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In this episode of the podcast, Vanessa and Dené talk about the ways in which we are all being challenged to stay with ourselves through the discomfort of releasing the things we have been holding as certain.  we talk about: why it becomes necessary to be in acceptance of loss for us to show up authentically in relationships  how our culture conditions us to be in a constant space of preoccupation- often in an attempt to defend against the fear of endings  how we are collectively being invited to come into an acceptance of the nature of impermanence  the very human desire to cling to the known when we are about to step into the next phase of our development  ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this week’s episode, Vanessa and Dené talk about the energy that is being felt by so many of us as we move through what many astrologers are calling a ‘turning point’ eclipse season.   we talk about: the immense amount of shadow work we’ve been asked to dive into in the midst of the current eclipse season the dehumanization that starts to come up when we place people on pedestals  how we are being asked to look at where we’ve outsourced our sense of security to other people  how our disappointment in others often reflect where we’ve left expectations unexpressed  ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube!  This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy.  Follow Cheaper Than Therapy Instagram: @cheaperthantherapypodcast TikTok: @cheaperthantherapypod YouTube: @cheaperthantherapypodcast Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett TikTok: @thecodayoda YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631  Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan TikTok: @denelogan See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

..the growth that comes from them is optional. In this week’s episode, Vanessa and Dené  talk about the extent to which 2025 has felt like - to many - one enormous ego death, what that means, and why this is a crucial aspect of our collective healing process.  we talk about: how life is changing pushing us to separate our essence from our adapted survival strategies or what we’ve been calling our personality  why it becomes important to honor other people’s process - even if we experience them as bypassing the ‘truth’ of where we believe they should be  how we can start to view life’s difficult moments and relationships as an invitation to expand through what might actually be an initiatory cycle or ego death  the extent to which we are experiencing an collective ego death as human race  ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along on Instagram and YouTube! Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the first installment of one of our new solo series, Vanessa kicks off with a core theme from her new book The Motherhood Myth: The Lie We Were Sold—the cultural script that says partnership and motherhood should be inherently easy and endlessly fulfilling…and if they aren’t, you must be doing it wrong. Vanessa traces how that story keeps us isolated, ashamed, and over-functioning, and why naming it is the first step to reclaiming a solid sense of Self. We discuss: How a shared season of overstimulation, depletion, and “Who am I anymore?” sparked this book The lie itself—and how it feeds codependency, self-abandonment, and the “performing for belonging” loop Dominator systems 101: patriarchy, capitalism, and why shame is such an effective control mechanism What changes when you build from capital-S Self: less personalization, more ownership, real agency Two journal prompts to begin untangling your inherited myths (about “good mother / partner / woman / person”) An invitation to help name this solo mini-series + what’s coming next (“Ego Explosion”) We would love to hear from you: What is the lie you were sold about partnership, motherhood, womanhood—or being a “good” person? How was shame used to keep you performing that role? Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along on Instagram and YouTube! Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this week’s episode, Vanessa gives Dené a recap of her time spent at a bachelorette party over the weekend. We explore some of the trends - and possible factors impacting - why millennials may have a different relationship with alcohol than older generations. We discuss: -Whether studies suggesting that gen Z is consuming less alcohol than millennials are pointing to an awakening of consciousness or feeling more self-conscious about making mistakes. - If the younger generation are being raised with a lower tolerance for discomfort. - What some of the positive outcomes could potentially be from discomfort that parents may be robbing their children of experiencing.  ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We sat down to explore some of the challenges that come up living in a culture where we are exposed and reacting to so many people lives, perspectives and ultimately ways of negotiating conflict.  We discuss:  -the challenges that we’re facing as a culture that struggles to allow for diversity of thought  -holding ourselves with compassion even as others may be holding us with judgement  -how we honor the unique nature of our Souls blueprint instead of feeling like we are all meant to be the same  -what it looks like to take responsibility for being a conduit to the world I want to see instead of pushing against current circumstances  ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We’re back and so excited to share with you all some of the conversations we’ve been having offline. This week, we explore some of the current conversations we’ve heard coming up around AI, the tie it will play in how we meet one another relationally, and what the larger invitation may be for all of us in this rapidly changing world.   we discuss: the uptick of people replacing a therapeutic relationship with their use of chat GPT  how we might see the rise in technology as being a catalyst for cultivating a more intimate relationship with the human capabilities that cannot be outsourced  what it will look like to balance the reality that AI is here and something we will have to negotiate a personal relationship with, to continuing to prioritize connecting with other humans ..and so much more!  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Cheaper than Therapy is back for season 4!! And we couldn’t be more excited to kick things off with a live recording (and celebration of the launch of Vanessa’s new book, The Motherhood Myth) we did with two of our favorite dads - and friends - Dr. Adi Jaffe and Nicholas Gonzalez. Adi is an addiction & mental health expert, and founder of IGNTD. Nick is an actor, father, and advocate for conscious masculinity. They are also two dads doing the work of taking so much personal responsibility for their growth as men and fathers. We sat down to talk with Adi and Nick about: finding self-compassion and what it looks like to do the conscious work of repairing as a parent how to avoid the trap of parentified dynamics with your partner the often unaddressed desire to feel valued as men and whether or not that equates to ‘needing’ the women in their lives reimagining privilege in a society where we’ve lost track of what it means to support one another in community ..and so much more! Connect with Adi: https://www.adijaffe.com/ (Website) Connect with Nick on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/eltexmex/ Instagram We are so excited to be back! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Connect with Vanessa:     •    Instagram: @vanessasbennett (https://www.instagram.com/vanessasbennett/)     •    Website: vanessabennett.com     •    TikTok: @ (https://www.tiktok.com/@thecodayoda)itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené:     •    Instagram: @dene.logan (https://www.instagram.com/dene.logan/)     •    Website: denelogan.com     •    TikTok: @denelogan (https://www.tiktok.com/@denelogan) Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Our 4th and final “best of” is an episode where we answered a listener question. Ep: 181 Q&A: Reciprocal vs Transactional Relationships This episode is one of the most honest, relatable, and clarifying conversations we’ve had about how codependency quietly shapes our relationships—and how resentment can be a powerful wake-up call. This one is an invitation to zoom out, take radical ownership, and shift from silently simmering to soulfully relating. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11!  Connect with Vanessa:     •    Instagram: @vanessasbennett (https://www.instagram.com/vanessasbennett/)     •    Website: vanessabennett.com     •    TikTok: @ (https://www.tiktok.com/@thecodayoda)itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené:     •    Instagram: @dene.logan (https://www.instagram.com/dene.logan/)     •    Website: denelogan.com     •    TikTok: @denelogan (https://www.tiktok.com/@denelogan) Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes. And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Our next ‘best of’ episode was episode 192: Men’s “Clarity” After Sex. This conversation cracked open a raw, honest, and often unspoken exploration of modern relationships, intimacy, and how patriarchal conditioning impacts us all—especially around sex. If you've ever wondered why sex sometimes feels more disconnecting than connecting, or you're longing for a deeper conversation about emotional safety, sexual shame, and sacred union—this one will stay with you. Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come.  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ep 188: BEST-OF: What Does My Inner Child Need? Our 2nd “best of” is one of our live coaching episodes.  We dive into: what codependency and anxious attachment often look in real life—and why they’re so hard to untangle a roadmap for staying with discomfort instead of outsourcing soothing—without shame. Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come.  Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. This conversation with Danny Morel was one of our absolute favorites.  We sat down with Danny to talk about -reframing love, attachment, partnership and forgiveness. This episode was a profound exploration of what will be required to heal collective wounds between men and women. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11!  Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett Website: vanessabennett.com TikTok: @itsvanessabennett Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this heartfelt final episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we reflect on the last four years, all of our challenges and personal growth, and the significance of our friendship while preparing to close this chapter. While it’s farewell to the podcast for now, it’s not farewell to us. Join our online community to stay in touch with multiple live weekly process groups and workshops, and stay in touch with us for upcoming retreats.  What You’ll Gain from this Episode: ✨How both of our perspectives on so many things have evolved since the podcast’s early days, from the challenges of motherhood to deepening our clinical skills, and how much we’ve used the podcast for processing life experiences ✨ An emphasis on how our shared struggles have shaped our friendship and influenced our professional work, and how candidly the topic of motherhood has been approached on Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast since day one ✨Gratitude for our friendship and the unique dynamic we’ve built between us, and how supporting each other’s growth has been vital to both the podcast’s success and our personal journeys ✨As we prepare to end the podcast, we do so with gratitude and reflect on the importance of honoring life’s cycles, embracing endings as a necessary part of growth 🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than Therapy Our podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more here Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett TikTok: @thecodayoda Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In our second to last episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we sit down with Reverend Michael Beckwith, founder of the Agape Spiritual Center, the Take Back Your Mind podcast, and bestselling author of  “Life Visioning™,” “The Answer is You,” and “Spiritual Liberation.” Reverend Michael shares journey from being a psychobiology major to becoming a spiritual leader and the profound insights he’s gained along the way, particularly about the rise of the feminine energy and spiritual awakening.  What You’ll Gain from this Episode: ✨The global shift toward feminine energy and collective spiritual awakening, and why Reverend Michael believes that this movement is essential for healing the planet and fostering deeper unity among people ✨ Reverend Michael’s personal spiritual experiences, including profound mystical events that changed his perception of reality, and how these moments helped him embrace his spiritual gifts and lead others on their own awakening journeys ✨The need for living with intention, rather than reacting to circumstances, and how intention acts as a guiding force, helping individuals align with their spiritual purpose in order to navigate life more authentically and meaningfully 🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than Therapy Connect with Reverend Michael Beckwith: Website Instagram Podcast Our podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more here Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett TikTok: @thecodayoda Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ep 234: Friendships & Goodbyes In this emotional and reflective episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we discuss the cycles of relationships, touching on our personal friendship dynamics and the upcoming conclusion of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast after an incredible 4 years.  What You’ll Gain from this Episode: ✨ An emphasis on the importance of prioritizing friendships over romantic relationships, which often get placed on a societal pedestal, and how our friendship has thrived because of our commitment to this mindset ✨The cyclical nature of relationships, using the metaphor of a spiral to illustrate how old wounds and dynamics resurface, but with each turn of the spiral, they move further from the center, showing growth and healing ✨Exploring the concept of respecting where each person is in their development and capacity to engage in relationships, and how recognizing that capacity in one another helps prevent the ego from taking a “one-up” position, allowing for empathy and understanding ✨The conclusion of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast after 4 years together, our immense gratitude for this journey, our guests, and you - the amazing community we’ve built together 🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than Therapy Our podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more here Interested in joining Vanessa’s substack? Email [email protected] for more information Connect with Vanessa: Instagram: @vanessasbennett TikTok: @thecodayoda Connect with Dené: Instagram: @dene.logan Website: denelogan.com TikTok: @denelogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.