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In part two, we move into the most unsettling and controversial testimony connected to Rendlesham Forest. Gary discusses accounts of beams of light directed into nuclear bunkers, grid-like scanning patterns over the base, and visual descriptions of a translucent wedge-shaped craft observed at close range. We also explore testimony describing a glowing fog near ground level, objects dividing into multiple forms, and reports of what appeared to be non-human beings seen near the craft during a silent encounter. Finally, we examine what these details imply, why they were rarely discussed publicly, and how they challenge conventional explanations of the incident. This is the side of the Rendlesham case that is almost never explored in mainstream coverage. https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN-Rendlesham-Forest-Incidents-Denial/dp/B0BVDF6W2Z 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In part one of this conversation, Gary Heseltine breaks down the Rendlesham Forest incident from the ground up. We focus on the credibility of the witnesses involved, the fact that Rendlesham was not a single event but a series of multiple timed incidents, and why the location of the base as a nuclear weapons storage site changes how the case should be viewed. Gary also explains how the official story became streamlined over time, how key testimony was pushed aside, and why the Rendlesham narrative most people are familiar with does not reflect the full body of evidence. This episode sets the foundation for understanding why Rendlesham remains such a significant and unresolved case. https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN-Rendlesham-Forest-Incidents-Denial/dp/B0BVDF6W2Z🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Former police detective and investigator Gary Heseltine joins me for a deep dive into the Rendlesham Forest incident, and why the case is far stranger than it is usually presented. In this conversation, we explore credible police testimony describing multiple UFO-related events over several nights, not just a single encounter. Gary explains how Rendlesham was home to a nuclear weapons storage area, why that matters, and what witnesses reported seeing above and around the base. We discuss accounts of a glowing yellow-green fog, a translucent wedge-shaped craft, beams of light directed toward nuclear bunkers, and testimony describing what appeared to be non-human beings observed in close proximity to the craft. We also examine how the Rendlesham story became tightly controlled, why certain details were sidelined, and how documentaries and media coverage helped shape a simplified narrative that left critical testimony out. This is a careful, detailed discussion of one of the most important UFO cases in the UK, and why key elements of the story still demand serious attention. As always, I’ll let you make up your own mind. https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN-Rendlesham-Forest-Incidents-Denial/dp/B0BVDF6W2Z 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In this end of month news update, I break down some of the most important and under discussed developments in the UFO and UAP space as we head towards February 2026. Topics include new claims around detection and sensor limitations, recent FOIA refusals and media access restrictions revealed by The Black Vault, and renewed debate around the Nazca mummies. I also cover a notable article published in The Sunday Times suggesting central banks should consider the financial stability risks of a future UAP disclosure, followed by a clearly separated statement provided to me by former Bank of England analyst Helen McCaw. Her argument focuses on institutional culture, risk assessment, and why low probability, high impact scenarios can no longer be dismissed. The episode closes with listener questions, discussion around how the UAP conversation is spreading across society, and a look ahead at major space developments from China and NASA. https://uapsummit.org/event/uap-summit-2026/ Discount Code - ThatUFOPodcast30 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In this end of month news update, I break down some of the most important and under discussed developments in the UFO and UAP space as we head towards February 2026. Topics include new claims around detection and sensor limitations, recent FOIA refusals and media access restrictions revealed by The Black Vault, and renewed debate around the Nazca mummies. I also cover a notable article published in The Sunday Times suggesting central banks should consider the financial stability risks of a future UAP disclosure, followed by a clearly separated statement provided to me by former Bank of England analyst Helen McCaw. Her argument focuses on institutional culture, risk assessment, and why low probability, high impact scenarios can no longer be dismissed. The episode closes with listener questions, discussion around how the UAP conversation is spreading across society, and a look ahead at major space developments from China and NASA. https://uapsummit.org/event/uap-summit-2026/ Discount Code - ThatUFOPodcast30 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

