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Jenna Wilson & Jenelle BorgstromExplicit
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Date created
2021/03/30
Latest episode
2022/06/01
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Jenna and Jenelle LOVE talking about all the shit you don't want to tell anyone else. So whether you're a mom, dad, caregiver, human adult, we're here to talk about all the mess.
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Jenelle's Plastic Surgery Journey
2022/06/01
Speaking of “shit we’re not supposed to talk about”, this week, Jenelle bares all aspects of her plastic surgery journey. She pre-recorded half the episode and then come back to explain the REAL truth behind surgery, recovery and the stigma around enhancement procedures. Jenna will pepper her with questions, as usual, and both hosts will discuss the benefits of lymphatic massage. Plus, all your neighbors are getting procedures, they’re just not talking about it openly, so let’s blow the lid of this “taboo topic.
Rad bra company mentioned by Jenelle at the 4 minute mark:
https://www.liviloulaine.com
Scar tape:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09C1FZY78/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8andpsc=1
Drain holder for shower (boob job or tummy tuck):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VYTH3ZX/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_JPJ7RV1NJ1BPDVP41JH7?_encoding=UTF8andpsc=1
ALSO recommended for tummy tucks:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088R55BX6/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_QC245ER6S92R5TY1KC27?th=1
Friend of the show/Digestive wizard:
IG: @whitneyc.the.rd
IG Influencer that advocated for post surgical care:
@mywholeassjourney
The "NOM NOMS"episode
2022/05/25
TW: Self-harm mentioned at 38 minutes.
In this episode, Jenna and Jenelle discuss the TikTok that went viral, about a piece posted on http://thecut.com (thecut.com) entitled, “Epiphany in the Baby-Food Aisle: On a trip to the grocery store one day, I had a realization about me, my son, and the meaning of life."
By https://www.thecut.com/author/jessi-klein/ (Jessi Klein)
The hosts dive into the many ways motherhood “annihilates us” and how we all do our best to cope. How every mom you meet is fighting a silent battle, and how we all are just doing our best to not run away screaming most days.
The Article:
https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/excerpt-ill-show-myself-out-jessi-klein.html (https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/excerpt-ill-show-myself-out-jessi-klein.html)
The Book:
https://www.amazon.com/Ill-Show-Myself-Out-Motherhood/dp/0062981595/ref=asc_df_0062981595/?tag=hyprod-20andlinkCode=df0andhvadid=564630212541andhvpos=andhvnetw=gandhvrand=1506460334774740677andhvpone=andhvptwo=andhvqmt=andhvdev=candhvdvcmdl=andhvlocint=andhvlocphy=9021546andhvtargid=pla-1665108995037andpsc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Ill-Show-Myself-Out-Motherhood/dp/0062981595/ref=asc_df_0062981595/?tag=hyprod-20andlinkCode=df0andhvadid=564630212541andhvpos=andhvnetw=gandhvrand=1506460334774740677andhvpone=andhvptwo=andhvqmt=andhvdev=candhvdvcmdl=andhvlocint=andhvlocphy=9021546andhvtargid=pla-1665108995037andpsc=1)
Bullying: Both Sides of the Story
2022/05/19
Oooh hot topic alert! Bullying is very prevalent in today’s society, but is it TRULY bullying or is it teasing? Listen in to learn the difference and what to do if your child is experiencing either situation. Jenna and Jenelle cover both sides on this episode by diving in on what to do if your kid is being, bullied as well as what to do if your kid IS the bully.
Notice of Harassment form- http://www.documatica-forms.com/bullying.php (http://www.documatica-forms.com/bullying.php)
Stopbullying.gov
https://goop.com/wellness/parenthood/when-your-kid-is-the-bully/ (https://goop.com/wellness/parenthood/when-your-kid-is-the-bully/)
Intrusive + Ruminating Thoughts
2022/05/09
TW: Eating disorders and child death imagery discussed.
Jenna and Jenelle catch you up on, surmise, their current favorite workouts, before diving into a Mental Health Month topic. Anxiety produces intrusive and/or ruminating thoughts in people with the condition, but Jenna will explain other disorders than can produce the symptoms described in this episode. Also they will touch on some of their lowest lows with intrusive and ruminating thoughts (perinatal and postpartum anyone?), as well as what they have found helps in their never ending quest to be the best, mentally-ill humans they can be.
