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In a special bonus episode host, Sarah Treleaven and legal analyst Beth Karas discuss the latest developments in the Lori Vallow case and the recent determination that Lori is now component to stand trial.  Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sarah sits down with Adam and Zac Cox, Lori and Alex’s brother and nephew. They tell us about the Lori and Alex they knew, and why the two siblings were so drawn to the end times ideas that may have led to murder. Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Alexis Green - Associate Producer Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While the media has remained fixated on Chad and Lori’s crazy zombie beliefs, prosecutors have been quietly building a different case—one that revolves around more earthly than spiritual concerns. Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Pacinthe Mattar- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Alexis Green - Associate Producer Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is it possible that Lori was brainwashed by Chad? We talk to two cult experts who explain undue influence—and why we’re more susceptible than we think. Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Pacinthe Mattar- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As Lori and Chad are charged with murder, prosecutors share their theory that they had help from a third person: Lori’s big brother, Alex Cox. Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Pacinthe Mattar- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chad became a small-time doomsday prophet in his rural Idaho town. When he and Lori meet at a prepper conference, the stage is set for an end times romance. Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Pacinthe Mattar- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Emily Morantz- Associate Producer  Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Lori Vallow’s kids go missing, she travels to Hawaii for a honeymoon with her new husband, Chad Daybell. The two questions on everyone’s mind: Where are the kids, and just who is Lori Vallow? Credits: Josh Bloch- For USG Audio Jessica Grimshaw- For USG Audio Jennifer Sears- For USG Audio Tara Frelund- For USG Audio Sarah Treleaven- Host, Producer Stuart Coxe- Executive Producer Kathleen Goldhar- Executive Producer Katrina Onstad- Executive Producer Beth Karas- Producer Pacinthe Mattar- Producer Dania Ali- Associate Producer Emily Morantz- Associate Producer  Mitchell Stuart- Mix and Sound Design Phillip Wilson- Mix and Sound Design Voice Coaching - Athena Karkanis AJ Hanneld- Key Art Design  BoomBox Sound- Theme song composition This is an Antica Productions podcast in collaboration with USG Audio  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

How did the perfect suburban mom get wrapped up with doomsday preppers and prophets? For months, the media has been chasing the story of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, covering the strange beliefs they shared and the disappearance of her two kids. Madness of Two digs deep into the why: Why did five people end up dead? Host Sarah Treleaven explores religious fanaticism, brainwashing, greed, and the reality that even the most ordinary people can come to believe extreme ideas. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.