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Propagate is a leader in the agroforestry space, specialising in project development and planting agroforestry systems at scale. It's a huge pleasure to chat with Harry, co-founder and Chief Research Officer of the US-based company. Tune in as we geek out on agroforestry economics, economic modelling, design implications and financing options. We delve into questions such as: How do you business plan agroforestry systems? How do we find a balance between economic performance and ecosystem services? And much more! • RESOURCES https://www.propagateag.com/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode I discuss with Claire Lemarié her experience working with farmers in the Pays de la Loire region in France, where she is a technical adviser for the chamber of agriculture. She has precious insights into the management of mature hedges, as this region still has a significant amount of bocage: a traditional french hedge layout.  In this interview we gain an understanding of why effective information sharing between farmers is crucial to creating innovative agroforestry systems and how she enables peer to peer exchange through the 'Club des Agroforestiers'. • RESOURCES https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-lemari%C3%A9-34b667155/?originalSubdomain=fr Youtube video Chambre d'agriculture de la Loire • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coppicing is an ancient and modern tree management system. Coppicing is known for its multi-functionality: capable of producing biomass, animal forage, firewood and much more. Today we interview Mark Krawczyk, practitioner, consultant and author of 'Coppice Agroforestry'. In this interview we tackle some of the practical challenges of coppicing, to better understand the economic potential of this technique. Mark demonstrates a variety of nuances and compromises, showing us the versatility as well as the key challenges of this technique. TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:02:22 Introduction 00:13:19 What are the key concepts of coppicing 00:27:50 What impact on tree health?  00:39:12 What prospects for mechanising management?  00:51:44 What uses for coppiced wood?  01:17:42 What effect of coppicing on surrounding plants?  01:22:24 Productivity of coppice stands 01:29:14 In relation to soil types • RESOURCES https://www.keylinevermont.com/ http://www.coppiceagroforestry.com/ https://regenerativeskills.com/mark-krawczyk-on-coppice-agroforestry-and-woodland-management-part-1/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bruce Maynard and his family are livestock managers and row crop farmers in New South Wales in Austalia. Over his carreer, he has succesfully integrated shrubs and trees to their livestock and row crop operation. He has been able to double his stocking rate through increasing the ecological function of the farm. We dig deep into the design of his tree systems and how it has evloved over the years. We unpack in detail how he has been able to transform his landscape on such a large scale and how this was possible from a business perspective.  TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:01:21 Bruce's story and description of the farm 00:10:06 No-kill cropping 00:15:05 Complexifying the landscape 00:22:57 Design over time 00:30:19 Taking machinery into account 00:37:57 Specifics of saltbush 00:42:30 Recovery times between bush and pasture 00:54:06 Microclimatic benefits 00:57:30 Planting trees at scale and its logistics 01:10:30 Management of trees/shrubs 01:16:00 Business strategy and cashflow 01:19:32 Ressources to go further • RESOURCES http://selfherding.com/index.html https://stressfreestockmanship.com.au/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzo0fDBZs0 • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What have we learnt from 30 years at one of the most prominent agroforestry research sites in the world? In collaboration with AGROMIX, We are excited to present an interview with Christian Dupraz, a leading agroforestry researcher from INRAE Montpellier. This is one of our rare 'in person' interviews where we discussed years of findings under the alley cropping walnut trees of the Domaine de Restinclières. We analysed many technical details such as tree - crop competition, tree pruning and adapted tree species. We also discussed socio-economic aspects such as the relationship with the local farmers and the reason why alley cropping systems have not yet been scaled. Enjoy! TABLE OF CONTENTS 02:25 Introduction 11:12 Experiment today 13:38 Growth rate of trees 17:43 Impact of AF on the quality of the wood 20:13 Considerations to produce a straight trunk 00:22 Impact on arable crop  00:26:45 Competition between crop and tree 00:30:18 Effect of pollarding on tree quality 00:33:56 How do the trees effect the row crop farmer?  00:38:08 How would tree crops fare in alley cropping?  00:39:32 Increase in bat population and its benefits 00:44:36 Main mistakes  00:48:05 What context for alley cropping to be successful?  00:56:30 Why do we not see more alley cropping? • RESOURCES https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christian-Dupraz-3 https://agromixproject.eu/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture • FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR COLLABORATION WITH AGROMIX HERE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Conventional viticulture and its intensive management has created some important challenges for wine producers and the regions where they are located. Jean-Baptiste Cordonnier has been able to intimately experience the conventional approach, seeing the fertility and biodiversity of his family's château gradually degrade. For the first time since the start of the show, we are able to delve into the story of an incredible viticulture agroforestry transition. With cover crops, hedges and alley cropping, Jean-Baptiste is innovating new solutions for a management intensive crop. We delve into the story, context, agronomy and practical details of his strategy, for an interview rich in experiences and lessons learnt. TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:02:55 Introduction 00:07:53 Trial and error to find regenerative solutions 00:13:39 Effects of planting hedges on the vineyard 00:23:08 Design process 00:36:58 Managing weeds and pruning hedges 00:43:33 Managing the pruning at scale 00:48:12 Mulching and the importance of cover crops 01:04:02 Trees planted within the vineyard 01:10:35 What are the expected agronomic results?  01:16:49 Why advantages outweigh challenges  01:21:23 Looking at the economics 01:31:16 Are neighbouring vineyards interested? 01:34:20 What effect do you expect on the quality of wine? • RESOURCES https://chateauanthonic.com/en/ https://www.instagram.com/chateau_anthonic/ https://www.facebook.com/chateauanthonic/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I am today with Richard Perkins from Ridgedale Farm in Sweden. For those who do not know, Richard is a leading educator and author in the field of regenerative agriculture, specialising in human scale enterprises. We discuss the tree systems he has planted on his farm, and more specifically the opportunity of integrating trees to market gardening and pastured poultry, two of his key enterprises. Richard is also an educator with the mission of helping farmers to build and manage successful small scale farms. He is therefore the ideal guest to have a conversation on how to make small scale agroforestry systems viable, and their place in the farm strategy. TABLE OF CONTENTS 01:41Richard’s story 05:45 What perennial systems on the farm?  16:08 What place for perennial crops in your long term strategy?  21:30 How do you manage your skill set?  26:07 What oportunity for low managment tree plantings?  31:00 How do you balance complexifying your ecology and maintaining efficiency?  35:48 How to intergrate trees in your market garden?  37:35 Trees and pastured poultry  41:06 How do you make agroforestry profitable on a small scale?   44:32 Funding tree plantations 48:41 Where should we prioritise planting trees in the landscape?   • RESOURCES https://www.richardperkins.co/ https://www.youtube.com/c/RichardPerkinsofRidgedale/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today we continue investigating Syntropic Farming with Daniel from the Mata do Lobo farm in Brasil. In the past 4 years, they have been working solutions to scale these complex agroforestry systems, soon reaching 50ha planted. Daniel and his partner, Maria Vittoria, have accumulated some tremendous experience as they build one of the most innovative coffee plantations out there. In this episode, you will find out what is the difference between the health and quality of agroforestry coffee and conventional coffee. You will also understand how they are striking a balance between efficiency and complexity - in order to integrate the principles of Syntropic whilst managing these systems at scale. This was a highly practical conversation, inspired by the questions we received from our listeners on social media. We hope you enjoy! TABLE OF CONTENTS 03:47 Daniel’s story 12:35 Objective of the agroforestry plot   16:01 How do you manage inputs?  20:02 What makes Syntropic less input intensive?  22:39 What does the agroforestry produce?  31:09 How much diversity is integrated to the coffee crop?  35:51 How is the coffee crop responding to the Syntropic system?  41:46 How are coffee yields expected to perform in comparison to conventional?     45:41 How did he plant so many trees effectively?   51:01 How many people working on the agroforestry system?  55:23 How do you manage so much biomass?  01:07:26 What harvesting process for coffee?  01:12:16 What potential of mechanisation for Syntropic systems?  01:14:57 What commercialisation strategy?  01:19:44 Is he planning a processing facility?  01:21:48 Could Syntropic systems work in a European context?   01:24:08 Where does he get knowledge from?   • RESOURCES https://www.instagram.com/matadolobo/?hl=en • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

David Brass is the CEO of the Lakes Free range egg company. Almost 30 years ago he started planting trees in the fields to encourage his laying hens to go and range. Since then, he has been busy planting trees throughout his supply chain. With about 70 farmers and 2 million birds supplying eggs to his company today, this is an example of agroforestry working at scale. The interview brings forward both practical considerations for the layout and maintenance of trees, and explains how they have managed to onboard their suppliers. David is enthusiastic about the numerous benefits trees have bought, carefully documented with various studies. He is convincd that there is a very clear case for integrating trees in all poultry production with very limited trade-offs.  TABLE OF CONTENTS 02:05 Story and overview of the company  04:08 Bringing trees onto the farm  10:14 Current design 12:16 Potential to add a perennial production?  16:51 Is it realistic to incorporate trees as part of the feed?  18:06 What does it mean practically for a poultry farmer to intergrate trees?  22:35 How are the tree plantations evolving?  27:12 Scaling tree plantations within their suppliers  30:58 Funding  34:34 Trees and animal welfare  37:00 Impact of tree planting on profitability.  