Peloton: Reminder, we can send you a free trial and you don’t need an equipment for barre classes. Go to strength, the sub-category barre.
Free trial link:
https://www.onepeloton.com/digital/checkout/digital-gp-60d?utm_source=ios_appandutm_medium=in_appandcode=e99302c8088d4e28a5a6a0d29ba2f4e8andlocale=en-US (https://www.onepeloton.com/digital/checkout/digital-gp-60d?utm_source=ios_appandutm_medium=in_appandcode=e99302c8088d4e28a5a6a0d29ba2f4e8andlocale=en-US)
Licorice tabs - https://www.nhc.com/rhizinate-fructose-free-by-integrative-therapeutics?quantity=1andutm_source=googleandutm_medium=cpcandutm_campaign=sales-new-business-plaandgclid=Cj0KCQjw1N2TBhCOARIsAGVHQc68PZ_qb9DUKPh4DNnLcfnq829nr0NcBTJUhVCp6Nya5r0Ryh-cXmMaAtbHEALw_wcB (https://www.nhc.com/rhizinate-fructose-free-by-integrative-therapeutics?quantity=1andutm_source=googleandutm_medium=cpcandutm_campaign=sales-new-business-plaandgclid=Cj0KCQjw1N2TBhCOARIsAGVHQc68PZ_qb9DUKPh4DNnLcfnq829nr0NcBTJUhVCp6Nya5r0Ryh-cXmMaAtbHEALw_wcB)
Books on evolutionary brain wiring:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062316117?tag=goodbooks009-20andgeniuslink=true (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062316117?tag=goodbooks009-20andgeniuslink=true)
Attachment Styles
2022/05/02
Let’s talk attachment styles! This week Jenna and Jenelle discuss the different types of attachment styles, what it means for adulthood and what can be done if a desired attachment style isn’t achieved. Listen in as the ladies work their way through the attachment styles and be sure to take the ACE quiz linked below. Enjoy!
GOOP article:
https://goop.com/wellness/parenthood/how-to-raise-securely-attached-children/ (https://goop.com/wellness/parenthood/how-to-raise-securely-attached-children/)
ACE quiz: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean)
https://www.verywellmind.com/attachment-styles-2795344 (https://www.verywellmind.com/attachment-styles-2795344)
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/relationships-communication/attachment-and-adult-relationships.htm (https://www.helpguide.org/articles/relationships-communication/attachment-and-adult-relationships.htm)
College: Gen Z and Gen Alpha
2022/04/25
This week, Jenna and Jenelle tackle the ever changing economic landscape and whether or not that still fits with the traditional 4 year college experience. Jenna and Jenelle are admittedly “college apathetic” but will bring some discussion points to the table for both sides of the debate. Is college going to relevant for “Generation Alpha” and what college alternatives are currently being offered as well as what is to come.
Sources:
https://www.inc.com/ryan-jenkins/straight-to-work-6-reasons-generation-z-will-skip-college.html (https://www.inc.com/ryan-jenkins/straight-to-work-6-reasons-generation-z-will-skip-college.html)
https://investedwallet.com/best-gig-economy-jobs/ (https://investedwallet.com/best-gig-economy-jobs/)
Awkward Dating Stories
2022/04/04
It’s the one year anniversary party! This week, Jenna and Jenelle decided to shake things up a bit and asked you for some of you best, most awkward dating stories. Enjoy all the cringe with none of the personal experience and ever-lasting trauma of having to live through these awkward dates. All true stories. Mostly listeners and friends of the show.
Kids + Screen Time: The Great Debate
2022/03/28
Hot topic alert! On this episode Jenna and Jenelle discuss the cons (AND pros) of screen time. Screen time is such a popular topic in today’s world and the ladies try to cover all the bases of this topic. They also give tips for how to include more screens in a healthy way, as well as how to screen detox for anyone interested in that wild adventure (we do it all the time, so we’re basically experts… JK no parent is an expert on anything, TBH). Jenna is much more limited with screens than Jenelle, but Jenelle is still considered a “limited screen” family. But both your favorite hosts have had wildly different views and practices throughout their mom-ventures.
Boy’s Adrift book- https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Adrift-Epidemic-Unmotivated-Underachieving/dp/0465040829/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1334807681055764andhvadid=83425718989764andhvbmt=beandhvdev=candhvlocphy=66922andhvnetw=oandhvqmt=eandhvtargid=kwd-83425828115147%3Aloc-190andhydadcr=8895_13533692andkeywords=boys+adrift+bookandqid=1647551330andsr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Adrift-Epidemic-Unmotivated-Underachieving/dp/0465040829/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1334807681055764andhvadid=83425718989764andhvbmt=beandhvdev=candhvlocphy=66922andhvnetw=oandhvqmt=eandhvtargid=kwd-83425828115147%3Aloc-190andhydadcr=8895_13533692andkeywords=boys+adrift+bookandqid=1647551330andsr=8-1)
Jenelle’s Articles:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/screen-time/art-20047952 (https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/screen-time/art-20047952)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/10/22/oxford-study-challenges-what-youve-been-told-about-screen-time-and-kids-for-years/?sh=5a6000ce13bd (https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/10/22/oxford-study-challenges-what-youve-been-told-about-screen-time-and-kids-for-years/?sh=5a6000ce13bd)
https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Children-And-Watching-TV-054.aspx (https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Children-And-Watching-TV-054.aspx)
Why Women Criticize Other Women.
2022/03/21
TW: Miscarriage discussed at 14:48
In this week’s installment of “the shit we’re not supposed to talk about”, Jenna and Jenelle tackle the tricky topic of why women are so quick to talk badly about each other. Why does it feel ingrained in our DNA to put down other women for having things we want or for being more successful than us? Is it hardwired, or is it this face-paced social media world we all live in? Join the hosts as they discuss why YOU might be critical of someone else, what it means when someone is critical of you, and whether someone else’s opinion of you ever REALLY matters. Yes, that includes BOSSES. And also, the paradox of “being great at something” and what that really means? Are you really THAT great, or do you just possess something one small fraction of society finds valuable? Join us on another wild ride, exploring why women criticize other women, this week on Done Playing By the Rules.
https://goop.com/wellness/career-money/why-women-criticize-each-other-plus-ways-to-play-bigger/ (https://goop.com/wellness/career-money/why-women-criticize-each-other-plus-ways-to-play-bigger/)
Kids and Grief
2022/03/14
Have you ever been faced with the difficult situation of talking to kids about death and/or grief? In this episode, Jenna and Jenelle cover this heavy and uncomfortable (yet important) topic. While they are not certified experts (IN LITERALLY ANYTHING), they do have a ton of (unfortunate) first-hand experience in discussing death and grief with young children. The ladies give tips from personal experience, as well as from well-researched articles. While this topic is heavy and something most of us don’t like to think about, the ladies do try to keep it light. Maybe they'll even toss in some inappropriate jokes? Who knows! Tune in this week to learn how to talk with kids about death because, unfortunately, we will all have to face it, sooner or later.
