The Retirement and IRA Show

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2013/05/31
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2026/04/22
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What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!

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Retirement Spending Plans: EDU #2616
2026/04/22
Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss retirement spending plans through the lens of a New York Times article titled “You Saved and Saved for Retirement. Now You Need a Plan to Cash Out,” reviewing its key arguments about decumulation and where we agree, question, or hold no opinion. We cover why the Minimum Dignity Floor rarely fails in projections, why the 4% rule may be an outdated framework for structuring retirement withdrawals, how individual inflation rates for specific expense categories can produce more accurate projections than a single blended rate, and why underspending on fun during the go-go years may pose a greater risk than outliving assets for many listeners. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I dig into a New York Times article — “You Saved and Saved for Retirement. Now You Need a Plan to Cash Out” — and use it as a jumping-off point to talk about what spending in retirement actually looks like in practice versus what the industry has been selling people for decades. Here’s what struck me most: the 4% rule was created in 1994 with rudimentary spreadsheets, and the recommended safe withdrawal rate swings from 2.8 to 4.7 depending on who you ask and what year it is. That’s supposed to be your anchor? Are you watching TVs that look like the ones from 30 years ago? Talking on the same phones? My beeper evolved into a smartphone with more computing power than the Apollo mission, and yet most of the industry is still essentially creating retirement spending plans with a beeper. What the Fun Number framework helps clarify is that you don’t need a universal withdrawal percentage. You need to isolate your actual expenses, inflate each one at the rate that reflects how that spending actually grows — not some blended average — and then see clearly what’s left for fun. The article also makes the point that fearful retirees may scrimp during their go-go years when they could afford to spend — and that’s something my dad reinforced in his own way. He’d watch people in his retirement community who had money but couldn’t bring themselves to spend it on fun, and he called them Debbie Downers. For many people listening to this podcast, that’s the real risk — not outliving your assets but failing to spend on fun while you still can. The post Retirement Spending Plans: EDU #2616 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Social Security, ERISA, Trusts: Q&A #2616
2026/04/18
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security benefits for a family with a disabled adult child, survivor benefits, ERISA vs. non-ERISA 403(b) protections, a listener PSA on Monte Carlo simulations, special needs trusts, and how a revocable living trust handles a primary home transfer. (5:00) A listener asks whether her husband’s early Social Security filing while still working would suspend her child-in-care benefits, and whether his benefit would be recalculated to his Full Retirement Age amount once the earnings limit no longer applies. (20:20) George wonders whether survivor benefits for his wife would be based on his age-70 amount or her Full Retirement Age amount. (25:15) Jim and Chris take a question about the differences between ERISA and non-ERISA 403(b) protections, and whether state IRA protections offer comparable coverage. (39:45) The guys share a listener PSA pointing them to a recent Retirement Answer Man episode on Monte Carlo simulations. (44:00) Georgette enquires which assets belong in a special needs trust and how to structure it tax-efficiently. (54:45) A listener asks how a primary home transfers to children through a revocable living trust and what the selling process looks like. The post Social Security, ERISA, Trusts: Q&A #2616 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Tax Rules and Mistakes: EDU #2615
2026/04/15
Chris’s Summary Jim and I are joined by Jake as we discuss tax rules and mistakes through two tax-focused PSAs before moving into listener emails. Jake covers a denied non-cash charitable deduction due to an incomplete Form 8283 and missing contemporaneous documentation, then walks through how estimated tax payments and safe harbor rules are calculated from prior-year tax liability. We then address listener emails on establishing home basis after a spouse’s death, how the senior deduction is reduced for married couples, and comparing IRA versus Roth withdrawal strategies. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are joined by Jake as we spend some time on two tax-focused PSAs from Jake before getting into listener emails. Jake walks through a tax court case where a non-cash charitable donation was denied because Form 8283 wasn’t completed correctly and the required documentation wasn’t done at the time—even though the donation itself was valid. This highlights how strict tax rules and mistakes around them can cost you. He also breaks down estimated tax payments—those quarterly amounts that show up on your return after you’ve already paid what you owed—and how they’re calculated off the prior year to get you into the safe harbor. We then get into a situation involving a home purchased in the early 1970s, no improvements over the years, a spouse passing in a community property state, and now the question of what the basis actually is and how to determine it years later without anything documented at the time, which is more common than you’d think. There’s also a question on the senior deduction where the reduction ends up applying to each spouse, which changes the expected result. Finally, we look at two different withdrawal approaches using traditional IRA and Roth accounts over the next few years, and how those choices shift balances and taxes depending on how the income is sourced and what you’re actually trying to accomplish with it. The post Tax Rules and Mistakes: EDU #2615 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Social Security, Inheritance Strategy, SEP IRA Conversions: Q&A#2615