This special episode of That UFO Podcast pays tribute to Erich von Däniken, the Swiss author whose book Chariots of the Gods? helped popularise the ancient astronaut hypothesis and reshape public conversations about humanity’s past. Erich von Däniken passed away on January 10th 2026 at the age of 90. In this episode, Andy reflects on von Däniken’s life, influence, and the controversy surrounding his work, before sharing a short archival audio interview recorded several years ago ahead of von Däniken’s appearance at Contact in the Desert. A respectful look at a figure whose ideas inspired curiosity, debate, and imagination for generations. Pick up "Chariots of the Gods" - https://amzn.eu/d/3bgUYPm🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

This special episode of That UFO Podcast pays tribute to Erich von Däniken, the Swiss author whose book Chariots of the Gods? helped popularise the ancient astronaut hypothesis and reshape public conversations about humanity’s past. Erich von Däniken passed away on January 10th 2026 at the age of 90. In this episode, Andy reflects on von Däniken’s life, influence, and the controversy surrounding his work, before sharing a short archival audio interview recorded several years ago ahead of von Däniken’s appearance at Contact in the Desert. A respectful look at a figure whose ideas inspired curiosity, debate, and imagination for generations. Pick up "Chariots of the Gods" - https://amzn.eu/d/3bgUYPm 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha. In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach. They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun videos that remain unseen, and why mainstream media once again failed to show up in force. The conversation also explores the limits of disclosure, whistleblower protections, national security concerns, and why for the public, it may now be bodies or craft or nothing at all. Is disclosure stalled, delayed, or simply waiting for undeniable proof. https://x.com/TheUfoJoe 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha. In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach. They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun videos that remain unseen, and why mainstream media once again failed to show up in force. The conversation also explores the limits of disclosure, whistleblower protections, national security concerns, and why for the public, it may now be bodies or craft or nothing at all. Is disclosure stalled, delayed, or simply waiting for undeniable proof. https://x.com/TheUfoJoe 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

This is a breaking news episode summarising today’s UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil. Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures. The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event. Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,Andy

In Part 2, Matt Ford explains why he takes a confrontational stance online, calling out professional debunkers, media narratives, and institutional behaviour around UAPs. We discuss accountability, skepticism versus narrative management, and where the UFO conversation may be heading next. 🎧 Available on all podcast platforms📘 Atlas of UFOs by Andy available now - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Matt's work - https://linktr.ee/thegoodtroubleshow https://uapsummit.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,Andy

This is a breaking news episode summarising today’s UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil. Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures. The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event. Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In Part 1, journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford discusses his background, early interest in UFOs, personal experiences, and why stigma continues to shape the conversation. We explore how experiencers are affected by ridicule, why many stay silent for decades, and the human cost of dismissing the phenomenon outright. 🎧 Available on all podcast platforms📘 Atlas of UFOs by Andy available now - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Matt's work - https://linktr.ee/thegoodtroubleshow https://uapsummit.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,Andy

Journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford joins me to discuss UFO stigma, skepticism, and why public conversation around UAPs remains so charged. Matt talks openly about his confrontational online approach, the impact of stigma on experiencers and whistleblowers, and why accountability matters in a space often dismissed or ridiculed. A grounded, honest conversation about perception, pressure, and the cost of speaking out. 🎧 Available on all podcast platforms 📘 Atlas of UFOs by Andy available now - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Matt's work - https://linktr.ee/thegoodtroubleshow https://uapsummit.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In this special archival episode, we revisit a largely forgotten but highly significant moment in modern UFO history. In November 2007, international military, aviation, scientific, and government officials gathered at the National Press Club in Washington DC to publicly discuss their UFO encounters and official investigations, a full decade before the subject re-entered the mainstream conversation in 2017. Participants included senior figures from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Iran, Peru, and Chile, many of whom described incidents involving radar tracking, military interception, physical effects, and objects exhibiting performance beyond known technology. This episode is compiled from the original 2007 event recordings and is published with the explicit permission of filmmaker James Fox. Advertising on this episode supports the continued production and archiving of historical UFO material. The release of this archival event comes ahead of the upcoming National Press Club UAP press conference taking place in Washington DC on January 20th, where new witnesses and experts are expected to address the issue. A link to that event is included in the show notes. This episode is presented for historical and educational purposes and provides essential context for understanding how today’s UFO discussion was shaped long before the current disclosure era. Check out the 20th January event here - https://www.youtube.com/@NationalPressClubLive/streams 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy