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World Cup winner, Bayern legend and now MLS star Thomas Müller pulls up to The Late Run, and Ocho, who admits he went 14 years without a trophy, finally gets to live vicariously through someone who's won it all. Thomas takes us back to the countryside club where his cousins handed him a ball, why always being the youngest forced him to get creative, and the day Louis van Gaal looked down the bench and said, "you, you there - let's try this guy."Then it gets real: the 2015 Man United offer worth a reported €100M, why he was ready to follow his mentor — and why he was glad Bayern said no ("okay, you're our guy"). Ocho matches it with the two first-round picks Washington offered for him. Thomas explains why you can doubt your performances but never your base, what Jürgen Klopp has to fix in a Germany side he says has lost its mentality, and what it felt like to walk into the locker room 5-0 up on Brazil in a World Cup semi-final — before spending the last 15 minutes running away from David Luiz. And when Ocho asks the GOAT question, Thomas admits he was with Cristiano for ten years… until he looked at the bigger picture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

USMNT head coach Mauricio Pochettino pulls up to The Late Run. The former Argentina international joins Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Raheemovic to break down why he committed to the U.S. through 2030, what American soccer needs to change to compete with the world's best, and why he believes young players like Cavan Sullivan, Julian Hall and Neil Pierre are ready for the international stage. Pochettino also looks back on the controversial penalty he gave away against England at the 2002 World Cup, explains why he prefers football without VAR, and opens up about managing some of the biggest personalities in the game, including Lionel Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappé. Plus: Ocho weighs in on Neymar's legacy, Poch explains why "one plus one plus one" doesn't always equal three in football, and of course, the GOAT debate... his answer is Messi. CHAPTERS:0:00 — Cold Open0:52 — Welcome Mauricio Pochettino2:04 — Why Poch Is Staying With the USMNT Through 20305:36 — What Is American Soccer Missing?8:48 — The Biggest Challenge With the U.S. Soccer System10:42 — Real Talk: Life After Playing15:12 — Preparing Athletes for Life After Sports16:39 — The 2002 World Cup Penalty vs. England18:45 — Poch Wants Football Without VAR21:02 — Neymar's Legacy25:30 — ChatGPT Work26:16 — 85 Always Open: Managing Messi, Neymar & Mbappé28:45 — The Next Generation of USMNT Stars30:35 — Why Some Young Stars Never Reach Their Potential32:59 — The GOAT Question34:18 — What's Next for Pochettino?36:12 — Outro Start using ChatGPT Work for free at http://chatgpt.com/work Use Code HATRICK30 for 30% off your next door dash order of $25 or more anytime an MLS player scores a hat trick this season! *Terms and Conditions do apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The future of American soccer pulls up to The Late Run. Julian Hall, the New York Red Bulls striker who signed his first pro contract at 15 and never set foot in a high school joins Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Raheemovic in front of a live crowd (with his mom in the building). He talks about recording two assists against Messi and Inter Miami, the debut at 15 where he felt like he was "about to pass out," and the decision everyone's waiting on: Poland or USA?Plus: Ocho tells the story of the trade the Bengals refused (two first-round picks on the table), and Julian breaks down why he models his game on Robert Lewandowski, and of course the GOAT debate... he picks Messi. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Comedian Kam Patterson pulls up on The Late Run live and finally gets in a room with the man he's supposedly beefing with. Raheem asks what actually happened with Ocho on Club Shay Shay, Kam also explains why Kevin Hart is the blueprint for his whole career and why he stayed quiet on set to soak up game, what it felt like getting thrown on the Weekend Update desk his first week at SNL, and why he'd rather do a live sketch than take a World Cup penalty with a whole country on his back Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 1:23 - Kam Quit Soccer After Two Days 3:09 - The Big3 Beef With Ocho 6:37 - Should Kam Do World Cup Commentary? 8:38 - Which NFL Skills Translate to Football? 