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In this special episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora blends tenderness with a little side-eye to unpack the generational lessons about love we absorbed — whether we asked for them or not. From family dynamics and chosen community to emotional restraint, public affection, and vulnerability, this conversation explores the quiet messages passed down through households, churches, movements, and social timelines. This isn’t just about dating. It’s about non-romantic love, self-love that isn’t performative, and the idea of love as liberation — not just aesthetic. So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials:  ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠/ ⁠@JordanHora ⁠ /  ⁠Threads:Jordan Hora⁠ / ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠ / ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores holiday reflection on rewriting joy, one tradition at a time. This episode explores how we celebrate the holidays when our lives don’t follow the traditional scripts. From sending solo holiday cards to redefining what joy looks like under your own roof, we reflect on rituals, representation, and the quiet courage it takes to show up fully in the season you're actually living not just the one people expect. Whether you’re single, starting over, thriving, or rethinking how you mark the moment, this conversation is for anyone crafting meaning in nontraditional ways. Let’s talk about the customs, courage, and creativity that help us honor the holidays on our own terms. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores the stories we’re living and the ones we’re still writing. From the actual books that have shaped us to the metaphorical chapters we’re editing in real time, we reflect on authorship, self-discovery, and what it means to turn the page even when the path ahead isn’t clear. Whether we're in a plot twist, a pause, or starting fresh, this conversation is for anyone rethinking how their story unfolds. Let’s talk about the books, beliefs, and breakthroughs that are helping us write the next chapter with intention. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores before there was Coachella, there was the Yard. From School Daze to Drum-line, this episode celebrates the fictional HBCU homecomings that shaped Black pop culture and why those onscreen celebrations still echo in our real-life traditions today. Jordan reflects on how homecoming isn’t just a party, but a political, spiritual, and cultural pilgrimage. And we ask: what are we coming home to now? What’s worth preserving, remixing, or retiring in how we show up for one another? So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores how we didn’t just wake up in a world where truth feels optional, manipulation is profitable, and dysfunction is binge-worthy—it happened moment by moment. This installment will trace 15 cultural, political, and tech-driven shifts that slowly unraveled our collective sense of what’s ethical, acceptable, or even real.   So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this installment of "So, About That...," the amazing Jordan Hora returns from Summer Break to delve into a realm where, why dating feels more like content than connection, how "talking stages" get soft-launched and breakups get hard-filtered, modern dating feels less like intimacy and more like Instagram strategy. In this episode, she’s unpacking why connection keeps getting lost in the scroll how algorithm-approved advice, aesthetic expectations, and emotional thirst traps have turned dating into digital theater.  So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That.... becoming”. Jordan explores the idea that many of us articulate. We say ‘do the work,’ but only if it’s pretty. We say ‘show your journey,’ but not the days you’re curled up in the dark. We want people to rise but silently, stylishly, and without too much mess. Let’s talk about the contradictions we place on transformation. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora delves into the discussion of failure. Not every project that fails should be forgotten. Many of the most remarkable creative pieces initially bombed before gaining appreciation. Today, we honor the outcasts, the misinterpreted, and the brilliant works that didn't resonate at first. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora delves into the ways your ‘For You’ page can often be both noisy and misguided. From fixation on 'no contact' to labeling relationships as 'just a trauma bond,' social media has transformed every individual into an amateur life coach. Today, we are highlighting harmful perspectives, untrained advisors, and the importance of honoring your inner voice over regurgitated tweets. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora explores the concept of femininity. At some point, femininity evolved into both a societal expectation and a constraint. But who has the authority to determine what femininity should represent? What is the outcome for those who don’t conform—who are perceived as too loud, too dark-skinned, too strong, too soft, or simply 'not enough'? Today’s discussion focuses on femininity—the power it embodies, its political implications, and how Black women in particular are confronting and redefining the restrictive frameworks surrounding it. Femininity does not adhere to a single shape, color palette, or level of expression. Let's reclaim it from confinement and allow it to flourish according to our own definitions. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora delves into the phenomenon of fandom culture. She provides an overview of significant fandoms such as Marvel, Harry Potter, BeyHive, Hillman College, and anime. Additionally, she examines the concept of “fandom” and its impact on contemporary society, tracing the journey of fandoms from small-scale communities to influential global entities. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE⁠ and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     ⁠@soaboutthatpod  ⁠     ⁠@JordanHora ⁠    ⁠ Threads: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠ Facebook: Jordan Hora⁠    ⁠@thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora explores the cultural trend of nostalgia and its widespread presence in media, fashion, and politics. She also considers whether our yearning for the past is beneficial or if it impedes societal advancement, as well as how we can find a way to honor our history while welcoming the future. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”  WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials     @soaboutthatpod   @JordanHora  Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora delves into a period marked by social justice movements, the onset of America's democratic decline, economic challenges, and a sense of digital disconnection. Millennials, Gen Xers, and Gen Z are reestablishing the importance of community. From mutual aid systems to women empowering one another and Black-owned business collectives, this fresh wave of activism is founded on mutual support. This episode examines the significance of fostering community ties, how these practices are transforming in our digital era, and offers insights for listeners on how to take initiative within their own networks. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”  WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora  Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Season 2 of So, About That… with host, Jordan Hora—the podcast that engages you in a dialogue rather than simply speaking at you. If you're searching for a show that will entertain you, provoke thought, challenge your existing beliefs, and highlight the significance of community, then… Congratulations. You’ve tapped into the right place! In this season, we’re diving deep—exploring fandom culture, nostalgia, setbacks, digital spirituality, activism, and how we all navigate life's complexities in real time. But this is more than just another podcast. This is a shared space. A conversation hub. A valuable moment in time—and we're creating it together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices