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Send us a text multidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross Smith Show Notes: 2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration 7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues  9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture 14:30 employing technology with storytelling 20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata 24:40 “art” and “data” as information  27:50 “human authorship” and copyright  34:25 bias proliferation with AI 39:40 power of art and media to raise awareness  44:50 “restorative justice” to mitigate and deter harm so individuals can flourish 54:00 current and future projects, including Got the Power Boomboxes: Sugar Cane and Cotton, Hip Hop 50 Boombox, video game project and collaboration with legal community Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Please visit Steven Gambardella's site here to learn more.  Show Notes: 1:15 background in the arts 4:00 Dutch philosopher Spinoza’s parallels with Hellenistic philosophies 5:20 Gambardella’s Become As You Are 7:30 “Stoic Kitsch” blog post  9:00 individual agency and collective action 11:00 crisis of agency 11:20 emergence of stoicism 14:00 four-fold root of virtue 20:10 four facets of autonomy, perspective, objectivity and control and their relation to the four virtues of wisdom, moderation, justice and courage/fearlessness 21:25 Steven's blog  21:45 Stoic view of justice relates to ignorance 26:00 moralism 27:00 Seneca, tutor and advisor to Roman emperor Nero 32:00 applying ancient Stoic ideas in current day 35:35 Stoicism and Philosophy Reading Group  38:30 summary of Stoicism: Virtue is the only good; and you have full control over the domain of your soul/your “inner citadel” 40:20 Stoicism at a crossroads  43:45 his hope to contribute to a revolution of the soul that encourages a view of the world that is more holistic and spiritual 45:40 Question from Susanne van der Meer about the paradox in Stoicism about the responsibility of agency versus a Stoic view of incarceration  55:00 Stoic view of fear and desire 1:00:00 Comments from Emily Gould Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text IP attorney Massimo Sterpi Massimo Sterpi photo by Eolo Perfido  Show Notes: 1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech 2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues 3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac's transgenic work 4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area 5:10 generative AI and copyright 6:20 copyrighted works as training data  12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in GEMA v. OpenAI (Case No. 42 O 14139/24) 14:20 fair use in the US 17:05 copyright of outputs 23:55 "A Single Piece of American Cheese" 26:00 Gema decision’s impact on OpenAI’s business model 29:00 UK decision in Getty v. Stability AI 32:30 harmonisation  34:20 collective licensing as a solution for AI training 36:20 view of justice/injustice with emerging tech in the arts 38:40 cultural impact of emerging tech 42:00 Christie’s auction of "Portrait of Edmond de Belamy" 43:40 2024 Venice Biennale - The Conference on Art and AI’s “The Neo-Synthetic: A Dialogue on Art, A.I., and Emergent Aesthetics” 44:30 expanding area regarding the roles involved in outputs 46:40 authenticity becoming enigmatic 47:00 attempts to create digital scarcity 47:55 different standards of creativity  48:30 neighboring rights for AI 50:00 Italy’s protection of “simple photographs” versus “photographic works” 50:40 UK’s Section 9(3) copyright of outputs fictionally attributed to human involved 52:40 Agentic AI   Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Link here to learn more about Marina Heintze. Show Notes: 1:00 Heintze’s background in the arts 2:30 sculptures of Heintze's father 3:30 Heintze’s use of materials 5:30 current events addressed in Heintze’s work 6:20 Politics series – gerrymandering 7:25 Bullet proof vests – assassinations and deviseness  7:45 Holocaust addressed in her work like “Gentian Violet Violence” 8:30 "Yitler” and “Dog Whistle” pieces 9:50 Heintze’s family research that led her to work with bone planters 11:20 archival research used in her work 13:35 "The eyes are the windows to the neshama/soul"   15:20 Lure series regarding nefarious organizations  19:50 how/whether her works address justice/injustice 21:50 work related to B2 bombers 22:50 Tunnel