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2020/06/02
Latest episode
2026/02/04
Average duration
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The Counsel Podcast is for in-house lawyers who want honest conversations and practical insights about life inside legal teams. Host Mel Storey chats with leaders across the profession and shares tips to help you grow and thrive in-house. Connect with Mel on Instagram @CareerBigSis or LinkedIn. Thank you for being here!
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49. Navigating Brand Infringement in the Age of AI: All things IP with Josh Gerben
2026/02/04
In this conversation, trademark attorney Josh Gerben discusses the intricacies of trademark law, emphasising the importance of proactive trademark management and the evolving landscape influenced by AI.
He highlights common mistakes companies make in managing their trademarks, the need for effective communication between legal and marketing teams, and the significance of understanding both defensive and offensive trademark strategies.
Gerben also shares insights on the impact of AI on intellectual property rights and offers practical advice for new General Counsel's in navigating trademark portfolios.
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Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @careerbigsis
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be an in house lawyer today!
48. From Law School to In-House Success: Irene Kuo's Journey
2026/01/20
In this engaging conversation, Irene Kuo shares her unique journey from law school to becoming a successful in-house lawyer.
She discusses her early influences, the challenges faced in the legal profession, and her transition to in-house practice. Irene emphasises the importance of community involvement, networking and self-expression in her career. She also reflects on the future of in-house practice, particularly the role of technology and AI.
The conversation concludes with a rapid-fire round, highlighting Irene's vibrant personality and insights on various topics.
Takeaways:
- Irene's legal journey began with encouragement from her father.
- She faced challenges in securing a graduate position after law school.
- Her experience in litigation confirmed her preference for in-house roles.
- Irene emphasises the importance of understanding one's personality in career choices.
- She advocates for community involvement among in-house lawyers.
- Networking can be intimidating, but it's essential for growth.
- Self-expression, including her pink hair, plays a significant role in her identity.
- Irene believes that colour in the workplace is underrated.
- The future of in-house practice will likely involve AI and technology.
- Building a supportive network is crucial for resilience in the legal profession.
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @careerbigsis
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be a lawyer today!
47. Navigating Life After Corporate: A Personal Journey with Mel
2026/01/07
In this episode, your host, Mel Storey, reflects on her transition from corporate life to building a new career as a content creator and media company. She shares her experiences, the challenges faced and the lessons learned during this journey so far.
Mel discusses the importance of leadership, personal growth, and the need for better support within the legal profession. She also highlights her future aspirations, including the development of resources for law students and the importance of community engagement.
TAKEAWAYS:
- The transition from corporate life can be challenging and filled with mixed emotions.
- Rest is essential after leaving a high-pressure environment.
- Building a new career requires resilience and adaptability.
- Lawyers often struggle with identity confusion and burnout.
- Leadership is about making decisions and influencing others, not just holding a title.
- Clear information and support are crucial for lawyers navigating their careers.
- Community feedback is vital for personal and professional growth.
- The legal profession is evolving, and new pathways are emerging.
- It's important to recognise the value of legal judgment over mere output.
- Engaging with diverse voices in the legal field enriches the profession.
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @careerbigsis
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be a lawyer today!
46. In-House Outside the Box: Heather Stevenson on leaving BigLaw, Career Pivots and in-house practice in VC land
2025/11/12
In this episode, Mel connects with Boston-based lawyer and creator Heather Stevenson for a candid conversation about career reinvention, online visibility, and modern in-house leadership. Heather shares her journey from Big Law litigator at Sullivan & Cromwell to juice-bar founder to General Counsel at Red Cell Partners, a venture firm building companies in healthcare, cybersecurity and national security.
Together, they talk about taking unconventional career paths, how social media has reshaped opportunity and why being “too nice to be a lawyer” is a myth worth retiring.