13:55 - SNL vs the Super Bowl 16:30 Kevin Hart Is the Blueprint 18:55 Messi or Ronaldo Start using ChatGPT Work for free at http://chatgpt.com/work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ocho finally sits down with his favorite player and COUSIN (at least according to the paperwork he brought) - Son Heung-Min. Sonny opens up about the call he almost ignored, “No way going to the MLS", and the years of LAFC persistence that changed his mind. He shares why the packed American stadiums still surprise him every single week. Then Son takes us back to leaving Korea for Germany at 16 years old, where he learned the language by watching SpongeBob, and the discipline that journey built in him.Son goes deep into the Spurs years: the best team he ever played on, the Amsterdam Miracle night Lucas Moura scored three goals, what the night before a Champions League final actually feels like, and Harry Kane's real secret - "it's not gifted." He remembers telling a 19-year-old Dele Alli he'd end up at Real Madrid or Barcelona, and how hard it was to watch his "little brother" go downhill. And when Ocho asks the GOAT question, Sonny gives the most honest answer the show has ever heard: his idol is Ronaldo… but Messi? "I can't disagree." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Comedian Godfrey pulls up on The Late Run and gives Raheem and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson the most honest take American soccer has heard: he never wants the USA to win a World Cup, and he's got reasons. He breaks down how Nigeria's government wasted a generation of talent while Pablo Escobar was out here funding Colombian soccer, crowns Pele over everybody, does a Kevin Garnett impression that needs to be studied, and finally gives Ocho his flowers for actually knowing ball. Plus the Karl-Anthony Towns story where Godfrey takes credit for a championship, and why soccer will never grow in America without a personality leading it. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 0:38 - Godfrey’s Nigerian Soccer Roots + America’s “World Champions” 6:57 - Pelé Is the GOAT 7:55 - Nigeria’s Soccer FAILURE + America’s Pay-to-Play Problem 14:34 - Why Godfrey NEVER Wants USA to Win 26:27 - How Football Started Godfrey’s Comedy Career 31:51 - Vinícius, Ronaldo & the GOAT Debate 36:10 - Why American Soccer Needs a Transcendent Star 41:14 - Ocho Explains Soccer Through the NBA Start using ChatGPT Work for free at http://chatgpt.com/work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christian "Bobo" Vieri - once the most expensive footballer on earth - pulls up to The Late Run and takes us inside the golden era of Serie A: training next to R9 and laughing out loud ("you can't stop him"), and the day he saw steel coming out of the Phenomenon's knee. He breaks down his world-record €49M transfer (about €335M in today's money), why all that money moved to the Premier League, and the four stadiums on earth where playing feels different - starting with 85,000 at San Siro: "that's where you sh*t your pants."Then it gets honest: winning the top-scorer crown while going out every single night, the 40-goal season he believes he threw away, the 2006 knee injury that cost him a World Cup - and the wife who tells him to "go to the hospital" when she catches him reliving goals he missed 25 years ago. Ocho gets striker advice for Sunday League ("the green pitch never lies"), compares his New England what-if to Vieri's, and asks the GOAT question one more time. For one beautiful second, he finally has an ally… and then Vieri takes it back. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arsenal legend Sol Campbell pulls up to The Late Run and starts swinging: modern football is "too easy," the tough tackles are gone, and no striker on earth (not even prime R9) could ever say he had Sol's number. He takes us inside the Invincibles: training sessions that were "like matches," Pirès scoring 40-yarders with his instep, Henry and Bergkamp as a double act you had to out-think, and why that unbeaten record still stands 20+ years later.Then it gets personal: the REAL hate between Keane's United and Vieira's Arsenal, and the retired United players who still hold the grudge. He shares how deep club tribalism runs in England compared to America, the day Thierry Henry tried to recruit Sol to MLS, and how Ferguson beat Wenger to a young Cristiano Ronaldo. Plus, Ocho asks the GOAT question and gets his heart broken in real time. Then Sol breaks down what Tuchel got wrong in England's collapse, and he closes with the three times he made history for the culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He was named after Drogba, raised on a soccer ball, and now the phone won't stop ringing. US soccer's brightest prospect Zavier Gozo pulls up to The Late Run to talk Champions League dreams, the World Cup call-up he believes he deserved, and the credit-card sacrifices his mom made to get him through America's pay-to-play system.Plus: Ocho relives the day he trained with Real Madrid in his NFL prime and got "embarrassed" in a 30-minute Rondo, and breaks down why young U.S. players need minutes before 2030. It ends with Zavier's Ronaldo take that makes Ocho almost jump out his chair! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emmy-winning sports "talker" Katie Nolan pulls up to The Late Run and answers the GOAT question before Ocho can even finish asking it. She explains why she'll "defend soccer to the death," why being flippant about the world's most popular game is a huge negative to you as a person, and how meeting the US Women's National Team in 2015 turned her into a believer.Then it goes deeper: the $35-vs-$5,000 problem locking American kids out of soccer and the 50 million people who tuned into USA–Belgium confirming exactly why casual American fans don't watch. Plus, why it's unfair that Carli Lloyd catches more heat than every other legend when critiquing USMNT, and the infamous German fan who kissed Katie live on TV at the 2014 World Cup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Paul pulls up to The Late Run Show with Chad Ochocinco and Raheem Taylor-Parkes, and the 12-time All-Star came with stories nobody else can tell: the trade to the Lakers that went through and got killed within hours, the league rules that blocked him from becoming a part-owner of LAFC, and the day Wembanyama pointed at the Paris apartment where he lived alone at 15.CP3 gets into why retirement routines are harder than playing, what La Masia does that AAU can't, why super teams collapse in the locker room before they collapse on the court, his answer to KD's claim that small guards are done, the pay-to-play problem keeping soccer out of the hood, and how his TST tournament got Nani a pro contract and sent a million-dollar goal scorer to Angel City. Plus the GOAT question, and Ocho finally gets some company on his answer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two days before the biggest World Cup Final of our lifetime, Trevor Noah pulls up to The Late Run. He tells the story behind the photo of Messi bathing baby Lamine Yamal nearly two decades before they meet in a World Cup Final, explains why the whole world is rooting for Spain on Sunday, and calls out England for playing scared. Then it goes deeper: street football under apartheid, why your country's style of play tells you everything about where you grew up, the 2010 vuvuzelas (and the player who blamed them), and why he still stands by "Africa won the World Cup." Plus, Ocho and Trevor debate the USMNT flameout, whether the USA would beat Belgium in a best of 7, and why Alexi Lalas is actually good for American soccer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Late Run goes LIVE for the first time ever, from House of Goal NYC in the middle of the World Cup, and Gronk pulls up a changed man. The guy who never watched a single soccer game in his life now has full World Cup fever: naming his comp (Erling Haaland, who else), breaking down how Serie A actually works, and arguing that America's best athletes playing football is exactly why the USMNT can't crack the world's top eight. Ocho and Raheem get Gronk's review of his first live World Cup match, somehow the most boring game of the tournament, his new soccer podcast with Jameis Winston, an Anthony Davis-in-goal hypothetical that got the whole crowd going, and the one GOAT answer guaranteed to make Ocho grab the mic. CHAPTERS: 00:00 — Intro 01:07 — What the World Cup Taught Gronk 02:45 — Gronk's Comp: Erling Haaland 04:18 — What World Cup Games Are Really Like 07:52 — Ocho's DraftKings Props 16:20 — Gronk's Soccer Podcast & Learning Italian Football 19:20 — Is Gronk's Fandom Real? 23:27 — Why the USMNT Isn't Top 8 (Pay-to-Play) 26:52 — Anthony Davis in Goal 27:43 — Gronk Picks His GOAT SUPPORT THE SHOW: Grab your FREE House of Goal tickets here and celebrate the World Cup with us at New York’s largest soccer culture festival: http://www.goal.com/houseofgoal Start using Codex for free at http://chatgpt.com/codex New DraftKings customers, bet $5 and get $100 in bonus bets instantly. The Crown Is Yours! Sign up using http://dkng.co/thelaterun or through my promo code THELATERUN. #dkpartner GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET, 800-327-5050/visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), mdgamblinghelp.org (MD), 800-981-0023 (PR). Wagering offered by DK Sportsbook: 21+. Present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/PR/WY). Void in ONT. On behalf of Boothill Casino (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. Event Trading offered by DraftKings Predictions, CFTC-registered: 18+. Trading involves risk of loss. Market availability varies. Predictions offer void in NY. General: 1 per new DraftKings customer. $5+ deposit req. Trade $5, get $200 Prediction Dollars (1-year expiry) issued as $50 increments every 7 days via click-to-claim for 21 days; or bet $5, get $200 Bonus Bets instantly (7-day expiry and stake removed from payout). 7 days = 168hrs. Rewards are non-withdrawable. Terms: dkng.co/offer. Ends 6/28/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gregg Berhalter, a two-time World Cup player, former USMNT head coach, and current Chicago Fire manager, joins Ocho and Raheemovic on The Late Run. Gregg opens up on his tenure coaching the USMNT in Qatar, how failure can actually help American soccer, and the emotional reality of watching his own son play in the World Cup. He drops the line that sets the tone: “On any given day, we can beat any given team,” but states clearly that America isn’t a heavyweight in world soccer yet.Plus: coaching Christian Pulisic and Weston McKennie through their growing pains, the insanity of Swedish fans fist-fighting in the stands at Hammarby, and why a good coach never blames his players. Plus the crew talk about the infrastructure failings that hurt Youth Soccer development in the U.S., how Mbappé got benched and watching the second half with his mom, the economics pushing MLS to play 16-year-olds, and his GOAT verdict: Messi over Ronaldo, with Maradona in the conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week's episode of The Late Run, Landon Donovan—the most decorated American men's soccer player of all time—joins Ocho and Raheem. From the jump it's clear how different his road was from Chad's. While Ocho was a drafted NFL star with people lining up at his door, a 19-year-old Landon was being sent to a park to entertain 11 kids just to sell 30 tickets. Landon gets into the culture shock of moving to Bayer Leverkusen alone at 16, the 2012 sabbatical that nearly ended his career and why he became one of soccer's first mental-health voices, the Jürgen Klinsmann decision that cost him the 2014 World Cup, why he refuses to pick between Messi and Ronaldo after facing both in their prime, how David Beckham's gamble saved MLS, and the $50K pay-to-play problem he says is quietly killing American soccer. Plus the grit he thinks the current generation is missing—and why the World Cup at home could change everything. CHAPTERS: 00:00 — Intro 01:23 — Where it started + how US soccer fandom exploded 05:19 — The promo grind: 11 kids to sell 30 tickets 08:23 — Leverkusen at 16 + the Canada question 24:30 — The 2012 sabbatical & mental health 28:57 — The Klinsmann snub + Ocho's Patriot Way 35:08 — Did Beckham save MLS? 37:04 — Facing prime Messi & Ronaldo 41:57 — The $50K problem killing US soccer 49:07 — The grit that's missing today SUPPORT THE SHOW: Grab your FREE House of Goal tickets here and celebrate the World Cup with us at New York’s largest soccer culture festival: http://www.goal.com/houseofgoal Start using Codex for free at http://chatgpt.com/codex New DraftKings customers, bet $5 and get $100 in bonus bets instantly. The Crown Is Yours! Sign up using http://dkng.co/thelaterun or through my promo code THELATERUN. #dkpartner GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET, 800-327-5050/visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), mdgamblinghelp.org (MD), 800-981-0023 (PR). Wagering offered by DK Sportsbook: 21+. Present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/PR/WY). Void in ONT. On behalf of Boothill Casino (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. Event Trading offered by DraftKings Predictions, CFTC-registered: 18+. Trading involves risk of loss. Market availability varies. Predictions offer void in NY. General: 1 per new DraftKings customer. $5+ deposit req. Trade $5, get $200 Prediction Dollars (1-year expiry) issued as $50 increments every 7 days via click-to-claim for 21 days; or bet $5, get $200 Bonus Bets instantly (7-day expiry and stake removed from payout). 7 days = 168hrs. Rewards are non-withdrawable. Terms: dkng.co/offer. Ends 6/28/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices