Sharon Says So

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Have you ever heard a story that has left your mind blown? The kind of story that sounds like a pure exaggeration? The kind of story that you want to turn around and tell to all your friends, family, colleagues, and neighbors? Those are the stories you can expect to hear on The Sharon Says So Podcast, every single week. Host Sharon McMahon, a longtime government and law teacher, has amassed hundreds of thousands of followers on her viral Instagram account @sharonsaysso where she combats political misinformation with non-partisan facts. Sharon is no stranger to the rumor mill and is here to expose the damning details and unheard truth behind the TRUE stories of America you may never knew existed from espionage to sled dogs to presidential scandals and much, much more. Sharon will also be joined each week by some of the nation’s most prolific thought leaders, government officials, authors and more to discuss developing matters of national importance in an effort to keep you informed on today’s rapidly changing news cycle. See for privacy and opt-out information.

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148. Momentum: The Ripples Made by Ordinary People, Part 3
On today’s episode of our special series, Momentum: Civil Rights in the 1950s, Sharon guides us to a lawsuit years in the making, that shaped America. While some of the names tied with the milestone have been all but lost to history, you will hear many of those uncredited names mentioned in this episode, including McKinley Bernet, Vivian Marshall, and Lucinda Todd. The year was 1952 when Brown v. The Board of Education was argued before the Supreme Court by our friend, Thurgood Marshall. But did you know that the case was actually heard by the high court twice? You also might not know that J. Edgar Hoover, mentioned in previous episodes, was spying on the Supreme Court Justices for decades. What would Hoover have to gain from these warrantless wiretaps? See for privacy and opt-out information.
147. Momentum: The Ripples Made by Ordinary People, Part 2
On today’s episode of our special series, Momentum: Civil Rights in the 1950s, Sharon continues the story of young Thurgood Marshall as he travels to rural Tennessee on behalf of the NAACP and finds himself on the wrong side of trumped up charges and an angry mob. We also reconnect with George McLaurin and hear about Ada Fisher, two lifelong students who wanted equal opportunities in education and stood firm until they had a victorious Supreme Court ruling. Sharon also catches listeners up with J. Egar Hoover as he begins to transform the Federal Bureau of Investigation, though not without stirring up controversy over his denial of organized crime. What made Hoover so hesitant to pursue mid-century crime bosses? See for privacy and opt-out information.
146. Momentum: The Ripples Made by Ordinary People, Part 1
Welcome to the first episode of our new special series, Momentum: Civil Rights in the 1950s. Today, Sharon introduces us to a few key people who became the driving force behind early Civil Rights activism. We meet a young man named Thuroughgood–a bit of a troublemaker who put his curiosity and sense of justice to work and sought incremental change through the legal system. Joining him in the fight against the longstanding legality of “separate but equal” was the McLaurin family. Together, they sued the University of Oklahoma, which gave George McLaurin admission to the graduate program alongside white students… but the journey to true equal learning had only just begun. Sharon also introduces us to another important person–arguably America’s most powerful man in the mid-20th century–who was both a help and hindrance to the Civil Rights Movement. See for privacy and opt-out information.
145. The Immoral Choices of Rogues with Patrick Radden Keefe
In this episode, Sharon is joined by writer and author Patrick Radden Keefe, whose new book, Rogues, tells twelve stories of people with big personalities–the grifters, the rebels, the crooks, the crime families, and the people who don’t play by the rules. Patrick talks about how he researches his larger-than-life stories, and gives us a few teasers, like what it was like to interview a woman who is in the Witness Protection Program after testifying against her own brother, and how deeply he dove into the world of wine fraud and revenge. Patrick is fascinated by the choices people make, and what it takes to get inside their minds where they justify their actions, and perhaps even consider themselves the hero of their own stories. See for privacy and opt-out information.
144. Legislating at the State Level with Representative Jen Schultz
In this episode, Sharon talks to Minnesota State Legislator Jen Schultz. Jen is currently running for Congress, and is also an educator who has taught economics at the University of Minnesota Duluth for about twenty years. Rep Schultz talks about the ins and outs of working in state government: how budgets are set as well as how bills are written, introduced, prioritized, and voted on. She touches topics like model legislation, which is when a state reviews bills that have passed in other states and looks at ways to adapt it to their state, how state legislators work together across the aisle, and what they do when the session has wrapped for the season (there’s a lot of door knocking involved). Shifting gears, Sharon and Rep. Schultz talk about her current run for Congress, how she plans to bring her state expertise to the federal level, and the value women bring to political office. See for privacy and opt-out information.
143. The Power of Community, Micro Actions, and Boundaries with Jenna Kutcher
In today’s episode, Jenna Kutcher sits down to talk with Sharon about the release of her first book, How Are You, Really?: Living Your Truth One Answer at a Time and how she wrote the manuscript in secret, doing it on her own terms. Jenna loved the refining process with her book, which saw it evolve from a business and marketing subject into a book that gets more personal, tackling topics like body image, loneliness, community, and personal intuition. Sharon and Jenna also touch on their shared sense of community living in the same Northern Minnesota city, and how to both tackle life’s challenges one small step at a time and say no when you need to. See for privacy and opt-out information.
