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In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time. The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show featuring sheep herded by a giant zeppelin at New York’s Armory. Find out more about Zack Winokur here, or follow him @winokurz Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today. Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_robert_couturier Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

In Episode 2, Adam and Laura speak with the inimitable Pierre Marie. A self-described ornamentalist, he works at the crossroads of artist, designer, and decorator and is a true world-builder. After starting his career designing scarves for the great house of Hermès, he now collaborates with exceptional artisans across ancestral practices to create new objects and textiles. His work spans rugs, tapestries, stained glass, mosaics, and more. In this episode, Pierre Marie shares his singular vision, reflects on the importance of craftsmanship and the role of nostalgia in contemporary creation, and even speaks about the ever-inspiring power of Disney. Find out more about Pierre Marie Studio here, or follow him on Instagram at @pierremariepm  Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

In Episode 1, Adam and Laura visit legendary photographer Dominique Nabokov at her New York flat. Dominique’s first interior photography series was commissioned by The New Yorker in 1995, when the magazine asked her to capture “portraits” of notable New Yorkers by photographing their living rooms, but free of their residents. The result, later dubbed “interior photography portraiture,” featured the homes of Susan Sontag, Allen Ginsberg, Oscar de la Renta, Diane von Furstenberg, Joan Didion, and many others. Dominique’s aesthetic has since influenced a generation of photographers. In this episode, she speaks about her extraordinary life, the impact of this original New Yorker series on her career, and the importance of documenting interiors. Get a copy of Dominique's books on Living Rooms here. Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

For this teaser episode, Adam and Laura are joined by friend of the pod Astrid Malingreau, who spearheads design gallery Friedman Benda in Paris. The tables are turned as she interviews them to answer one simple question about Handle with Care: why do we need a podcast about interiors and decorative arts? Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_