Talk / Vision series 27:25 feedback on Tunnel Talk / Vision series 31:40 Banksy image removed from Royal Courts of Justice  34:15 Holocaust denial and free speech 36:40 Alan Robertshaw – importance of work on the Holocaust 38:45 David Irving v Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt – 1996 UK Judgment  42:20 facts of genocide/terrorist acts  48:10 camouflage IP 50:30 design of Arab nation flags Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Photographer credit for Anja Neubauer: self-portrait created with an AI tool. Show Notes: 2:30 Prof. Tim McFarlin’s focus on copyright and authorship 3:30 Dr. Caterina Moruzzi’s philosophical/design perspective / focus on authenticity 5:00 Dr. Anja Neubauer's focus on global AI/copyright framework 5:50 Artist Lisa Lebofsky’s perspective on AI as a nomadic painter 8:45 “Authenticity Unmasked”–looking at the artistic process not the product 9:55 “Authenticity Unmasked” insight-centrality of human perspective 12:00 Neubauer–redefinition of terms like originality in light of emerging tech 13:30 Getty v. Stability finding  outputs are not copies so not infringements 14:55 McFarland–genAI’s scale and redefining understanding of terms 17:05 US state and federal laws  19:00 need for unified global protection 19:50 Alan Robershaw – UK Getty decision’s technical focus on the process  21:40 Defining originality  22:10 Getty opinion at 601 v. AI models are memorizing/making copies  24:00 Robertshaw - one step away from judicial definition of consciousness 24:40 McFarland – scale is the concern 25:35 Lebofsky – how prior claims of infringement fit into AI/appropriation of artists’ works 26:20 McFarland – ‘substantially similar’ takings are prima facie infringement subject to fair use defense 27:10 consideration of outputs flooding the market harm  29:25 Lebofsky – use of AI through tools like AI Charm Lab app  31:00 Lebofsky’s view of threats to her style and her language  32:45 human requirement for ‘authorship’ and consumer trends 35:55 Moruzzi – human effort to value the process 37:15 Process visible in generative AI circa 2015 v. current genAI’s less visibility and thus less authenticity 38:30 Anthroprocentric – human need for authorship 40:20 Robershaw - Monkey-selfie case; animal versus machine personhood  43:15 McFarland – Arkansas statute on AI 44:40 Gould – UK Section 9(3) - limited copyright for output in person who organized the output 45:00 Neubauer – issue of term “equipment” for tools  46:50 Gould – current copyright legislation is not fit for purpose 48:35 Distinction between camera use and AI model training 49:05 Copyright Criminals documentary regarding music sampling  50:00 Sampling case involving Kraftwerk  51:35 Moruzzi – response to consultations 53:00 McFarland – extent of law v. parallel tracks to copyright or other alternatives to preserve and protect human creativity 54:00 Stefania Salles Bruins–solutions outside the law 54:40 Copyright not fit for purpose  55:20 Neubauer - Shift in definition of artwork 55:45 Lebofsky – how to establish boundaries 57:25 Robertshaw re: Leb Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Show Notes: 1:45 Lawrence Badzin - introduction of The Surviving Project 5:45 three parts of Through Their Eyes Exhibition 7:00 Wings of Hope messages 9:00 stories from the delegation 10:15 exhibition mission 11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto 12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost 15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on 16:30 legacy of the exhibition  18:00 Through Their Eyes Exhibition Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Oluwatobi Aluko photo by Praise Samuel Show Notes: 2:50 Tobi Aluko–Nigerian copyright  5:30 Nigeria’s national AI strategy and creative sector  7:25 Emily Gould – query on tech sector’s strength in Nigeria 9:40 debate over UK’s copyright provision for machine-generated work 11:40 Johan Brandstedt - Sweden’s approach to copyright  13:40 Czech Republic case on AI and copyrightability  16:40 Aluko – prompting versus creating art that involves effort/process 19:00 US copyright for A Single Piece of American Cheese  20:30 Prof. Ahmed Elgammal - background of AI use in the arts 23:45 19th C. French case on copyright of photographs that show originality  24:45 US refusal to copyright AI outputs  26:35 Bartz v. Anthropic and Kadrey v. Meta  30:45 AICAN project 32:55 GAN-based art movement celebrated prior to