In this episode of School of Self Worth, I talk with Cloe Zeng, Chief Growth Officer at the Gottman Institute and former senior leader at Microsoft.
If you're the reliable one, the one who gets it done, and you still find out about high-impact decisions that affect you after they're made, this conversation is for you.
Cloe was raised to believe her work would speak for itself, and what she did after she discovered it didn’t. She talks about how she learned to advocate for herself and the detailed steps that actually helped her rise as a leader.
We also talk about:
Turning down a fast-track promotion. She did it for her teenagers' stability, and still got promoted.Asking for help. Most of us never saw our parents do it. Cloe explains how to build a personal board of directors.The real barrier. When she suggested a colleague for a senior role, the colleague said she didn't see anyone who looked like her at that level. She applied and was the top candidate.Presence. Her daughter asked, "Mom, can I talk to you for a second?" Cloe closed the laptop and they went to watch the sunset. That's what the Gottman Institute calls a bid for connection.In the conversation with Cloe, learn about why you don't have to choose between ambition and family, and why you become a better leader when you don’t.
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THE TOP LEARNINGS IN THIS EPISODE:
Balancing Ambition and Family Is Possible [10:11] Career Growth Is a Lifelong Journey, Not a Single Track [13:16] The Power of Presence: Responding to Bids for Connection [15:49] Self-Advocacy and Intentional Career Conversations [25:11] The Importance of Imagination and Representation in Leadership [33:01] Building Emotional Bank Accounts in All Relationships [41:41]Guest Bio:
Cloe Zeng is the Chief Growth Officer at The Gottman Institute, where she works to bring research-based relationship and well-being tools to more people and organizations around the world. Before joining Gottman, she spent 10 years at Microsoft in global business and leadership roles and was recently recognized as an OPULIS #empowHER50 honoree, celebrating 50 women connected to Microsoft’s 50-year history.
She has also been deeply involved in education and community service and is passionate about supporting women, families, and the next generation. As a mother of two, Cloe brings a deeply personal perspective to the intersection of leadership, motherhood, cultural identity and relationships. She believes that how we lead others is deeply connected to how we understand and value ourselves.
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