presidents of several Michigan universities and colleges and leaders of the Michigan Association of State Universities and Research Universities for Michigan. Thank you so much for joining us. So let's get started with this very interesting evening. Writing in the Lansing State Journal in 2024, MSU President Kevin Guskiewicz said that upholding ideals like civility, respect, and dignity is essential to the meaningful exercise of pluralistic democracy. And he wrote, "The universities like Michigan State are purpose built to promote understanding across our differences." The following month here at the Wharton Center during his presidential investiture, the president announced his intent to sponsor a presidential speaker series. He said such discussions could help our students learn to better navigate a world that's filled with diverse beliefs and viewpoints, bringing thinkers and doers to this campus in an atmosphere of civil discourse. (00:03:17): We know that college might be the first place that many students live and work together alongside people with very different backgrounds and lived experiences. President Guskowitz pointed out that this mix of people and perspectives makes campuses like ours a microcosm of the society into which our Spartans will graduate. This annual presidential speaker series was conceived as a university and a community event, offering attendees and especially our students, examples and role model...

Michigan State University has unveiled the signature initiatives of its specially appointed Green and White Council. The Council was convened by MSU President Kevin Guskiewicz and tasked with bringing forward ideas to strengthen the state’s workforce, connect students to high-quality careers, and accelerate innovation across Michigan’s industries.  Launched by Guskiewicz in April, and co-chaired by Matt Elliott and Sanjay Gupta, the Green and White Council comprises more than a dozen prominent leaders, including representatives from Dart Container, Bedrock Detroit, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, ITC Holdings and Carhartt, representing a cross-section of industry and innovation that drive the economy.   Conversation Highlights: (1:37) - Before we discuss the signature initiatives, remind us why you thought it was important to pull this group together and what you charged them to do. (2:57) - Why did you select Matt and Sanjay to co-chair the council? And talk about the membership of the council and the variety of backgrounds you wanted to get input from. (4:16) - Why was it important to you to co-chair council and lead this initiative? And talk about the process and collaboration of the council. How did you do your work and go about selecting these three initiatives? (7:15) - Enhancing MSU’s current work to connect education and industry, the members of the Green and White Council used their experience, knowledge and effort, to shape three transformative initiatives:   AI-Ready Spartans Career-Connected Spartans Spartan Catalyst Elaborate on the initiatives, and why did you settle on these three? (8:34) – What do you mean by AI-Ready Spartans? (12:00) – What are Career-Connected Spartans? (16:20) – What is a Spartan Catalyst? (21:33) – What are your thoughts on what Matt and Sanjay have been discussing? (23:23) - How do you envision the initiatives being implemented across campus over the coming weeks, months and even years? (27:36) - Will the council disband or will you keep working? (28:34) – Closing thoughts from the group. Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.   Conversation Transcript: Russ White (00:00): Michigan State University has unveiled the signature initiatives of the specially appointed green and white council. The council was convened by MSU President Kevin Guskiewicz and tasked with bringing forward ideas to strengthen the state's workforce, connect students to high quality careers and accelerate innovation across Michigan's industries. Launched by President Guskiewicz in April and co-chaired by Matt Elliot and Sanjay Gupta. The Green and White Council comprises more than a dozen prominent leaders, including representatives from Dart Container, from Bedrock Detroit, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, ITC Holdings and Carhartt representing a cross section of industry and innovation that drive the economy. And President Guskiewicz it’s always great to have you back on the program. Good to see you again. Kevin Guskiewicz (00:51): Good to see you, Russ. Thanks for having me. Russ White (00:52): Sanjay Gupta is the Dean Emeritus, and Eli and Edythe L. Broad endowed professor in MSU's. Eli Broad College of Business. Sanjay, great to have you on again. Sanjay Gupta (01:02): Always good to be with you, Russ. Thank you. Russ White (01:03): And Matt, you’ve got your hands into so many things. I know Bank of America, just tell us how you'd like our audience to know about your background. Matt Elliott (01:10): Well, I'm the former president of Bank of America, Michigan, and now I lead a group of people under the banner of Blue Lake Ideas. And what we do is we consult with companies, boards, and institutions to help them lead through a world of accelerating change. Russ White (01:24): Excellent. Kevin Guskiewicz (01:25): And he's a proud Spartan alum.  Russ White (01:26): Kevin, before we discuss the signature initiatives, remind us why you thought it was important to pull this group together and what you charge them to do. Kevin Guskiewicz (01:38): Well, Russ, I've said since I got here about 22 months ago now, that I wanted to be sure that Michigan State was always leading, that we were viewed as the leaders in research, education, service to the state, but also to the nation and the world. And we're going to lead in how we redefine the way in which we can better prepare our graduates for the workforce demands of today and tomorrow, jobs and careers that don't even exist today, that our graduates will be needing to be prepared for over the next three, four decades. So we charged them with gaining a better understanding from industry leaders in about five or six different sectors as to where higher ed is not delivering, it's going to be needed for the future, and I couldn't be happier with where we are. That's sort of one of the initiatives and others really around how we can better connect our graduates t...