2026/04/11
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security claiming strategies, financial education electives for a college student, a listener PSA on podcast word counts, inheritance planning, and SEP IRA conversions. (11:15) A listener planning to delay Social Security to 70 asks whether proposed benefit caps should change that strategy. He also asks Chris for financial education course recommendations for his son at CSU. (35:45) The guys address a question from someone who discovered SSA shows zero earnings on their work record for a year they actually worked, following an overpayment dispute, and whether submitting a W-2 can correct the record and trigger retroactive back pay. (43:45) Jim and Chris share a PSA on podcast word counts, with a speaker-by-speaker breakdown to crown the King and Prince of Word Count. (49:30) A listener wants to create four separate Roth IRA accounts, each with one of their four adult children named as beneficiary, with the idea that any lifetime gifts to that child come out of their future inherited share. They ask whether this approach is more complicated than it needs to be. (1:09:30) George asks whether the money his son placed in a traditional SEP IRA can be converted to Roth, and how the IRS would treat it. The post Social Security, Inheritance Strategy, SEP IRA Conversions: Q&A#2615 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Retirement Lessons Learned: EDU #2614
2026/04/08
Chris’s Summary Jim and I share retirement lessons learned from a listener’s account of his mother. Her husband’s survivor pension elections, combined with Social Security, left her a unicorn — secure income covering all expenses — yet she died regretting trips never taken despite a $9 million portfolio. The episode also covers why joint account ownership with adult children can create legal exposure, and the importance of funding a living trust while you are still healthy. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I walk through three retirement lessons learned from a listener whose mother passed at nearly 100 years old — what she did right, what she regretted, and what almost worked but she ran out of time. Lesson 1: Her husband elected survivor options on his pensions, and combined with Social Security, she had a steady stream of lifetime income long after he was gone. He thought ahead and protected her. Lesson 2: That income, combined with a modest lifestyle, allowed her to amass millions and become what we call a unicorn — guaranteed income that covered every expense, discretionary and otherwise. But she died with regrets, not because she ran out of money but because she could never bring herself to spend it. Her son urged her repeatedly to spend more on fun, but she was a child of the Depression, and that created a mindset that no amount of counseling could change until it was too late. Her husband, who died at 66 was “the other guy” — he probably expected to live at least into his 80s — so did not get to enjoy the money either. These are exactly the kinds of situations the Fun Number was built for. Lesson 3: She did do a great deal right with her estate — POA designations in place and proper beneficiary designations so no assets were subject to probate. She even had a living trust in the works – but she ran out of time to fund it, and that distinction — between having a living trust and actually funding it — is a surprisingly common mistake people make when they set one up. The post Retirement Lessons Learned: EDU #2614 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Social Security, 5-year Rule, Conduit Trusts, Inherited IRAs: Q&A #2614
2026/04/04
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security claiming strategies, IRMAA income adjustments, a listener PSA on the Roth five-year rule, conduit trusts for minor IRA beneficiaries and I-Bond tax reporting, and an inherited IRA passing through a trust. (10:30) George asks about the Social Security “January Rule” and whether claiming in December 2027 or January 2028 would capture the most delayed retirement credits after reaching full retirement age in May 2027. (21:00) A listener who retired early and has been performing Roth conversions asks whether he can also file an SSA-44 based on his wife’s upcoming reduction in work income, even though his conversions have been elevating their household MAGI. (31:00) The guys review a listener PSA clarifying that the fifth year of the Roth five-year rule must be completed entirely—not merely begun—before the holding period is satisfied. (39:45) Jim and Chris take a two-part question on how conduit trusts handle IRA distributions inherited by minor children, and whether the annual interest-reporting election used for EE bonds can also apply to I-Bonds. (1:06:00) A listener whose father-in-law named a trust as the IRA beneficiary — rather than the daughters directly — is getting conflicting advice on whether the IRA funds must be taken immediately or if they can spread the distributions — and the taxes — over five years. The post Social Security, 5-year Rule, Conduit Trusts, Inherited IRAs: Q&A #2614 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Buffered ETF Mechanics: EDU #2613
2026/04/01