Key themes:
✨ Moving from Big Law to entrepreneurship to in-house
✨ Learning business by building one
✨ The role of LinkedIn in modern career growth
✨ The future of in-house law and innovation
✨ Purpose, identity, and redefining professional success
Outsourcing, boundaries and building systems that work for your life
Favourite moments:
Heather explaining how she pitched her way into the Boston Globe after running a juice bar
Why she believes “done” is better than “perfect” on LinkedIn and in leadership
Her philosophy on using LinkedIn as scalable mentoring
The rise of GC-plus roles like GC-COO and GC-Chief Strategy Officer
Why “too nice to be a lawyer” is not a weakness
Connect with Heather:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherlstevenson/
Subscribe to her newsletter: https://www.newsletter.inhouseoutsidethebox.com/subscribe
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram: @careerbigsis
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be a lawyer today!
45. Next Gen Legend: Chloe Giamadakis on balancing ambition, study and making your mark early
2025/10/30
In this episode, Chloe Giamadakis shares her journey in the legal field, discussing her ambition, the importance of a supportive network and how she overcomes "imposter syndrome".
She emphasises the value of continuous learning and the significance of working in a meaningful industry to you.
Chloe also provides insights into regulatory work and offers advice for aspiring lawyers, highlighting the importance of networking and gaining practical experience.
Happy Birthday Chloe and enjoy planning your upcoming wedding! We love a #2026Bride
Connect with Chloe:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-giamadakis-a1953a159/
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram: @careerbigsis
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be a lawyer today!
44. Leading with Heart: Mel asks Simon Playford all about lawyerin' in the not for profit world
2025/10/14
In this episode, Mel sits down with Brisbane-based in-house lawyer and all round good human Simon Playford to explore what it means to bring purpose, agility and humanity to legal work.
Simon’s career has spanned private practice, commercial and IP law and now the not-for-profit sector with the Heart Foundation, an organisation that means a great deal to him personally.
Together, they talk about moving from corporate to cause-driven work, the realities of in-house life in a charity and how lawyers can make a difference without sacrificing professional growth.
Mel also announces that she’s donating $1 for every download of this episode within the first 24 hours to the Heart Foundation. 💖
Key themes:
✨ Making the leap from corporate to not-for-profit law
✨ How to measure impact without billables
✨ Purpose-driven careers and redefining success
✨ Agility, imperfection and “good enough” lawyering
✨ Building community in the in-house and NFP space
✨ Why connection is at the heart of great legal work
This is a full-circle story about purpose, legacy and finding meaning in work
Connect with Simon:
LinkedIn
Donate or learn more about the foundation here
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide here!
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melstorey
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram: @careerbigsis
43. Life after Law: from General Counsel to Chief Operations Officer with Anna Tichborne
2025/10/01
In this episode of the Counsel Podcast, Mel reunites with long-time friend and former colleague Anna Tichborne for a candid conversation about career evolution, leadership and the courage to step outside the traditional lawyer path.
Anna’s career has spanned more than two decades across New Zealand, Australia and the US. From General Counsel to Chief Operations Officer and now building her own consulting practice, she has consistently embraced change, backed herself and carved out space beyond the confines of “lawyer in a box.”
Together, we dive into:
Anna’s transition from GC to COO and what it’s like to move from advising to decision-making
The mindset shifts needed to step into executive leadership outside of legal
Learning to let go of the lawyer identity while still drawing on those skills
The role of mentors, sponsors and having someone in your corner who sees your potential
What skills transfer seamlessly from law to operations, and what you need to unlearn
Anna’s current chapter working with early-stage businesses and tech founders
Why culture, people, and community are the real drivers of successful organisations
This episode is packed with insights for lawyers curious about broader executive opportunities or anyone navigating identity shifts and new career chapters.
Resources and Links:
Connect with Anna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-tichborne-a9647946/
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code BigSisEnergy for a special discount)
All of Mel's Big Sis Briefings can be found here: https://www.counselpodcast.com/big-sis-briefings
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @theinhouselawyer
Subscribe to the Counsel Podcast so you don’t miss upcoming conversations with leaders who are redefining what it means to be a lawyer today.
42. WE ARE BACK! SEASON FIVE! MEL GIVES YOU A BIG LIFE UPDATE AND WHAT IS COMING THIS SEASON
2025/09/19
The Counsel Podcast is back for Season 5! In this opening episode, Mel Storey shares a deeply personal update: leaving her role as Head of Legal (APAC) at Pax8 to step into self-employment for the very first time.
Mel reflects on:
Why she chose to resign after 15 years in the law
The breadcrumb trail of signs that told her it was time for a reset
What it feels like to de-institutionalise from corporate life
The messy but exciting process of building a portfolio career
How this podcast planted the seed for coaching, content and speaking
What’s coming up in Season 5, including incredible guests and honest solo episodes
This is an honest behind-the-scenes look at career change, identity and learning to back yourself even when you don’t have the whole map.
Resources and Links:
Download the New to In-House Survival Guide: https://www.counselpodcast.com/store/p/newtoinhouse (use code Big Sis Energy for a special discount)
Connect with Mel:
[website link] | [LinkedIn] | [Instagram] | [TikTok]
Subscribe so you don’t miss upcoming episodes featuring in-house leaders, founders and lawyers taking unconventional paths.
41. Brief it out: Mel asks litigator, law firm founder and social media savant, James D'Apice, how the best in house lawyers work with outside counsel
2024/05/01
James d'Apice is a commercial and litigation lawyer who recently launched a new law firm, Gravamen.
James is also passionate about sharing engaging and nuanced legal updates through his video series 'Coffee and a Case Note' which you can find wherever you get your social media fix.
Mel gets the inside scoop from James on everything from rap battles to his new law firm and working with external counsel.
Connect with James:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesdapice/
Instagram: @coffeeandacasenote
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @theinhouselawyer
40. “I get to combine my passion and purpose” - Mel asks General Counsel Elisabeth Flett about Building a Purposeful Legal Career | Interview
2024/03/25
About Our Guest:
Elisabeth Flett is the General Counsel and Company Secretary of Cancer Council NSW.
Elisabeth and Mel discuss finding purpose and passion in your career, including Elisabeth's break from the law to study veterinary science and what drew her back to legal practice. Elisabeth was recently awarded 2023 General Counsel of the Year by the Association of Corporate Counsel.
Connect with Elisabeth:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabethflett/
Instagram: @the.me.shaped.lawyer
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram & TikTok: @theinhouselawyer
39. “I’m not here to teach the world a lesson. I’m just here to be me” - Mel asks Legal Counsel Yosr Hamza about working in the Middle East, Legal Careers and Caregiving | Interview
2024/02/27
About Our Guest:
Yosr Hamza is Head of Legal and Director of Legal and Compliance at Gartner.
In addition to her work as a lawyer and business advisor, Yosr is a proud caregiver and advocate for her son, who lives with a rare disease.
Connect with Yosr:
Blog: https://docket.acc.com/author/yosr-hamza
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yosrhamza/
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/
Instagram: @theinhouselawyer
Support:
Thank you to Markster for supporting this episode. Visit markster.com.au or email [email protected].
Thank you also to InCounsel for supporting this episode. Visit incounsel.com.au for more.
38. Having fun and doing good: working in NFP and the public service with Movember's Cate Bennett
2023/12/09
Cate Bennett is currently Global General Counsel & Company Secretary for Movember, a Not-For-Profit operating across six jurisdictions with a focus on men's health.
Cate also has a background in the public sector, having worked across public transport, justice and health services
Movember is the leading charity changing the face of men's health working across mental health & suicide prevention as well as prostate and testicular cancer support.
To see more of their work, and to donate or get involved, visit their website https://au.movember.com/about/testicular-cancer
Connect with Cate
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catebennett/
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast Page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/67479008/admin/feed/posts/?feedType=following
Instagram: @theinhouselawyer
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Thank you to Markster for supporting this episode. Visit markster.com.au or email [email protected].