prompting 33:55 “Text-to-Image Generators Have Altered the Digital Art Landscape—But Killed Creativity. Here’s Why an Era of A.I. Art Is Over” 34:25 artists survey on value from AI 37:15 backlash of Christies’ auction of Generative AI works  41:50 Elgammal – effort versus intentionality e.g., DuChamp/ready-made art 42:30 intentionality and agency missing with prompting and random output  51:40 AI's cultural impact  1:04:30 Beethoven X project  Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Show Notes: 1:30 background 2:45 shift to add activist element to her art 4:00 response to 7 October 2023 during residency at LMCC 5:30 ‘artivism’ 5:45 workshop at Israeli American Council event 6:45 Rosh Hashanah gift for families of hostages 9:00 how her work facilitates justice 12:30 defining justice through recognition and healing 13:20 work as a curator to connect voices 13:50 “Artists on Antisemitism” exhibition 15:00 co-curated with director of Jewish Art Salon 15:40 LA-based artist Marina Heinze included in exhibition  15:45 Joan Roth 17:30 Ronit’s “David” kisses painting included in exhibition 19:40 Chai meaning alive 19:50 use of technology in her work as a bridge for global participation 21:40 heat-activated work that shows happiness levels like mood rings 23:25 Stefania Salles Bruins: connection between art and justice making whole 26:00 work by Marina Heinze in Artists on Antisemitism exhibition 27:10 other exhibitions she has curated 27:50 work in the antisemitism exhibition 28:40 fellowship in Germany in collaboration with German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) - art's importance in memory and justice 29:00 urgency of keeping the Holocaust alive in the conversation today 29:45 murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska 30:00 to hold and carry memory forward to inspire vigilance and resilence 30:40 artists as witnesses of our time and responsibility to be an activist 32:00 “Wandering Jew” project for 2026 Jerusalem Biennale 34:00 Drawdy’s definition of justice 34:50 Drawdy’s focus on stories to highlight 35:20 Alan Robertshaw’s comments 36:00 art speaking for itself 36:50 “Written in Water” and “Project Forgiveness” - 2018 NY Spring/Break Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Cover photograph credit: Jessica Minor Link to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available here. Show Notes: 1:20 intro and background 2:40 Slide 4 - Overview of Part I: 6 & ½ tips & tricks: 1 – perspective & point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line 5:00 Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes 6:35 thickness of paint 7:00 blending with dry brush 8:00 Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering 9:40 ‘fat over lean’ rule 11:15 scumble – layer of opaque white  11:30 glaze – transparent layer over an underpainting 12:40 Slide 7: Point 9 - Paint as a Language 15:50 Slide 8: Point 10 - The Figure 19:45 Slide 9: Point 11 – The Palette 32:40 glazing  33:50 Slide 10: Point 12 – Studio Practice 42:50 figurative group show with artist from Hip Bone Art Studio 43:45 process of applying to shows 45:00 narrative/figurative and surrealist approach to still life work 46:05 artist statements 48:45 sharing WIP and final works 51:20 connection to the cranial optic nerve – thinking with our eyes when painting 1:00:00 painting from imagination with focus on ‘technique in service of art’ 1:02:10 how to deal with writers’ block and painters’ block Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Cover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography  Show notes: 2:00 Museum of Southern Jewish Experience beginning 2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of Institute of Southern Jewish Life  3:30 4th year in New Orleans 4:50 MSJE’s mission 5:45 Chapman Family Research Center 6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts 7:20 genealogy workshops 10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug 12:30 collection digitization  13:35 Jewish orphans’ home exhibition 14:30 MSJE’s film 15:20 A Better Life for Their Children exhibition 18:00 Greetings From Main Street exhibition 22:00 French Jews from Alsace-Lorraine 23:00 Central European Jews  23:55 Galveston Plan – Rabbi Henry Cohen 26:00 New Americans exhibition at St. Charles Parish Library 26:30 love story of Joseph Sperling and Anni Frind  36:00 New American Clubs 38:00 relevance of Holocaust survivors’ stories 39:45 