Devon Akmon is the director of the renovated and revitalized MSU Museum. Conversation Highlights: (0:20) – What’s been happening at the renovation and revitalization of the venerable MSU Museum? (1:03) – Was the remodeling something you knew was necessary when you became director in 2021? (1:49) – You found a way to stay open during the renovation. (2:52) – What are you excited about in the renovated MSU Museum? (4:06) – What are some current or future exhibits you’d like to highlight? (5:38) – What are the MSU Museum’s priorities in the Uncommon Will Far Better World campaign? (6:34) – What do you want us to know about the revitalized MSU Museum? (7:14) – What are challenges and opportunities ahead for the MSU Museum and the entire arts industry? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.   Conversation Transcript: Russ White (00:00): Well, it's great to welcome Devon Akmon back to MSU Today. Devon is the director of the Michigan State University Museum. Devon, welcome back. Thanks for having me on the show. So Devon, the museum has been closed for a while. I'm not sure if you're saying refurbished, modernized. What are you saying has happened to the museum? Devon Akmon (00:21): Certainly a lot has been happening. I would like to call it a renovation. Speaker 1 (00:24): Renovation, I like it. Speaker 2 (00:26): The museum has never been in a building that was purposely built for museums. So where we are today on the Circle was previously the library. So we've been in, the museum has been in that building for about 75 years. And this is the first infrastructural upgrade to the building, meaning heating, cooling, windows, all the things that make a museum flourish and make us excellent at stewardship of the collection. Speaker 1 (00:52): And Devon, did you kind of know when you took over in 2021, we need to renovate? Or was that part of even why you took the job knowing we would renovate?  Speaker 2 (01:04): Certainly it was a priority from day one. So we are really proud that the Michigan State University Museum is accredited and less than 5% of museums are. There are 35,000 museums in the nation. Less than 5% are accredited. However, because of the accreditation standards, we were very concerned would we be able to continue with that designation given we didn't have heating and cooling. So from day one at that time, it was Provost Woodruff and Vice Provost Stoddard and I, we discussed this and made it a priority. And with the collective leadership, were able to get that vital support from our board of trustees who agreed this is an investment we need to make here at MSU. Speaker 1 (01:41): But you didn't really close completely, right? You stayed alive in the new MSU Credit Union building. You were there. Talk about how you stayed open and alive. Speaker 2 (01:49): So we've been really working to revitalize the museum. I don't think that most people recognize that the MSU Museum was founded in 1857 with the first incoming class of students here. And I always tell people MSU had two great visions. One, this notion of a land grant, and two, a museum that would help with teaching, learning, public engagement, research. So as we've been rethinking what a museum could be in the 21st century post pandemic, we were making great inroads and we knew that by shutting down for 18 months, we would be at a disadvantage. We wouldn't be able to serve our students and faculty in the community. So with the gracious support of our friends at MSU FCU, they provided us with a space where we had exhibitions and programming and a host of activity happening for about 18 months. We just closed down that gallery last week and now we're eagerly anticipating the reopening of the museum. Speaker 1 (02:40): So Devon, it's renovated. Tell us about what the renovation looks like. What are you excited about? What are some of the changes? Obviously some of the infrastructure, but what are you excited about in the renovated museum? Speaker 2 (02:52): Well, certainly the upgrades, new windows, all these things that will make it a comfortable and stable environment and enable us to do more forward-looking collection stewardship. However, we were able to renovate and upgrade some of the spaces in the museum as well. So the Forest Acres Trust has been phenomenal and they granted us $2 million to reenvision our lower level. So now we have a new immersive lab for faculty and students to engage more closely with our one million objects and specimens in our collection. We have more experiential learning galleries now because of this where we can collaborate with our students and faculty to build exhibitions. It doesn't have to just be the professional staff, but we also have other spaces in the museum for teaching, learning. We've included two new community, what we're calling lounges for students so that they can just drop in and hang out. (

Michigan State University has received a historic $401 million commitment from Greg and Dawn Williams.  Made through the university’s “Uncommon Will, Far Better World” campaign and in support of MSU Athletics’ FOR SPARTA initiative, this is the largest single commitment in the history of MSU and one of the largest single amounts in college athletics history.  Their generosity will dramatically transform Spartan Athletics and fuel academic excellence across multiple disciplines, reinforcing MSU’s mission to empower students and serve communities across Michigan and beyond. Here is the December 5, 2025, event and press conference announcing the gift. (0:00) – Remarks from MSU President Kevin Guskiewicz (introduced by Matt Larson) (7:01) – Remarks from MSU Vice President for University Advancement Kim Tobin (9:43) – Remarks from MSU Athletic Director J Batt (14:25) - Remarks from Spartans Basketball Coach Tom Izzo (29:33) – Remarks from Greg Williams Questions from the media (47:02) – When and what made you fall in love with MSU, Greg? (49:02) – Greg, can you give us the timeline of making the decision to make this gift? (50:38) – For Greg and Kevin, how did your Pittsburgh backgrounds play into your relationship? (53:26) – How do you want this gift to be commemorated, Greg, and how is Izzo on a lawn mower? (54:58) – For Kevin, how do you decide how to allocate these funds? (56:45) – For J, before and after this gift, where is does this gift put MSU in the landscape of private giving? (57:45) – For J, how much of the gift is going toward upgrades to facilities?   Event Transcript: Matt Larson (00:00): Good morning and welcome to a truly historic day for Michigan State University and Spartan Athletics. Please welcome to the stage President Guskiewicz. Kevin Guskiewicz (00:18): Good morning. Good morning and thank you all for joining us here in the Breslin Center. This is the site of so many Spartan triumphs from epic basketball games to joyful graduation ceremonies, and today is a historic day for Michigan State University. It's one of those moments in the life of a university when the horizon suddenly opens wider. As a proudly public leading global research institution, Michigan State is defined not only by our proud legacy and what we've inherited, but by what we dream and build for our future together as one team. When we launched our $4 billion Uncommon Will Far Better World campaign earlier this year, we did something bold. We said out loud that Michigan State was ready to take on the toughest challenges of our time and that we were going to seek what it takes to do it. Facing tough challenges is what we do. (01:30): We are built for this from preparing students for the careers of the 21st century perhaps for jobs and careers that don't even yet exist today to squaring off against complex problems like cancer and the impact of climate change on global food security. These are the challenges that can only be addressed as a team by committed people willing to step in, roll up their sleeves and work together. Greg and Dawn Williams, in fact were one of the first couples that my wife Amy and I met after having accepted the opportunity to become Michigan State University's 22nd president about two years ago. They welcomed us warmly and we appreciate all that they have done for Michigan State University and for the surrounding communities and for