Thank you to InCounsel for supporting this episode too. Visit incounsel.com.au.
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37. BONUS: NFT LAND, VEECON, LEGAL TECH CONFERENCE REVIEW & MEL'S FIRST KEYNOTE!
2022/05/16
BONUS EPISODE WHILE MEL DISTRACTS HERSELF FROM PRE-TRAVEL COVID TEST ANXIETY.... (UPDATE: NEGATIVE COVID - OFF TO THE US!)
Resources mentioned in this episode:
@veecon
https://veecon.co/
NFT projects (DYOR, not financial advice)
- VeeFriends
- EveryDay Sloths
- World Of Women
- Boss Beauties
- Dapper Dinos
NFT resources:
- OpenSea.io (NFT ebay)
Legal Tech conference:
- https://www.legalops.fm/
- https://www.lexcheck.com/
- https://ironcladapp.com/journal/contract-management/what-is-contract-management/
- https://www.amazon.com.au/Tomorrows-Lawyers-Introduction-Your-Future/dp/019966806X
- https://www.amazon.com.au/World-Without-Work-Technology-Automation/dp/0141986808/ref=asc_df_0141986808/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=463879774783&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4152845110137765068&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9069264&hvtargid=pla-919268624784&psc=1
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-podcast
Instagram: @theinhouselawyer
TikTok: @theinhouselawyer
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Thank you to Markster for supporting this season. Visit markster.com.au or email [email protected].
Thank you to InCounsel for supporting this season too. Visit incounsel.com.au.
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36. Legal vs Sales, Mel asks a Sales Manager, David Ball, the questions all in house lawyers wish they could ask
2022/05/08
Dave is currently Founder & CEO of drop-in social audio platform, Longtime, as well as Co-Founder of first-contact messaging tool, Chatclub.
Prior to starting Longtime & Chatclub, Dave led the APAC commercial team at Megaport (ASX: MP1) where he and Mel cultivated a collaborative relationship between the sales and legal teams based on mutual respect and trust.
He also served as a Founding Board Member of Fintech Australia from 2015-2018.
Dave has worked in sales, growth and commercial roles since graduating from the Queensland University of Technology with a Bachelor of Biotechnology Innovation (Hons).
Connect with Dave:
Website: Hey.me/dave
Also, check out https://longtime.live/
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-podcast
Instagram: @theinhouselawyer
www.counselpodcast.com for more resources and episodes
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Thank you to Markster for supporting this episode. Visit markster.com.au or email [email protected].
Thank you to InCounsel for supporting this episode too. Visit incounsel.com.au.
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35. Why starting your career in house makes sense and all things content creation with Emma Lilley
2022/04/24
Emma Lilley is the Sole Legal Counsel (UK&I) at SD Worx, the Founder of In-house Potter Blog and Instagram community and a O Shaped Lawyer Future Board member.
Mel originally connected with Emma on Instagram. She creates content for aspiring solicitors and shares her unique career journey so that the next generation come into the law with a greater awareness of in house practice and how to forge a less traditional pathway after law school.
Connect with Emma:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-lilley-0441ba82/
Instagram: @inhousepotter
Website: https://inhousepotter.com/
Connect with Mel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theinhouselawyer/
Counsel Podcast page on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-podcast
Instagram: @theinhouselawyer
www.counselpodcast.com for more resources and episodes
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Thank you to Markster for supporting this episode. Visit markster.com.au or email [email protected].
Thank you to InCounsel for supporting this episode too. Visit incounsel.com.au.
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Podcast reviews
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YourPotentialforEverything 2021/05/13
Great show
Mel curates wonderful guests and she is all about the human first. I love her style!
Niadancer 2021/04/22
Love it!
One of my favorite podcasts. Mel’s style of questioning is so warm and engaging and she has amazing guests with interesting backgrounds and insights t...
JBNEPDX 2020/07/02
Great series!!
I really like this series. Working in business development, I interface with our in house legal on various issues. So far, this series has really bee...
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