Books referenced:
The Invisible String- https://theinvisiblestring.com (https://theinvisiblestring.com)
Waterbeds and Dragonflies:Explaining Death to Young Children- https://www.amazon.com/Water-Bugs-Dragonflies-Explaining-Children/dp/B00D82131W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1I4L43JKQW8UGandkeywords=waterbugs+and+dragonflies+bookandqid=1646860219ands=booksandsprefix=waterb%2Cstripbooks%2C74andsr=1-2 (https://www.amazon.com/Water-Bugs-Dragonflies-Explaining-Children/dp/B00D82131W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1I4L43JKQW8UGandkeywords=waterbugs+and+dragonflies+bookandqid=1646860219ands=booksandsprefix=waterb%2Cstripbooks%2C74andsr=1-2)
Why Do Things Die- https://usborne.com/us/first-questions-and-answers-why-do-things-die-9780794551025 (https://usborne.com/us/first-questions-and-answers-why-do-things-die-9780794551025)
It’s Ok that You’re Not Ok- https://www.amazon.com/Its-That-Youre-Not-Understand/dp/1622039076/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1346902551495407andhvadid=84181633381221andhvbmt=beandhvdev=candhvlocphy=66922andhvnetw=oandhvqmt=eandhvtargid=kwd-84181956235431%3Aloc-190andhydadcr=22592_13494530andkeywords=it%27s+ok+that+you%27re+not+ok+bookandqid=1646867074andsr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Its-That-Youre-Not-Understand/dp/1622039076/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1346902551495407andhvadid=84181633381221andhvbmt=beandhvdev=candhvlocphy=66922andhvnetw=oandhvqmt=eandhvtargid=kwd-84181956235431%3Aloc-190andhydadcr=22592_13494530andkeywords=it%27s+ok+that+you%27re+not+ok+bookandqid=1646867074andsr=8-1)
Adult ADHD
2022/03/07
This week, Jenelle shares the journey to her recent ADHD diagnosis. Jenelle had suspicions for the last year and half, that ADHD could be a contributing factor to her mental health struggles, but didn’t go through with a perusing a diagnosis until 2 months ago. ADHD diagnoses are becoming increasingly common in 30-40 year olds, as we start digging into our issues in therapy and addressing things that we don’t want to pass on to our kids. And on that same topic, did you know ADHD runs in families? Because Jenelle did NOT. As usual, Jenna will pepper Jenelle with questions, and there will be humor and plenty of cussing. Enjoy!
Jenelle’s medication: https://www.drugs.com/mtm/atomoxetine.html (https://www.drugs.com/mtm/atomoxetine.html)
Podcast: Whiskey Ginger (guest NIKKI GLASER)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-ginger-w-andrew-santino/id1440300401?i=1000490899050 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-ginger-w-andrew-santino/id1440300401?i=1000490899050)
Does Your Family Have a "Safety Plan"?
2022/02/28
This episode is a different but important one. Jenna and Jenelle discuss their family safety plans and what they have in place to keep their families safe as well as where they need to improve. This is a conversation that is very important to the ladies and something not many people talk about since it is a subject that they hope never becomes a reality.
Judy kit- https:http://www.judy.co (www.judy.co)
Cabellas freeze dried food kit- https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/wise-company-60-serving-freeze-dried-entree-meal-kit?ds_e=MICROSOFTandds_c=Shop%7CCAB%7CTopPerformers%7CHuntingandmsclkid=b1c72443999c1782335146551b7088c8andgclid=b1c72443999c1782335146551b7088c8andgclsrc=3p.ds (https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/wise-company-60-serving-freeze-dried-entree-meal-kit?ds_e=MICROSOFTandds_c=Shop%7CCAB%7CTopPerformers%7CHuntingandmsclkid=b1c72443999c1782335146551b7088c8andgclid=b1c72443999c1782335146551b7088c8andgclsrc=3p.ds)
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ShellTrevMyers 2021/09/13
The Best
My favorite podcast! Content is absolutely so relatable and love these two personalities! The guests have also been A+ with such great Info. Love it!
6DDE6C8A78 2021/06/11
My fav
Real. Relatable. Raw. Everything you want in a podcast. Jenelle and Jenna are the friends you want to have, but have a hard time finding.
kleigh131 2021/06/05
5 stars for content
The content is great and very relatable so I’m giving five stars! Too much swearing for my liking though!
jeffmayer96 2021/05/16
Jenna Wilson is da trooof
Title says it all
Want to tone 2021/05/03
Best Podcast!
I am so thankful for this podcast, and will be sharing it with all my friends. I love how open and honest they are. What a breath of fresh air!
Apriljmelton 2021/04/21
IMPORTANT
grateful that these two are discussing these topics - my dad has terminal cancer and I can’t imagine what it will be like when he goes.
Thank you fo...
LPhelps515 2021/04/05
Must listen
Just two moms keeping in real while interjecting some laughs!
Jjbw12345 2021/04/04
GIVE ME MORE
LOVED THIS! Real talk curse words humor=my favorite
PBJane 2021/04/02
Finally...reality
Finally...reality openly discussed ❤️Already hooked, can’t wait for more!!!!
jqjeb dn 2021/04/01
Love it!
Super relatable ! My new favorite show!
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