us personally. Thank you. Their personal belief in this campaign in the possibilities for Michigan State University has been unwavering. From day one, they saw a vision, a university that leans forward, that pushes boundaries, that meets students where they are and takes them farther than they thought ever possible. That generates ideas that shift industries strengthens communities and shapes lives, and Dawn and Greg have done more, and we are here today to acknowledge and celebrate their vision and their generosity. Today I am proud to announce Michigan State's largest private financial commitment ever. Greg and Dawn Williams are committing $401 million to Michigan State University. (03:35): This is a gift and an investment that will shape the future of our athletic and academic programs for generations to come. Not only is it the largest in our university history, it is one of the largest to any athletic program in the nation and one of the largest to any university in the nation. It reflects Greg and Dawn's belief in what Michigan State stands for, opportunity grit and a shared responsibility to lift one another. And I'm so excited to share this milestone with them. It's not often that we get to celebrate something of this magnitude, something that will support students, faculty, staff, and students, student athletes for generations to come. This gift impacts many areas at Michigan State University and it sets a great example for other donors and supporters that you can be engaged in so many different ways to support Michigan State University, giving sure, but also by being engaged, whether it's partnering with us to set up internships or speaking to classes or serving as a mentor to those coming up behind you. (04:49): It's all connected. It all makes a difference. The Williams’ commitment also represents Spartans’ deep rooted spirit of bold innovation. Michigan State was founded as the trailblazing Land Grant College based on the insight that knowledge can change everything, that access matters, that impact matters, that progress should be shared. Greg and Dawn embody that same engaged innovating drive. This partnership feels so natural to us because MSU and the Williams family share a worldview that the future isn't something we wait for. It's something we create and that's something that we've talked about. On many occasions, their investment will propel us forward in ways that will echo across generations. Empowering student athletes who dream of excellence, fueling innovation and entrepreneurship and strengthening the traditions that unite our Spartan community more than a commitment is a vote of confidence in who we are and who we aspire to become. To Greg, to Dawn, and to your family, thank you for choosing to write this next chapter with us.

photo credit: The State News Michigan State University introduced new Head Football Coach Pat Fitzgerald to Spartan Nation at an introductory press conference on December 2 in the Greg and Dawn Williams Lobby of the Tom Izzo Football Building on the MSU campus. Conversation Highlights: (0:00) – Opening remarks from Athletic Director J Batt (3:59) – Remarks from President Kevin Guskiewicz (8:58) – Remarks from Coach Pat Fitzgerald Questions from the media: (18:05) – How hungry are you to succeed? (19:45) – How are you prepared to handle the changing and evolving landscape of college football? (21:04) – When is the first time you thought about coaching MSU? (22:10) – For J Batt – how early on did you identify Pat as the guy? How quickly will we see his impact on the field? (23:17) – What did you learn from your Northwestern experience and how will that make you a better coach at MSU? (24:30) – What are the resources available to you, and what resources do you need to succeed? (25:25) – What’s your message to MSU students? (26:58) – For Kevin and J – When and how did you decide to change coaches? (29:08) – How important are these next five days for you? (31:35) – What traits will you look for in your coaching staff? (33:26) – When did it click for you that MSU was the place for you? (35:23) – Was it an advantage in a way to be away from the game for awhile? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.   Conversation Transcript: J Batt (00:00): Well, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Welcome to everyone today, our head coaches that are with us, our donors, our athletic department staff, media members, so glad to see you and many of our special guests in particular. Welcome to the Fitzgerald family. We're so glad you're here. Welcome. It is indeed a great day to be a Spartan. We are excited you're here and ready for a tremendous start to the next chapter of Michigan State Football. Before I get into today's news, I'd like to thank Jonathan Smith for the first class manner in which he represented Michigan State and the professional classy manner. He's handled this transition. We certainly wish him well and his family well and their future endeavors, but as I said, today marks the start of a new era of Michigan State football. Spartan football has a proud history of national championships, big 10 Championships, rose Bowl, CFP appearances and much of that success is recent.   (01:08): More importantly, Spartan football is defined by its people, the student athletes and coaches that have built this program and the loyal passionate fan base that fill Spartan Stadium each and every week is with them in mind that I set about making sure we had the right coach to lead our program. Transitions are always difficult and throughout the process I continually focused on what I believe was in the best long-term interest of our programs. I wanted a coach who was a proven winner, a coach of integrity and intensity, someone with a formula for success on the field and a plan of attack in a continually evolving landscape, someone who could effectively and efficiently use the resources they were provided. Fit was also important as we set out on this search. Someone who understands the Big 10 and has relationships through the Midwest, a coach who embodies the values on which our program was built.   (02:07): Perhaps most importantly, someone who shares our standard of excellence and aggressively pursues that excellence each and every day. I was looking for someone who would partner as we continue to elevate not just Michigan State football, but our entire athletic department, someone who would share our fundraising vision. Some of you may have seen we launched a $1 billion capital initiative today, so a few renderings of the east side of Spartan Stadium. Pretty excited about that and it certainly gave me chills to see that rendering for the first time and hopefully he did the same for you as we went through this list of criteria. Pat Fitzgerald met every criteria. He's a passionate winner. He understands the Big 10 in college football here in the Midwest. We have a shared vision for building championships and returning this program to its elite level of success. At the same time, we have an obligation as a department to the football program.   (03:02): We are fully committed to providing the resources and infrastructure required to compete at the highest lever. Nearly six months ago, almost to the day, I stood in this exact same spot and shared that my vision for reestablishing Michigan State Athletics as a top 10 athletic department. I also spoke about the importance of Michigan State football and what is required for us to reach that goal. To reach that level of success requires alignment at every level. I'd like to publicly thank President Gussy and our board of trustees for their support of our department through this transition and throughout the year also being a great partner as we work towards our common goals. They have certainly positioned us well for success in years to come and is in that spirit of alignment that I'd like to welcome the stage our president, Dr. Kevin Skow.   