39:49 Initial reluctance of some farmers  42:34 Is the agroforestry approach something that is valued by your customers?  44:18 the numerous  benefits of planting trees 46:15 Do you see payment for ecosystem services as part of your model.  50:21 Supply chain requirements are driving change  54:52 Impact of tree planting on biodiversity   • RESOURCES https://lakesfreerange.co.uk/ https://www.facebook.com/lakesfreerange/ https://www.farmtreestoair.ceh.ac.uk/ART • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Our team attended the Regenerative Agriculture and Food Systems Summit, organised by Kiasko Research in order to catalyse a regenerative transition in the food industry. The event was attended by large corporations such as Nestle, Unilever and Yara, as well as numerous companies and organisations that work actively with Regen Ag on the ground. We attended the conference as media partners, producing mini-interviews with a diversity of summit attendees. The objective of this episode is try and understand the value of the strategies being implemented by large corporations, as well as the way in which technical and specialised companies are working to scale Regen Ag. Whilst many of our listeners may not feel aligned with some of the companies we have interviewed, we believe in the value of having open and objective conversations with all players in the field, in order for each of us to form our own opinion. We also believe that the food corporations are hugely influential in the food system today, and must be considered if we are rapidly scale regenerative agriculture. We hope you enjoy this rather different episode! TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:02:08 Anne-Sophie Alibert - Pur Projet 00:10:55 Roberto Vega - Syngenta 00:20:54 Andrew Voysey - Soil Capital  00:29:15 Daniel Baertschi - Quantis 00:38:07 Bastien Sachet - Earthworm Foundation 00:52:25 Charles Leonardi - Nestlé  01:12:14 Felix Jakobsen - Klim 01:22:20 Phillipe Birker - Climate Farmers   • RESOURCES https://www.purprojet.com/ https://www.syngenta.com/en https://soilcapital.com/ https://quantis.com/ https://www.earthworm.org/ https://www.nestle.com/ https://www.klim.eco/ https://www.climatefarmers.org/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mark Shepard is the founder of the Restoration Agriculture farming method and New Forest Farm, where Mark grows food in perennial polycultures, without using external fertilisers, with very limited management activities, whilst integrating animals. In this episode, Mark shares with us the results he has achieved by actively engaging with tree crop breeding on his farm - one of the foundations of his system. Mark is also the author of two books: ‘Restoration Agriculture: Real World Permaculture for Farmers’ and ‘Water for Any Farm’. He is also the founder of Restoration Agriculture Development, an enterprises that catalyses Restoration Agriculture projects worldwide. We hope you enjoy the interview!  TABLE OF CONTENTS 02:15 How did you get to agroforestry?  10:44 What is restoration agriculture?  19:33 Low inputs and precocity of yield  31:29 Description of New Forest Farm 40:10 How do you harvest?  45:42 Managing the system 49:20 Biodiversity on the farm 57:22 Process of plant selection 01:02:40 Starting a nursery  01:07:28 Why haven’t more people replicated your system?  01:12:00 Which cultivars to include in mass selection?  01:21:19 What is the key knowledge required to get started?  • RESOURCES http://www.restorationag.com/ https://restoringagriculture.com/ https://www.forestag.com/ https://newforestfarm.us/ https://www.instagram.com/restoration.ag/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/restorationagriculture/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Michael Weitz is a European expert in fast growing biomass trees, with a special passion for Poplar. These fast growing crops are especially interesting for agroforestry systems thanks to their early returns and their capacity to produce ecosystem services early on. Furthermore, the need to find alternatives to fossil fuels and sustainable building materials is leading to evolving economic opportunities for farmers. In this interview we are hitting the nail on the head when it comes to integrating valuable tree crops on our farms! Michael has the ability to zoom into the technical details and zoom out to the bigger picture questions around biomass crops. Enjoy learning about the flexibility and beauty of poplar as well as the challenges that need to be overcome to scale these systems. This is hopefully the first of many interviews on the topic of fast growing trees! TABLE OF CONTENTS 02:41 Introduction 09:24 Biomass crops  16:45 Poplar industry and market 22:57 Flexibility of the poplar crop  29:28 Medium term cycle poplar for agroforestry  34:56 Which cycle to optimise biomass production 37:20 Management requirements  45:00 What is the minimum scale for economic viability? 53:46 Favouring medium cycle on a small scale   57:24 Planting on marginal land   01:06:58 Shouldn’t agricultural land stay dedicated to food production instead of biomass production?  01:18:42 Biomass crops and diversification  01:25:26 Carbon credits and biodiversity credits 01:28:41 Market trends on wood products  01:34:26 Can a third party implement and manage the biomass crop?  01:44:22 How can we diversify biomass species?  • RESOURCES www.lignovis.com www.lignoplant.com www.lignotech.de www.hühner-wald.de www.vivocarbon.com www.instagram.com/lignovis www.facebook.com/lignovis • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture      Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.