rapid response collecting  41:00 view of justice  42:00 lynching of Leo Frank and southern Jewish mayors 44:00 social justice 44:50 Howard Turner – rapid response collecting 45:00 Emily Gould – slave trader memorials, e.g., Colston Statue in Bristol 48:00 Confederate statues built often by the Daughters of the Confederacy 50:45 future exhibition by MSJE on current war 52:00 Turner: school visits at MSJE 53:45 MSJE hours 54:35 Shalom Y’all video, etc. on MSJE site 56:00 visit to MSJE  56:55 interactive map on St. Charles streetcar line 57:30 New Americans - upcoming MSJE exhibition  Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text To learn more, please visit Dr. Hartung's site. 2:30 Jonathan Petropoulos' Faustian Bargain: The Art World in Nazi Germany 2:50 Hartung’s 2005 book, Art Theft in War and Persecution 3:25 representation in 2014 of Cornelius Gurlitt regarding the Gurlitt Trove 5:20 Gurlitt exemplifies issues with Germany’s soft law towards art restitution 6:50 twelve works from Gurlitt Trove confirmed as looted 7:15 works from Gurlitt Trove with historical gaps in provenance 8:50 Germany’s task force – 5 million Euros 10:20 degenerate art in Gurlitt Trove 11:10 works on loan from private collections seized as degenerate 11:40 Paul Klee’s “Swamp Legend” from Sophie Küppers 13:30 Kandinsky’s “The Colorful Life”–Irma Klein / Lewenstein Family 17:10 Germany’s shift from advisory commission to an arbitration tribunal 22:30 restitution of “The Colorful Life" 23:40 "Blick in Ebene" by Paul Adolf Seehaus to Koppel heirs 24:10 Gibb's "Aeneas and his Family Fleeing Burning Troy" to Hartveld heirs 24:35 Sir Justice Moses, chair of UK’s Spoliation Advisory Panel 26:00 restitution-Waldmüller’s “Young Girl with Her Family” looted from Teresa Belthower; acquired by Nazi photographer Heinrich Hoffmann 28:00 looted art scandal at Bavarian State Painting Collections 30:50 suit over Friedrich von Amerling’s “Girl with a Straw Hat” 37:05 Emily Gould–restitution by Bavaria versus other German states 39:55 no formal restitution schemes in Spain and Belgium 41:25 whistleblower from Bavarian State Painting Collections 42:50 Markus Stötzel, attorney for Flechtheim heirs 44:00 Picasso’s “Madame Soler” taken from Paul von Mendelssohn-Bartholdy; Bavaria refused to accept its body’s restitution recommendation 47:20 Hartung’s view of justice 48:00 Germany’s arbitration system-public versus private holders of work 50:40 new framework’s guidelines-presumptions and burden 53:55 new framework’s guidelines-dealers and work on commission 55:50 Hartung’s hope to contribute to higher justice and remembrance 57:20 Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text To learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit here and here. Cover Image: Wistuba's adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898). Show Notes 0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists 1:15 Wistuba’s background 2:30 Gabriele Münter 4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning  6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-1918 8:30 research process 12:00 regional approach to research 15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research 16:30 finding that art is not gendered 18:15 Charlotte Corinth 21:30 Dora Hitz 22:40 Maria Slavona 24:25 Augusta von Zitzewitz 25:20 Erma Bossi 26:25 Elisabeth Epstein 27:23 Maria Franck-Marc 30:30 Gabriele Münter 32:25 Elisabeth Erdmann-Macke 34:25 Ida Gerhardi  36:30 Fifi Kreutzer 37:55 Olga Openheimer 40:30 range of resources  43:30 Blue Rider Group 45:30 Gabriele Münter’s donation to Lenbachhaus (Munich)  49:00 Museum Art of the Lost Generation  51:30 current relevance 53:30 need for discourse on art’s social context 55:08 social justice for artists of the past 55:20 defining justice as respect shown to all 56:25 feedback 58:10 challenging the sexist paradigm that art is gendered 59:40 plans to convert thesis into book 1:00:15 derogatory nature of term ‘Malweiber’ 1:01:45 cover image inspired by Julie Wolfthorn’s image        Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text Show notes: 0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana  2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani's background 3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background 5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani 7:10 overview of Curia Lab 9:40 Informatics, the science of information 