If you would like to skip over the guys’ banter this week about Jim’s experience going to a Cincinnati Reds game, you can go to (7:00). Chris’s Summary Jim and I are joined by Jacob as we revisit buffered ETF mechanics in light of recent market volatility and explain why 100% and 20% buffers can still show interim losses. We also cover how renewals work, why resets are not taxable events in brokerage accounts, where these products may fit in retirement positioning, and a listener email comparing them with bonds and fixed indexed annuities. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are joined by Jacob as we go back into buffered ETF mechanics during a stretch where people are actually seeing movement in these products and questioning what they own. When markets pull back, even modestly, the expectation is that protection means no decline at all. Jacob walks through why that is not how these function in real time, and why a 100% buffered ETF can still show a small loss while a 20% buffered ETF can show more, even when the market decline remains within the stated buffer range. The distinction comes down to how these are priced day to day versus how the protection applies over the defined outcome period. We also clarify how renewals work, what happens when values reset higher or lower, and how that process functions within a brokerage account. The discussion also covers how these may fit within portfolio positioning depending on how the dollars are being used. Jacob outlines how full principal protection may be used for nearer-term spending needs, including the Minimum Dignity Floor, while partial buffers may apply to longer time horizons where some level of downside can be accepted in exchange for additional upside potential. A listener email introduces the idea of using these as ballast, along with a comparison to bonds and fixed indexed annuities, including differences in liquidity, tax treatment, fee transparency, and how returns are delivered. The post Buffered ETF Mechanics: EDU #2613 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Social Security, Spendthrift Trust, Living Trust: Q&A #2613
2026/03/28
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security timing, whether you can “leave” your Social Security benefit to a spouse who doesn’t independently qualify, having a spendthrift trust purchase an annuity, and using a revocable living trust to manage aging parents’ complex financial affairs. (13:15) A listener born in November asks what their Social Security benefit would be if they begin claiming now, before full retirement age, while still earning $100,000, and when the earnings penalty would lift. (25:15) Jim and Chris field a question on whether you can “leave” your Social Security benefit to a spouse who does not independently qualify for Social Security. (34:00) George asks how to structure his estate so that one child receives an inheritance in installments over 20 years rather than as a lump sum, and whether a trust purchasing an annuity could accomplish that goal. (1:11:30) The guys hear from a listener who explains how being added as co-trustee on his aging parents’ revocable living trust resolved the recurring problem of financial institutions refusing to honor their power of attorney. The post Social Security, Spendthrift Trust, Living Trust: Q&A #2613 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612
2026/03/25
Note: In this episode some information regarding the 5-year rule was misstated – one must get through the fifth, not just be in the fifth year. Jim and Chris clarify on the April 4, 2026 Q&A #2614 episode. If you would like to skip over Jim and Chris’s banter on the weather, that manages to touch on Colorado water rights (an issue many east of the Mississippi probably find baffling), then you can start listening at (11:45). Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our look through the Ed Slott IRA quiz, covering IRA recharacterization rules, how a surviving spouse may use a deceased spouse’s five year period following a spousal rollover, which IRA funds can roll into an employer plan, and the timing trap that can unravel the strategy of using an employer plan to separate after-tax basis from pre-tax funds. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are continuing our run through the Ed Slott IRA quiz — the questions Ed sends out after his twice-yearly training sessions to make sure advisors know not just the right answer but the reasoning behind it. That reasoning is where most people get tripped up, and this episode has several good examples of exactly that. We start with IRA recharacterization rules — the deadline, what has to happen at the custodian level, how attributable gains or losses factor into the math, and a conversion planning tool that Congress took away in the 2018 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was a strategy that made conversion timing far more forgiving than it is today, and the fact that it is gone still stings. From there we get into the Roth IRA five-year rules — specifically a spousal rollover scenario with a twist that most people, including Chris, do not see coming. The answer turns on a benefit the tax code extends to surviving spouses that is easy to overlook if you are not specifically looking for it. We wrap up with which IRA funds can actually be rolled into an employer plan and why that distinction matters if you are sitting on after-tax basis inside a traditional IRA. There is a clean strategy for separating it, but there is also a timing mistake that catches people who think they have successfully pulled it off — when they have not. More people fall into that trap than you would expect, and the consequences are not trivial. The post Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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HSA Reimbursement, Social Security, Conduit Trusts: Q&A #2612
2026/03/21
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails, opening with listener PSAs on Medicare Advantage HSA reimbursement eligibility, then moving into questions on Social Security beneficiary rules and finishing their look at conduit trusts for IRAs. (7:00) A listener asks whether Social Security benefits can be passed on to a significant other. (28:00) The guys continue from last week with a listener’s multi-part question on whether a conduit trust should be structured to distribute RMDs before allowing any additional withdrawals — as a strategy for controlling how beneficiaries access inherited IRA funds. The listener also asks what else could trigger a large tax bill in that setup, and whether a conduit trust provides creditor protection. (1:15:30) George asks for the follow-up promised at the end of a recent episode — specifically, the better approach for having a trust inherit an IRA when you’re concerned about an heir mismanaging the funds. The post HSA Reimbursement, Social Security, Conduit Trusts: Q&A #2612 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Ed Slott Quiz – Widow(er) Tax Penalty and Inherited IRA Rules: EDU #2611
