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144 episodes
Language
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Craig Heacock MDExplicit
Yes
Date created
2019/06/23
Latest episode
2026/01/23
Average duration
66 min.
Release period
20 days
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How do we find a way out of the darkest depths of despair? Psychiatrist Dr. Craig Heacock hosts a deep dive into powerfully moving stories of hope and healing, as well as topical explorations of psychopharmacology, psychotherapy, and psychedelics.
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The Scary Med List-- A Case Consultation with Dr. H
2026/01/23
Dr. H dives deep into a patient's scary, confusing, and ill-advised list of psych meds to illustrate some deeper truths and lessons about psychopharmacology and the med management model of psychiatry.
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Bringing Therapy into Med Management-- An intensive workshop for psych NPs and PAs, June 3-6 2026 in Ft Collins
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/bringing-therapy-into-med-management/
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Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, Ketamine, and Psychiatry 3.0
2026/01/09
Dr. H sits down with Dr. Elizabeth Fenstermacher, Medical Director of the TMS Clinic at the University of Colorado- Anschutz to explore the growing role of TMS and neuromodulation in psychiatry. They explore questions such as:
•How should we think about TMS vs ketamine in the treatment of depression? Trauma? OCD?
•Who are the best candidates for TMS?
•What are the relative merits of intensive TMS (SAINT) vs standard protocols?
•How might TMS and ketamine work together to promote psychiatric stability?
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Dr. Elizabeth Fenstermacher
https://som.cuanschutz.edu/Profiles/Faculty/Profile/33013
Patient selection for TMS- Case report with Dr. Fenstermacher
https://journals.lww.com/hrpjournal/fulltext/2025/11000/case_report__personalizing_transcranial_magnetic.3.aspx
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A listener-built, human-curated index of every Back From The Abyss episode to help you find themes, topics, and episode formats of interest.
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When psychiatric illness isn't just psychiatric-- The immune system, PANS, and psychiatric mimicry
2025/12/26
There is a growing awareness in psychiatry that not all psychiatric illness is psychiatric— some percentage of what presents in psychiatric settings is actually triggered by autoimmune responses to various pathogens and insults. In the late '90s a syndrome called PANDAS (pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with strep) came on the scene with cases of sudden onset OCD and tics that appeared in conjunction with strep infections. The theory behind PANDAS was that parts of the basal ganglia of the brain had exterior cell proteins which were very similar to those of the strep bacteria, and as the immune system began to attack the strep bacteria, it also began an autoimmune assault on parts of the midbrain, including the basal ganglia, thus producing a sudden onset of OCD or tics.
In recent years PANDAS has evolved into a broader concept called PANS— pediatric acute onset neuropsychiatric syndrome— which includes a vast array of neurological and psychiatric symptoms and syndromes that can potentially be triggered by autoimmune reactions. It can be tricky to diagnose PANS….this is probably why it is still a somewhat controversial diagnosis in some arenas. We don’t have a clear and consistent set of labs or biomarkers to positively determine PANS, and because the syndrome is so broad in how it can present, clinicians struggle to come up with a modal or average presentation that they can put in their pattern recognition systems.
One feature that seems fairly classic for PANS is that the symptoms tend to increase during and/or right after a concomitant infectious illness, presumably because the immune system activation is reigniting the autoimmune attack on the central nervous system.
Today’s story features a mom, Kari, and her daughter, Zoe. Zoe had lots of illness and immune system issues as a young child, first fatigue and then GI symptoms, then profound mood instability, and then she eventually developed horrific treatment resistant anorexia which did not respond to the best treatments psychiatry had to offer.
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Best viewed on a laptop or desktop (not mobile).
Content Catalog (in Google Sheets): https://bftapod.short.gy/index
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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10 Questions to Deepen Psychotherapy-- Inviting the Here and Now
2025/12/12
Psychotherapy can often get stuck in a there and then storytelling mode....how do we shift the therapeutic encounter into the immediacy of the Here and Now? Here Dr. H shares 10 questions which shine a spotlight on what's happening (and not happening!) between therapist and patient.
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Is DID real? Parts, alters, exiles, and what's allowed in the therapeutic space
2025/11/28
Dr. H sits down with Jade Miller, a peer support specialist and advocate for public education about DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). In the first part of this episode, Jade shares her story and how she came to understand that the puzzling gaps and often frightening incongruities in her life were caused by her rotating through a number of dissociated identities or alters, initially protecting her… but eventually leaving her powerless to stop repeated traumatization. Jade and Dr. H then talk shop about DID and Jade challenges some of Dr. H's long held beliefs.
Jade Miller
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Best viewed on a laptop or desktop (not mobile).
Content Catalog (in Google Sheets): https://bftapod.short.gy/index
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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Parenting through the storm-- Adoption, trauma, acceptance, and humility
2025/11/14
BFTA storyteller Frank shares the joy, confusion, chaos, utter fear, and deepest gratitude when he and his partner Brad adopted and raised two boys, ages 4 and 2, from the foster care system. Twenty years ago, when Frank adopted the boys, trauma was not in the public awareness as it is today, and he was told that these little boys, who had spent some time in a meth house, might well have some challenges…..but he never could have expected what awaited.
Can love overcome trauma? Can stability and structure and patience and compassion adequately compensate for profound early childhood neglect and abuse? Frank’s story is just one example, but it’s a beautiful one, these two dads trying to find a way to heal deep attachment wounds without a roadmap.
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When our minds forget our bodies remember-- A trauma therapist comes back to life
2025/10/31
Rachael, a trauma therapist and today's storyteller, describes how her early childhood abuse was buried by the protective mechanism of dissociative amnesia. As Rachael wrote to Dr. H, “The only way I could continue to live, with no way out, with no one to tell, with no words even to describe what was happening to me, was to forget what was happening to me….when our minds forget, our bodies remember.”
Rachael saved herself by forgetting, then was forced to finally face what happened to her when her body carried out its ultimate rebellion in the context of having her third child, her first girl….a little baby girl, with no one to protect her….or at least that’s what the terrible and unrelenting obsessions began to say.
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Rachael Parsons Svendsen
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Best viewed on a laptop or desktop (not mobile).
Content Catalog (in Google Sheets): https://bftapod.short.gy/index
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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Treatment-resistant bipolar disorder-- Finding stability at last
2025/10/17
This story is a mirror to Elizabeth’s story from season 1 episode 1. Today’s storyteller Sarah was so moved by Elizabeth’s story that it helped her to trust Dr. H's recommendation to take a pretty scary medication, the extremely powerful antipsychotic and mood stabilizer called clozapine.
So why tell this story again? As they say, history doesn’t repeat itself, but it does often rhyme, and Sarah’s story rhymes beautifully with Elizabeth’s. Both had severe and treatment resistant bipolar 1 disorder, formerly known as manic-depression. Both tried all the meds, did all the things, then eventually reached a point of utter hopelessness and despair….and then they had to trust Dr. H enough to try one more thing.
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"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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Hiding in plain sight-- Life, work, and therapy on the autistic spectrum
2025/10/03
In today’s story we explore what it’s like to be on the autistic spectrum, and more specifically, how a later life diagnosis can totally change the way you view the world and yourself. Aurelie, our storyteller today, was an autism expert, a clinical psychologist who had trained with some of the premier autism experts in the country…yet she didn’t discover her own autism until she was 40 years old.
This episode explores why women on the spectrum are so often missed, how women on the autistic spectrum are so often masters of masking, which means imitating the mannerisms and behaviors of neurotypical people, thus allowing them to both fit in and also to be left hiding in plain sight.
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Dr. Aurelie Welterlin
https://www.ncawag.net/our-team/dr-aurelie-welterlin
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
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Trapped in secrecy and shame-- A boy, his coach, and healing trauma with MDMA
2025/09/19
How do you rebuild trust amidst the ashes of trauma? This is the story of Sean, an up and coming star tennis player whose coach carefully selected him and then groomed him for years of sexual assault. His trust destroyed, Sean had to find a way to try to trust again…..and after many years of hiding and pretending and near self-destruction, Sean finally was able to share the details of what happened to him. Thus began his therapeutic journey of finding compassion for himself and trust toward others…with the guidance of his two devoted therapists and the assistance of MDMA.
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"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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BFTA Summer Special-- The Wisdom of the Psychedelic Therapy Underground
2025/08/14
In this fourth annual summer psychedelic special, Dr. H sits down to hear some hard-earned wisdom from a therapist colleague who has been doing underground MDMA and psilocybin work for years.
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA
https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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Chris, Craig, and Special Guest Fish in Fishbowl 6
2025/06/06
Chris and Craig invite Antonio Sacre, an LA-based professional storyteller, author, and BFTA super-advisor into the Fishbowl to deconstruct season 6.
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Psychiatric Nurse Practitioners in the Treatment Landscape
2025/05/23
Craig sits down with his mentee and colleague Mandy Bliss, a psychiatric NP in Louisville KY, to explore the compelling and complex challenges of meeting the ever-expanding need for psychiatric care. Unlike in psychiatric residencies, much of the current training of psychiatric NPs is done online. Does this constitute adequate training? And what of psychotherapy?
Mandy Bliss MSN, APRN, FNP-BC, PMHNP-BC
https://blisspsych.com/
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The Enneagram in the Therapeutic Relationship
2025/05/09
Craig sits down with Colorado-based psychotherapist and Enneagram expert Joy Gribble (Elemental Psychedelics; Reflective Healing) to explore how the Enneagram can predict the strengths, fears, and blind spots of both the therapist and the client/patient in the complex dynamics of therapy.
Joy Gribble
https://www.reflectivehealing.com/about-joy-gribble-fort-collins
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, Feb 4th-6th 2026 in Joshua Tree, CA https://www.craigheacockmd.com/i-love-you-i-hate-you-are-you-my-mom/
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Meds can't fill the trauma hole-- Attachment, maternal wounding, and the challenges of coming off meds
2025/04/25
Here Dr. H sits down with Lisa, a pediatric nurse practitioner, to witness her story of developmental trauma, concomitant chronic depression, and eventually her path of healing and rebuilding trust and connection, largely through psychotherapy. During her years of intermittently crippling and suicidal depression, she was put on various psych meds, which might have helped at the time, but later became shockingly difficult to try to taper and stop. This is a story of overcoming shame, a story that looks at the question of whether people need meds for life….and it turns out, surprise surprise, that what’s causing or driving depression actually really matters….and when that’s a Mom wound, most psych meds are really just acting as flimsy bandages.
"I Love You, I Hate You, Are You My Mom?" An intensive experiential workshop exploring transference with Dr. H and Dr. Hillary McBride, May 28-30 in Victoria BC
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MeRebekkah 2025/11/16
My Best Loved Podcast!
This podcast has been very helpful to my mental health journey. I love the way clients talk about appropriately loving their therapist and Psychiatris...
Tarheel10s 2025/10/07
DCH is a Rockstar
Dr. Craig is brilliant in his knowledge and ability to interview victims, therapists and other brave guests regarding trauma journeys and healing. Th...
Lisaatp 2025/07/20
A Sacred Space
Dr. Heacock has created something truly magical with this podcast. And then, Chris adds to the magic with the music. It’s a beautiful combination… of ...
Janeeleabq12395xht 2025/05/18
5 out of 5 consistently
🌶️ 🌶️ 🌶️ 🌶️ 🌶️
Loved the recent episode on the Enneagram.
Keep ‘em coming!!
An_Odonian 2025/05/16
Storytelling at its most real.
As a non-clinician interested in mental health, I find each of BFTA's episode formats informative and inspiring.
The primary episode formats includ...
AngieBac 2025/02/28
Incredibly Helpful and Informative
This podcast is so good! As a psychotherapist, I listen to this podcast to learn and I often visit an episode repeatedly. I’ve also recommended episod...
CCCBE 2024/12/21
Such a gift
As a psychotherapist I find this podcast endlessly helpful and moving. I’ve learned a ton about medication management and how to conceptualize depress...
CautiousOptimist314 2024/12/11
A wonderful gift and unique perspective!
Dr. Heacock has really created something special with BFTA. It is heart felt, informative, and entertaining. It is an honest, deeply personal look at ...
KseniaBarone 2024/10/06
Deepest of all
These stories are so real, so raw and so deeply heartbreaking yet beautiful, there is so much pain and hope… I only came across BFTA a few weeks ago a...
Ginnayo 2024/05/16
Incredible podcast!!!
I am a counseling associate and when I tell you I have learned more from this podcast than I did in my entire grad school program, I am not exaggerati...
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