Kevin Guskiewicz (04:00): Thanks Jay and it's an honor to be here Today I want to take this opportunity to welcome the Fitzgerald family to our family here in East Lansing to Michigan State University State, Jack, Brendan, and I know that Ryan, I think is off at football practice across the lake. You're going to love the family that you are joining today. I want to also take this opportunity to welcome two of our board of trustees members, Renee Kki Jefferson and Dennis Deno who are with us today. I see Dennis and Trustee Kki Jefferson is here somewhere I think, but thank you for your support in supporting this transition. I also want to take the opportunity as Jay Bat has already done, and that is to thank Jonathan Smith for his contributions to Michigan State University and his family for being part of this community and he is indeed a class act and I know we will continue to try to support him and his family even on a wintry day like today.   (05:01): I'm sure that Coach Fitz, as he has said, he likes to be called Coach Fitz. I'm going to work on that and his family will discover the warmth of our Michigan State community much in the same way that Amy and our family did when we visited this campus nearly two years to the day when it was much like this with a little snow on the ground, but it's warmth that's as I like to say, kindled by our passionate campus and a Spartan community and all those many who are in the room today who are dedicated to making a difference on the field and beyond, and that's the way we develop talent here at Michigan State University. I'm excited for what Coach Fitzgerald's addition to our athletics program will do not only for Spartan football but for our entire campus. Pat Fitzgerald is a p...

Phillip Bahar is the new director of Michigan State University’s Eil and Edythe Broad Art Musuem. Bahar shares his background and tells why he wants to lead The Broad. He talks about the museum’s evolving mission and shares his short- and long-term goals for The Broad. He discusses challenges and opportunities ahead for The Broad and for the entire arts industry. Conversation Highlights: (0:20) – What’s your background? (1:22) – Is there something unique about a museum in a university setting? (2:03) – Do you have any experience with MSU, the state of Michigan, and/or The Broad? (2:46) – What attracted you to leading The Broad at MSU? (3:39) – What’s the mission of the museum, and what’s your vision for evolving the mission? (4:56) – What are some of your short- and long-term goals for The Broad? (6:15) – What are some of the challenges and opportunities ahead for The Broad and the entire arts industry? (7:05) – What are some current or future exhibits you’d like to put on people’s radars? (8:14) – What are some of the Broad’s priorities in MSU’s Uncommon Will. Far Better World campaign? (9:53) – How would you like faculty, staff, student and the public to interact with the museum? (11:27) – Final thoughts. Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows. Conversation Transcript: Speaker 1: On this episode of MSU today, it's great to welcome the new director of the Eli and Edith Broad Art Museum at Michigan State University. Phillip Bahar. Phillip, great to meet you and welcome to the university and the program. Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here at MSU and at the Broad, Speaker 1: Could you start, give us a little bit of your background that's led you to MSU? Speaker 2: Sure. I've had my entire career in the arts and museums. I just came from Chicago where I led the Chicago Humanities Festival. We'd put on about a hundred programs a year, artists, authors, journalists, policy makers, other thinkers from across the world, and a lot of academics. So I'm very close to working with the university systems and working with thought leaders in their fields. And before that, I was at the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, which is one of the great contemporary art museums in the world. Film Series performing arts series. Really amazing exhibitions in certain ways. Very similar to the Broad, really thinking about the museum as a multidisciplinary space, a space for artists to spread their wings and do new work, but also an opportunity for audiences to really experiencing experience, things that are new and that might change how they think about the world. Speaker 1: And is there something unique about a museum in a university setting? Speaker 2: Absolutely, because MSU has a faculty, they have faculty with such a wide array of experiences and knowledge, and I think that's one of the things that actually makes the broad very special, is that we do a lot of partnerships with faculty. So they bring their research, they bring their areas of inquiry into our space with us, and then we get to play with the collection and with artists to figure out, okay, how can we tell a story that's through the lens of what they're thinking about, but very much true to who we are and to who the collection is and the artists we present. Speaker 1: And do you happen to have any past experience with either MSU, the state of Michigan or maybe the broad itself? Speaker 2: I hadn't had direct experience, but obviously I'd been following the broad from its founding. The Zaha Hadid building was a big deal when it was first built, the first free standing building by that architect in America. And then also the exhibitions over the last 12 years, I've periodically dipped in and seen what's been going on there from afar. There have been a lot of actually Chicago artists that have passed through the Broad. So along the way I've kind of been in Chicago seeing Chicago artists kind of starting to expand their reach and many of them have ended up here. Yeah, Speaker 1: That's cool. So what attracted you to leading the broad here at MSU? Speaker 2: Certainly I think museums are magical spaces, and I think the broad from the exterior to the experience inside is really special. The collection is a historic collection, but we're a very much contemporary institution, and that's what drew me to it. As a museum, we're focusing on issues that really matter to us as individuals as a society today, but we have this lens and this ability to dip into our past while looking at our present. One of the great things I think of the humanities, but certainly of museums is that ability to bring the present to life through a different lens and maybe give you a different perspective on how to think about things or how to see things. Speaker 1: And you've been discussing it, Phillip, but talk a little bit about the mission of the museum and then your vision for evolving that mission. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the broad really has, I'd say two core areas of focus. One is obviously the MSU community. We want art to be essential to all the students on campus and the faculty on campus. That essential element might be once a year coming and having an experience. It might be coming every week, it might be coming every day. But really making art a central part of the MSU experience as part one and then more in the region and in the Lansing East Lansing community. Being the primary art museum in this area is a really important responsibility and we take it seriously and it allows us to think about what kind of exhibition should we be putting on that serve both the campus and the community. Sometimes one, sometimes other. Always both, right? So the last exhibit we closed maybe a couple months ago was called Farmland, and it was a look through the lens of artists on food production, on agriculture. So there was a really beautiful connection to where we are, the kind of institution we are as a university, but then having artists really think about, okay, what do these things mean to us in our daily lives? Speaker 1: Phillip, you're just getting started, but do you have some sort of short-term goals as you get started? And if you've had even some time, maybe some longer term ones down the road? Speaker 2: The short-term goals is Speaker 2: Just to meet Speaker 2: People. I've been meeting a lot of people, both the staff, faculty, deans, et cetera. So that's a big priority in the short term. Speaker 1: Right? Speaker 2: In the long-term, it's really about how can we continue to build on the Broad's amazing legacy, interacting and connecting with more individual students, interacting with partners across the region and nationally because also at a national level, there are only so many university art museums. And I think some of the things we're doing...

Bert Cregg is a professor of Horticulture and Forestry in Michigan State University’s College of Agriculture and Natural Resources. Cregg talks about the Christmas tree industry’s place in Michigan’s economy and says there are plenty of trees available for those who want them this season. He talks about the latest MSU research on Christmas trees and says that climate change is likely already impacting the industry. And he shares his tips for selecting, caring for, and properly disposing of a real tree. Conversation Highlights: (0:29) - Talk about Michigan's Christmas tree industry and its economic impact in the state. (1:27) - What's your background, and how did you originally become interested in studying Christmas trees? (2:31) - What are your and MSU's research interests and activities in this area?  (6:25) - How's the supply this year? Are there plenty of trees to go around for all who want them? (8:25) - Is climate change impacting the industry? If so, how? (11:30) - Compare and contrast real and artificial trees and their respective impacts on the environment? (14:53) - What are your tips for selecting, maintaining, and properly disposing of a real Michigan Christmas tree?  (20:04) - What is the Michigan Christmas Tree Association? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.

The Green and White Council at Michigan State University includes some of Michigan’s foremost business and civic leaders coming together to champion bold initiatives that amplify MSU’s role as Michigan’s state university and address the state’s biggest challenges. The Council is one of President Guskiewciz’s signature initiatives.  Harnessing MSU’s distinctive assets and the unparalleled expertise of its members while focusing on what matters most for Michigan, the Council will:  Develop talent for in-demand jobs across the state and equip Spartans with skills of the future.Connect Spartans to great companies and careers in Michigan.Leverage MSU’s cutting-edge research and intellectual property to propel Michigan’s economy.One of the members of the council is Ancor CEO Jose Flores. Conversation Highlights: (0:52) – Meet Jose Flores (1:31) – What’s the history and mission of Ancor? (2:13) – What made you accept the invitation of President Guskiewicz to join the council? (3:08) – Is there a disconnect between higher education and employer needs? (3:56) – What are the challenges and opportunities ahead? (4:54) – Have you seen some examples of regional or statewide collaborations that have been successful? (6:24) – How will we know if the council is successful? (6:47) – How do we go about keeping Spartans in Michigan when they graduate? (7:57) – How does Ancor go about talent development? (9:56) – What should we keep in mind about the Green and White Council and what it’s trying to do? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.

MSU Shares is a fundraising campaign to help local charities provide services to students and residents right in our own community. Donations from faculty, staff and students support charities that serve more than 120,000 people annually in our tri-county region. With the assistance of the United Way, employee volunteers from across campus seek donations from their peers and help spread awareness of this annual campaign. Here to discuss MSU Shares are MSU’s Vice President for Strategic Initiatives Bill Beekman and United Way President and CEO for United Way of South Central Michigan Chris Sargent. Conversation Highlights: (0:15) – Bill introduces Chris. Why is United Way important for our community? (2:14) – United Way supports young people who are interested in a college education. (5:41) – This is an important time to launch MSU Shares. What are the giving options? (9:35) – It’s really easy for MSU employees to give to the United Way through EBS. (11:30) – The name of the campaign - MSU Shares - is appropriate. Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.

Michigan State University Spartans Head Basketball Coach Tom Izzo met with the media on October 16 to preview the coming college basketball season. Conversation Highlights: (0:00) – opening remarks (11:30) – How do you keep your team focused in the ever-changing world of college basketball? (15:24) – In college athletics today, are the expectations to win unrealistic? (17:09) – Is there a Jase Richardson on this year’s roster? (19:32) – Did last year’s success rejuvenate you? (22:23) – Compare and contrast Trey Fort and Kur Teng. (24:15) – Do you feel like with the guys you have returning that you’re being slighted? (28:06) – What makes this group of four captains special? (30:43) – What are your expectations for Coen Carr? (32:06) – Talk about your relationship with your players? (35:21) – What has surprised you about Cam Ward and Jordan Scott and what do you see their roles being on the team? (36:55) – What do you hope to learn about your team from the two exhibition games? (38:40) – How are the transfers settling in with the team? (41:34) – What traits do you look for in your players? (44:15) – closing thoughts Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.

Michigan State University President Kevin Guskiewicz delivered his 2025 State of the University address at the faculty investiture on September 30, 2025.SUMMARY KEYWORDS State of the University, new professors, leadership initiatives, enrollment record, US News rankings, federal policy changes, Jennison fund, budget adjustments, comprehensive campaign, experiential learning, strategic plan, One Health, research innovation, community partnerships, athletics. SPEAKERS Speaker 1   00:00 State of the University.   Speaker 1  00:19 So good morning again, and congratulations once again. I think they deserve another round of applause to our 2025, newly endowed professors and chairs. Your excellence truly elevates the capacity of our university to drive our work toward achieving our aspirations as a leading global public research university, and thanks to all my Spartan colleagues for joining us today, including several of our Board of Trustees members one year ago, almost to the day at my presidential investiture here at Wharton Center, I shared a Vision for Michigan State University, not just my own, but one shaped by conversations and collaborations with so many people around our campus and around the community and many of you who are here today together, we outlined big, bold goals, making Michigan State University the most inclusive, welcoming and safe environment it can be tackling grand societal challenges head on, and transforming Michigan State University into a truly next generation University. We also launched several leadership initiatives aimed at achieving those goals, and today, I'm excited to share the progress that we've made and a glimpse of what's ahead. Let's start with some great news, and there's so much that we could talk about and celebrate today, but I want to touch on a few things. First, we entered the new academic year, enrolling more undergraduate students than ever before in our 170 year history of Michigan State University, it's clear that students and families place their trust in us to provide an education that is practical, exceptional and accessible. Students come to us from 139 countries, all 50 states, and all 83 counties across the state of Michigan, we remain the top choice for in state students, with over 8200 Michiganders as part of this new class. And that's why I say that we are Michigan's State University and over 600 highly achieving incoming students join the Honors College, 30 of whom represent our inaugural class of the Williams scholars.   02:52 Second, some good news from US News and World Report   Speaker 1  02:58 US News and World Report rankings just placed six of our undergraduate programs among the nation's top 25 two more than last year. Supply Chain Management ranked number one for 15 consecutive years. Service Learning and Education Abroad ranked number one among public universities, learning communities ranked number two nationally, and the list you could go on and on and on, but there's a lot to celebrate with regard to the incredible academic achievements and opportunities provided through our undergraduate and graduate students here at MSU. And I want to offer a huge congratulations to the faculty and staff who make these programs run, you know, on a daily basis, and, more importantly, to shine on a daily basis. So we're grateful for all that you do. However, not all developments this past year have been easy. Everyone here knows that federal policy changes have disrupted our operations and impacted our core mission of teaching, research and outreach.   04:05 But Spartans don't back down.   Speaker 1  04:09 We mobilize teams to respond swiftly, to protect our research, support our people and continue serving the public, a responsibility that we hold and take very seriously as a leading global public research university, as we always have and will continue to do, I've taken our message to Washington DC and invited lawmakers here to see firsthand the value we provide through research, education and outreach. We've also taken action here at home, through the Jennison fund, we're investing $5 million per year for three years to support affected research programs. Just last week, we notified 37 recipients of this funding, and their work is nothing short of inspiring agricultural economist kajil Galati will be able to pivot from her international work in food safety and security toward applications in the United States, including examining lead testing policies on children's health and educational outcomes. The history department's Professor Walter Hawthorne can complete data integration, supporting scholarly and public access to the names and stories of more than 33,000 historically enslaved individuals on the unique MSU based enslaved.org platform. And graduate student Melina Ortez can continue preparing for a research for a career in research, a cancer research. Jennison funding will support 24 graduate students and restore our fellowships, allowing our continued education of the next generation of scholars and leaders. This is what it means to live our mission, to invest in people, knowledge and purpose. I want to thank all those in the offices and on the rapid response teams analyzing each new mandate and recommending ways to mitigate the disruption to our operations and our people. We will stay true to our Spartan mission and our Spartan values. Not all of our challenges stem from external factors, and I acknowledge the anxiety around our internal budget adjustments, I want to salute the careful work our colleges and administrative units have done to help build a secure, sustainable future for MSU. Together, as one team, we've taken steps to ensure our financial health for the long term. And let me be clear, as I said several times this past year, MSU is not in a financial crisis, but we are navigating a complex landscape and making tough, proactive decisions right now to stay strong. Thanks to our community's hard work, we've maintained the lowest tuition increase among Michigan's public universities over the past decade. We've increased University funded financial aid, and we've protected essential programs while aligning resources with strategic initiatives.   07:33 And we're not slowing down.   Speaker 1  07:35 We're moving forward together as one team with a clearer understanding of who we are and who we can become.   07:46 So as I promised, let's talk apples.   Speaker 1  07:51 Yes, it's harvest season, and Michigan is the nation's second largest apple producer. And that matters because it connects directly to our roots and our role in supporting Michigan's economy and agriculture. I look back at our visit to the Martinez farm in Conklin during our inaugural Spartan bus tour last fall, and I'm proud to know that Michigan's 700 have a reliable partner in Michigan State University, and we saw that firsthand on that bus tour, the training in agricultural and management practices that we offer to farmers such as Paulina Martinez and his team provide the knowledge to Ensure Michigan needs   08:39 in apple production,   Speaker 1  08:42 the Spartan bus store was one of the leadership initiatives that I announced last year. In addition to traveling to Central and Western Michigan last October, we've traveled to Detroit in May to visit places our students call ...

Michigan State University has a new way for students, faculty, staff and visitors to get around campus for free while also contributing to the future of mobility research.  The SpartanXpress is MSU’s autonomous and electric bus and is ready to roll around campus with a fresh look, new route and exciting research opportunities to explore.   Thanks to the university’s latest three-year partnership with ADASTEC, a leading software company that specializes in automated driving solutions, the full-size, 21-seat bus travels a 5.12-mile loop around campus with stops at the Wharton Center for Performing Arts and Anthony Hall.  The bus will run Monday through Friday between 10:05 a.m. and 3:25 p.m. No pass is required for the SpartanXpress. Ridership is free and open to students, faculty, staff, campus visitors and community members.   For the complete schedule and to learn more about MSU’s live, connected mobility ecosystem, visit the MSU Mobility website.   Judd Herzer is MSU’s director of MSU Mobility and Innovation. Cemre Kavvasoglu is product management director, North America for ADASTEC Corp.  Conversation Highlights: (1:20) – What is the Spartan Xpress? (1:58) – Why did ADASTEC want to get involved in this program? (2:40) – Describe Spartan Xpress safety and technology features. (4:54) – What kind of research is happening on the bus? (9:07) – What do you hope to learn from the initial research? (14:13) – How does MSU define mobility? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.

David Ortega is Professor and Noel W. Stuckman Chair in Food Economics & Policy in the Department of Agricultural, Food, and Resource Economics at Michigan State University. Part of the outreach David does is the Stuckman Lecture Series at Michigan State University, which brings leading voices in food and applied economics to campus, fostering critical discussions on the economic forces shaping our food systems and global markets.  As the inaugural speaker, Scott Horsley sets the stage for an ongoing dialogue on the intersection of food, economics, and policy. Scott is NPR's Chief Economics Correspondent. He reports on ups and downs in the national economy as well as fault lines between booming and busting communities. Conversation Highlights: (1:02) - David, describe the work you do at MSU. What is food economics? (1:48) - Who is Noel Stuckman and describe the mission of the series. Why are these discussions important? (2:47) - Scott, what do you see as the key issues in food economics, and what are you focused on reporting? (4:28) - What messages do you hope to leave with the audience? (5:37) – When it comes to food economics, is there a fact you would like to reinforce or a myth you would like to dispel? (8:32) - What’s the mood at NPR after cuts? What’s ahead? (10:13) – What will you be reporting on and researching in the coming months? Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows. Conversation Transcript: Russ White (00:00): Well, David Ortega is professor and Noel W Stuckman chair in Food Economics and Policy in the Department of Agricultural Food and Resource Economics at Michigan State University. David, great to have you back on MSU today. David Ortega (00:15): Thanks, Russ. Happy to be here. Speaker 1 (00:17): In a moment, we're going to talk to NPR Scott Horsley because part of the outreach David does in the Stockman lecture series that is inaugurating today with us, Scott. It's bringing together leading voices in food and applied economics to campus, fostering critical discussions on the economic forces shaping our food systems and global markets. As the inaugural speaker, Scott Horsley sets the stage for an ongoing dialogue on the intersection of food economics and policy. Scott is NPR'S Chief Economics correspondent. He reports on the ups and downs in the national economy. Scott, great to have you at MSU. Scott Horsley (00:53): It's great to be here in Michigan. Speaker 1 (00:56): David, first a little bit about the work you do. What do you mean by food economics and what does the department do? Speaker 2 (01:02): Yeah, so I'm a food economist and that's really a subdiscipline of economics where we look at how food goes all the way from farm to table and all of the people that are involved in producing the food, distributing that food. But we also look at what affects the food on its journey shocks, and we look at prices and economics as sort of an outcome. And there's been a lot of factors that have really converged over these past few years that have led to significant increases in the price of food. Also teach both at the undergraduate and graduate level, teach food marketing management for undergrads, but also food policy at the graduate level to our masters and PhD students. Speaker 1 (01:42): So David, who is Noel Stuckman and describe the mission of this lecture series. Why are these discussions important? Speaker 2 (01:49): Yeah, so Noel Stuckman is a graduate of Michigan State University who went on to have a very distinguished 30 year career with Michigan Farm Bureau working with leaders across the state. And really it was his vision and generosity that made both the chair but also the lecture series possible. And the lecture series came about from a need to have a broader conversation about some of the challenges that are facing both the agricultural and food sector issues like the high price of food and the tremendous policy uncertainty at the moment that are affecting not only decisions on the farm and in agribusiness boardrooms, but also around kitchen tables across the country. And so I think it's an important time to have this discussion and I'm very excited to have Scott to kick us off with the lecture series. Speaker 1 (02:39): And Scott Horsley, why are you interested in these issues and what do you see as the key issues right now in food economics that you're reporting on? Speaker 3 (02:47): Well, it's a great honor to be kicking off this lecture series. I'm flattered that David thought of me. He's been a great resource for us. We've relied on his expertise many times on the radio to help explain what's going on with our food supply. And I hope to maybe repay the favor a little bit. We've seen at the macro level, we've seen grocery prices more or less level off. I mean, they haven't gone down by and large, but they're not going up the way they were a number of years ago where we had for a little while we had double digit grocery price inflation. That's the thing of the past now. And now prices are going up at sort of a more normal level, but for people who had a couple of decades of very stable food prices, the pandemic shock and then the shocks around the war in Ukraine really rattled people and they continue to rattle people. (

Michigan State University unveiled a new strategic plan -- MSU 2030 – in September 2021, articulating a shared vision for the university and six bold priorities for continuous improvement. As originally planned, and now under the leadership of President Kevin Guskiewicz, the strategic plan is being refreshed to reflect on lessons learned, adjust course and make progress toward becoming a more contemporary institution focused on cross-cutting priorities and solutions – with “synergy unleashed.”  The refreshed, reframed and reimagined strategic plan, MSU 2030: Excellence for Global Impact, reaffirms leadership’s commitment to a shared vision for the university through the end of the decade.  Here to discuss the evolution of MSU 2030 are MSU President Kevin Guskiewicz and MSU Vice President for Strategic Initiatives Bill Beekman. Conversation Highlights: (1:15) – Kevin, you’ve said that the compelling vision of an institution taking on the challenges of the 21st century is among the things that attracted me to Michigan State. How so? (2:08) – Bill, you’ve been involved with the plan’s development and implementation since the start. What strikes you about the plan’s refresh? (4:11) – Kevin, you’ve often referred to MSU 2030 as a roadmap. Why is it important for MSU to have this plan and to refresh it now? And what do you mean by “synergy unleashed? (6:24) - The newly revised MSU 2030 plan maintains as foundational elements six strategic and cross-cutting themes and priorities — Student Success, Staff and Faculty Success, Discovery and Innovation for Impact, Sustainable Health, Stewardship for a Sustainable Future, and Access, Opportunity and Excellence. Let’s talk about the cross-cutting themes that are injecting new energy into these ongoing efforts and uniting key areas. How do they complement the themes? How and why were they developed and elaborate on what you mean. First, Grow Talent for Michigan and Beyond. (9:10) - Drive Health Transformation. (11:27) - Enroll for the Future. (14:27) - Build Community Together. (17:05) - Achieve Next-Generation Operations and Organization. (18:50) - Access, Opportunity and Excellence. (20:15) - What’s next? How will implementation proceed, and how will we measure progress and success? (21:48) – Final thoughts. Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows. Conversation Transcript: Russ White: Michigan State University unveiled a new strategic plan MSU 2030 in September, 2021, articulating a shared vision for the university and six bold priorities for continuous improvement as originally planned. And now under the leadership of President Kevin Kasowitz, the strategic plan is being refreshed to reflect on lessons learned, adjust course and make progress toward becoming a more contemporary institution focused on cross-cutting priorities and solutions. With Synergy Unleashed, the refreshed, reframed, and re-imagined strategic plan MSU 2030 Excellence for Global Impact reaffirms leadership's commitment to a shared vision for the university through the end of the decade. Here to discuss the evolution of MSU 2030, our MSU President, Kevin Guskiewicz and MSU, vice President for Strategic Initiatives, bill Beekman and Kevin and Bill, great to have you back in the state of the art studios of Impact Radio here on campus. And Kevin, you've said that the compelling vision of an institution taking on the challenges of the 21st century is among the things that attracted you to Michigan State. How so, and why? Kevin Guskiewicz: Well, Michigan State University is a proudly public university, one that fills a commitment to the people of Michigan. We rely on taxpayer dollars to transform the lives and improve the quality of life for Michiganders. And so much of the work that's done here through our teaching research and outreach is about the common good. I mean, the new strategic plan that we're here talking about, it's woven throughout the entire roadmap. It's about all that we do is for the public good, the common good. And we felt that the first time we touched down here in East Lansing. And 18 months in, I feel even better about where we're headed than what I did two years ago when I started exploring the opportunity. Speaker 1: And Bill, you've been involved with the plan's development and implementation from the start. What strikes you about the refresh? Bill Beekman: Well, I think one of the most important things about the refresh is the fact that we're actually doing it. So often you have strategic plans that get built and there's inordinate amounts of time spent working on them, and then they sort of drift away. And I think what's really wonderful about the creation of this plan and those that were there at the start, is that they very intentionally decided that we should have a refresh that about a third 40% of the way into the implementation of the plan, that we should pause, take a look at the environment, what's changed, what's going well, what should we be thinking about changing based on internal and external factors and recalibrate. And so it's really a living plan. And to me that's one the most important aspects of the plan is that it does change. It does adapt to our circumstances and our environment. (03:08): It allows for us to think about where should we be course correcting? What things should we be doing differently? How should we learn from what we've done? And that constant course correcting and a living plan, I think continues to make it relevant to what we're doing. And so the process has really been wonderful and allowed our team to focus on the future. It was fortuitous that it happened as Kevin had been here for about nine months or thereabouts, so his energy and vision could be incorporated into the work we're doing. And so yeah, it's been a wonderful process and it's great to see it finished and the work of implementation goes on. Speaker 1 (03:57): Yes. And Kevin, you've often referred to MSU 2030 as a roadmap in addition to a strategic plan. Why is it important for MSU to have this plan and to refresh it now? And what do you mean by synergy unleashed? Speaker 2 (04:12): Well, I've always used the word roadmap rus because I think you need a roadmap to get to a destination. And the destination that was agreed upon back in 2021 were set of established goals and priorities and how we were going to get there needed to be sort of re-imagined. But again, I think as Bill's already said, it's sort of reaffirming those six initial prio...

The Michigan State University College of Law is home to eight law clinics, each specializing in a public service area of the law that provides professional legal counsel to the most vulnerable people in society. Each clinic is directed by licensed attorneys who are members of the MSU Law faculty and staffed by law students who gain critical hands-on research and litigation experience. The clinics provide pro bono legal services and have won important cases for clients across the country. MSU Law clinics cover the following areas of the law: immigration, family and juvenile law, housing, small business, public defense, Indian law, tax law, and first amendment. In this law clinic podcast series, MSU Today explores how our law clinics have won life-changing cases for clients and have given students incredible starts to successful legal careers. For today’s episode, we talk with VERONICA THRONSON, a clinical professor of law and director of the Immigration Law Clinic, which just celebrated its 15th anniversary. Additionally, we are joined by DAVID THRONSON, a professor of law who works closely with the clinic.  Conversation Highlights: (1:29) - Can you share your backgrounds and legal interests? (3:11) - What is the story on how you came to MSU Law to establish the law clinic? (3:54) - What types of services and cases do you deal with at the clinic?  (6:39) - Students are an integral part of the clinic, and you have had up to a dozen students before. What role do law students have at the clinic? (9:35) - The clinic is celebrating its 15-year anniversary. Why is this significant? (11:05) - How has the clinic’s work been affected by current immigration policy? How are you feeling about the future? (14:43) - How is it being a husband-and-wife team? (17:12) – Final thoughts Listen to “MSU Today with Russ White” on the radio and through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your shows.