2026/03/18
Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss the Ed Slott quiz questions from his November advisor training, opening with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions before moving into inherited IRA rules — year of death RMDs with multiple beneficiaries and the deadline for satisfying them, spousal rollover options, and spousal RMD timing. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I dig into the Ed Slott quiz from my November advisor training — 20 questions, open book, and I scored 100 this time. We have been doing this for years and it is not just a matter of asking the question, giving the answer and moving on. We get into the rabbit holes, explain the nuances, and use it as a chance for everybody listening to test their own knowledge. We open with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions — and the widow/widower question has nothing to do with IRAs but everything to do with retirement planning. The younger a spouse passes away the more intense the penalty, and the longer both of you live together the less it bites. From there we get deep into inherited IRA rules, which make up the bulk of the episode. How year of death RMDs work when there are multiple beneficiaries, and what the deadline is for satisfying them — there is a question in here that Ed Slott himself argued both sides of for years because the IRS never gave guidance until July 2024. We close on spousal rollover options and RMD timing rules that only apply to surviving spouses. A spouse has choices that no other beneficiary has, and the decision of which way to go can look very different depending on the ages involved. Chris makes the point well — whenever a spouse dies, hit the pause button before you do anything. The post Ed Slott Quiz – Widow(er) Tax Penalty and Inherited IRA Rules: EDU #2611 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Tax Filing, HSAs, I Bonds, RMDs, Roth Conversions: Q&A #2611
2026/03/14
Chris is joined by Jake Turner to discuss listener emails on tax filing for mega backdoor Roth contributions, use of HSA funds, I Bonds redemption timing, lowering RMD pressure, and Roth conversions. (6:30) George asks whether leaving a 1099-R off a return after after-tax 401(k) money was immediately converted to Roth means an amended return is needed or whether the IRS will simply follow up. (12:15) A listener asks whether HSA funds can be used pre-tax to pay fully self-funded health insurance premiums. (17:30) The guys are asked how to evaluate redeeming high fixed-rate I Bonds over several years versus waiting until maturity and risking a large one-year tax bill and IRMAA hit. (30:45) Chris and Jake hear from a widowed listener looking for ways to reduce future RMDs and IRMAA without using Roth conversions or QCDs. (47:45) Another listener asks whether doing very large Roth conversions over a few years could make more sense than staying within lower tax brackets over a longer period. The post Tax Filing, HSAs, I Bonds, RMDs, Roth Conversions: Q&A #2611 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Retirement Planning With a Defined Benefit Pension: EDU #2610
2026/03/11
Chris’s Summary With Jim at the T3 conference in New Orleans, I am joined by Jake Turner to cover how to factor a defined benefit pension into retirement planning, using the situation of a 45-year-old law enforcement officer with a non-covered pension as the backdrop. We walk through evaluating his savings rate against the 15–20% rule of thumb, the lump sum equivalent value of his pension income, why the presence or absence of a COLA matters significantly, and how pension income fits into covering essential expenses over a long retirement. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary While I’m at the T3 conference in New Orleans, Chris and Jake use a listener’s situation to dig into retirement planning with a defined benefit pension. The listener is a 45-year-old law enforcement officer who has been contributing to his pension since day one but only started building outside accounts five years ago. He wants to know where he actually stands — and the answer is more nuanced than a simple savings rate comparison can capture. A big part of that nuance is whether the pension is a non-covered one, meaning it replaces Social Security rather than sitting alongside it. That single distinction changes how you benchmark the savings rate entirely, and it’s the kind of thing that gets glossed over when people just throw out rules of thumb without knowing what’s underneath them. Chris and Jake also get into how pension income fits against the Minimum Dignity Floor — and why a pension that looks rock solid at retirement can tell a very different story decades later if there’s no cost-of-living adjustment attached to it. There’s also a conversation worth hearing about lump sum options — what they’re actually worth, how to think about comparing them to the lifetime income stream, and why the big number isn’t always the better answer. If you have a defined benefit pension and you’ve been wondering how it fits into the bigger retirement picture, or whether you’re ahead or behind where you should be, this episode covers the framework for thinking it through. The post Retirement Planning With a Defined Benefit Pension: EDU #2610 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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IRMAA, RMDs, Conduit Trust: Q&A #2610
2026/03/08
Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on PSAs regarding IRMAA reimbursements, RMD in-kind transfers, and naming a conduit trust as a retirement account beneficiary. (8:15) A listener shares a PSA that an IRMAA reimbursement was applied as a credit balance drawn down over several months rather than a lump sum. (17:00) The guys discuss a listener PSA on SSA-44 filing: when income is underestimated and IRMAA is owed, Medicare reconciles the difference the following November or December with no penalties or interest assessed. (33:45) George asks whether an RMD can be satisfied through an in-kind transfer of mutual funds to a brokerage account, and whether only a portion needs to be sold to cover the tax bill. (46:00) Jim and Chris take up a listener question about naming a conduit trust as a contingent beneficiary for retirement accounts, kicking off Part 1 of a broader discussion on see-through and conduit trusts — what each structure is, how they differ, and what happens when an IRA names a trust as its beneficiary. They begin exploring the tax implications and planning considerations involved, noting that these arrangements can create both benefits and unintended complications depending on how they’re set up. The conversation will continue on the next week’s Q&A episode, where they’ll complete this listener’s question and address additional questions received on the topic. The post IRMAA, RMDs, Conduit Trust: Q&A #2610 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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Fisher’s 99 Retirement Tips, Part 2: EDU #2609
2026/03/04
Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our discussion on 99 Retirement Tips from Fisher Investments, picking up where we left off last week. We cover involving children in financial decisions, the liquidity trade-off of paying off a mortgage early, renting before buying in a new retirement location, lifetime gifts as part of the fun budget, and watching for financial predators including a disputed suggestion that low advisor fees may be a warning sign. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are back where we left off, working through Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips, and there’s still plenty to dig into. Tip 23 makes the case for involving your children in your financial decisions — and the reasons go deeper than most people think about. Tip 26 gets into mortgage payoff, and while we partially agree with what Fisher says about it — paying it down doesn’t change your net worth. But it does change your liquidity, and that distinction is worth considering. Tip 32 is one I feel personally right now: if you’re relocating in retirement, rent first. Never move anywhere with a vacation mindset. I’m doing it in Ohio as we speak, and I’d tell anyone thinking about a move to do the same. Tip 74 recommends lifetime gifting — and the way we handle it, that spending belongs in your Fun Number budget. There’s no written rule you have to wait until you’re gone to help the people you care about. And tip 86 covers financial predators, which is largely solid — but there’s one line in there that made my blood boil when I read it. The implication is that an advisor charging lower fees might be a warning sign. I have never seen any consumer advocate say that. The 99 retirement tips review of this particular point raises a question worth sitting with: who exactly benefits from that framing? The post Fisher’s 99 Retirement Tips, Part 2: EDU #2609 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.
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4.3 out of 5
724 reviews
mike2me17 2026/04/19
Most Advanced Retirement Process
This show is LONG and very in depth. Consistently delivers the most advanced retirement insights on Social Security and they have a pretty ingenious m...
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Interested bystander 2026/02/12
This show grows on you, except ...
The rabbit discussion is very bizarre. And the comments about Illinois. That was a funny comment about Jim being a pithy speaker.
Steeler Craig 2026/03/16
Unfortunately insurance salesman who also talk about investments
Their defense of annuities showed their hand. They are insurance shills who also talk about investing. Interesting information and some good insight, ...
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ecolitango 2026/02/05
A show that helps me keep my head above water
Jim and Chris are very knowledgeable and share their retirement planning with us. As an aside, I enjoy the banter and the state quizzes. I admit it t...
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Bummerdudenatious 2026/02/04
Unparalleled retirement information
Amazing accurate and detailed information as well as practical approaches to common and challenging retirement concerns. The absolute best content in ...
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PeeBee333 2026/01/26
My New Fav Investing and Retirement Show
Jim and Chris are great!! I enjoy the banter ( and weather reports) but their deep knowledge of financial planning, retirement makes this podcast inv...
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Dan Lunceford 2025/12/25
Incredibly informative and Useful
Jim and Chris (as well as the team) do an amazing job of delving into the details of a variety of retirement topics. When appropriate they relate the...
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Mick J 2025/12/05
The Click and Clack of Retirement podcasts
Chris and Jim and their crew make me rethink assumptions, focus on the older me and feel relief that some good people will pay for an elder’s strawber...
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lyraoaxaca 2025/12/05
One of the best
Good information, honest approach, and original thoughts and strategies make this one of the few I’ve stuck with over the years. Banter without the “c...
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Kelthebold 2025/11/07
Informative & Entertaining
Jim and Chris, oops, I’m sorry…Bugs and Cowboy are very good at taking a subject and dissecting it until even a troglodyte can understand the particul...
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