11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery  15:10 participants in Syrian project   17:20 Syrian project – evidence on whether there is a connection between Syrian civilian fatalities/casualties and cultural heritage looting 22:45 prelude hypothesis  27:50 war in Ukraine and its effects on Ukrainian culture 32:00 how the data is used to inform accountability  34:30 Greenland’s work with Conflict Observatory Ukraine 36:00 Ukrainians’ current restitution, reparations and accountability efforts 37:50 user guides for each area  42:30 Fabiani’s PhD project on Egyptian archeological looting  44:00 current project that builds on PhD project  46:00 impact of technology on their approach, including disinformation  50:00 complications created by AI, including generative AI 54:00 perspective of skepticism required  56:30 online risks and need for mitigation 58:15 how their work speaks to justice 58:30 Miranda Fricker’s book Epistemic Injustice: Power and the Ethics of Knowing 1:02:30 questions of justice for whom  1:05:30 Lauren Stein: question on the role of universities in Curia Lab 1:07:50 hope for their work to establish frameworks of cooperation and collaboration that cherish equal access to knowledge/information that would then lead to equal access to accountability  1:09:10 hope for their work to facilitate a shift to a multi-disciplinary approach  Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text SHOW NOTES: 0:00 artist & attorney Gina McKlveen 1:05 artist & retired judge Jerry Alonzo - the impact of depression 3:00 documentary American Symphony  3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer  6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance”  6:40 “Civic Sacrement" 8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge  9:00 “The Jury Box”  10:45 “The Judgment”  11:45 “Justice is God’s Plumb Line”  12:30 Environmental works like “Monstronse”   13:15 “Justice?”  14:15 “Passage” 14:40 “Faltering” 16:00 “Arc” 16:25 asylum work inspired “Matthew 25”  20:30 importance of leaning into the pain 21:35 Emily Gould’s comments 23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art 26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work 26:45 “Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow  27:20 “Inflated Balloons”  27:50 Carnegie International  28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss 29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof”  37:45 “Mermaid Mama” 39:25 “Stay Wild” 40:15 “Heather’s Mama” 42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents 44:50 portraiture versus still life works 47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh 48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen 49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen 49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

Send us a text To learn more, please visit Father Harmon's site. Show notes: 1:15 Harmon’s background and work as priest since 2008 2:10 teaching fine arts and being a pastoral resource at Loyola University 3:00 his work in the arts 8:20 history of art in Jesuit community  12:00 Daniel Segers, Jesuit Priest and artist  12:30  Harmon’s process as a painter in light of being a ‘work of service’ 16:00 Harmon’s painting from pilgrimage through Spain 17:30 students’ responses 19:15 his attendance at New York Academy of Art   23:30 Jerry Alonzo: how to communicate through your art 26:45 Pope Benedict XVI’s Encyclical Letter Caritas in Veritate  28:20 definition of ‘sacred art’ 30:30 seeking social justice through art 32:00 his work in Brownsville, TX connected to his art 33:00 his series of Catholic objects 35:30 his balance of time 37:25 Alan Robertshaw’s comments about all art being sacred 42:10 Tolkien and Flannery O’Connor on religious imagination 44:00 incorporating Catholic objects into his work 46:50 Emily Gould - spiritual impact of artwork/architecture/nature 49:15 Jarnick Vitters - importance of the physical objects to Harmon’s faith 51:00 Alan Robertshaw - subjective importance of objects 53:30 Yelena Khajekian - art as a sacred endeavor 54:40 Nnebundo Obi - interest in hearing about priest’s pursuit of other vocations  Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] Music by Toulme. To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website. To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening! This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission. © Stephanie Drawdy [2025]