142. Why We Love the Things We Love with Aaron Ahuvia
In this episode, Sharon spends time speaking with Dr. Aaron Ahuvia, who is an expert on a specific kind of love: our love of things–things like places, objects, brands, and activities. The things we love tend to be part of our own identity: perhaps a part of our childhood, or something we spend a lot of time with. Aaron advocates for using our particular loves–poker, PEZ dispensers, sneakers, water sports–in leading us to others who share our common interests, and can be a catalyst in forging interpersonal relationships. But what makes us really love something? There’s a difference between finding value in an object or activity and really loving it. Ahuvia says one of three things needs to happen for us to feel a connection with a thing: the thing itself is anthropomorphic, or it connects us to another person, or it’s a part of our own identity. This fascinating discussion will have you wondering just why you love the things you love! See for privacy and opt-out information.
141. The History of Gerrymandering with Nick Seabrook
In this episode, Sharon chats with Professor Nick Seabrook, who has written a new book, One Person, One Voice, that details the long history of gerrymandering in the United States. While gerrymandering predates our country, Professor Seabrook argues that it’s a bigger problem today than it has been in the past because we have more sophisticated access to data and technology. This access has flipped the script, and politicians are choosing their voters instead of voters choosing their politicians. Join the conversation as Sharon and Professor Seabrook talk about how we got here--the myths, the history, and what we can do to slow this threat to democracy. See for privacy and opt-out information.
140. A Dream Twenty-Three Years in the Making with Tabitha Brown
In this episode, Sharon sits down with America’s favorite mom, Tabitha Brown. Tabitha talks about how grateful she is that fame and opportunity came at a time in her life when she was ready for it: when she knew what she wanted, and was able to have the patience to do the things that make her feel good, and in turn, make all of us feel good. Together, Sharon and Tabitha talk about Tabitha’s many projects, from her daily TikTok videos, her new restaurant, Kale My Name, her children’s show on YouTube, Tab Time, and even some of her recent collaborations. In everything she does, Tabitha strives to be accessible, make a difference, and give her audience leave to make something their own. See for privacy and opt-out information.
139. The Importance of Preserving Democracy with Senator Mitt Romney
In today’s episode, Sharon talks with one of listeners’ most-requested guests, Senator Mitt Romney. A current Senator of Utah, Romney has a long history of public service, and chats candidly with Sharon about his unique personal history with business and politics, as well as advice his father gave him when he was young. Senator Romney also shares some insight into how Senate members are placed on committees, his interest and work in foreign diplomacy, and what he feels U.S. citizens can do to protect and uphold the democracy of our country. See for privacy and opt-out information.
138. Respect is Contagious: Restorative Justice with Judge Victoria Pratt
In this episode, Sharon has a conversation with Judge Victoria Pratt, who’s new book, The Power of Dignity, looks at the ways in which respect in the justice system needs to go both ways. She shares her belief that we have a moral and professional obligation to look our for our neighbors; the whole community benefits when everyone is living their lives to their best and fullest potential. In the courtroom, when people are treated with dignity and respect, it increases their trust in the justice system and bolsters the authority of the people who uphold it. To increase public trust in our justice system, we must allow people to have a voice in the process, give them time to speak, ensure that the court process is neutral, and, above all, look people in the eye. Respect is contagious: everyone in court is impacted by how they are treated by those in positions of authority. See for privacy and opt-out information.
137. How to Ensure the Stories of our Lives Don’t Stink with Donald Miller
In this episode, Sharon talks with Donald Miller, entrepreneur, podcast host, and bestselling author, about the stories in our lives and how we live them. Our stories stink. When we fill our free time with passive consumption, we’re left with a narrative void that doesn’t enrich our lives. Donald’s new book, Hero On A Mission: A Path to a Meaningful Life, sets up readers to create meaning and nuance in the story of their lives. Sharon and Donald also talk about the two-party system in the U.S. and what it would take to have an alternative system, or add a third party. Spoiler alert: it’s an uphill battle, but perhaps not impossible! See for privacy and opt-out information.

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Amanda RiRa 2022/06/27
Don’t do it ?
You shouldn’t listen. Please don’t. Please let me be the smartest person in the room. Let me hoard all this knowledge all for myself.
Finney May 2022/06/22
My world is wider, deeper & richer now for Sharon’s work.
The Original Audge 2022/06/18
I don’t know how she does it
Sharon promised a podcast for everyone and that’s what she gave. Probably one of the biggest podcast seasons a podcast has ever done, it has *everythi...
KathyWestbrook28117 2022/06/17
Sharon is the best!
Sharon is so clear and thoughtful in her podcasts. I learn so much following her social media stories/posts and listening to her podcast. Keep up the ...
Laydum 2022/06/16
Brain tingles!
Sharon is exactly what America needed at the time it needed her. She is a breath of fresh air, spending every episode making us better (and smarter) p...
Carley Anna 2022/06/15
Episode 27: The White City
Thank you Sharon and Sharon Says So for this absolutely mind blowing episode! I don’t think I’ve ever learned so much in 30 minutes and I can’t wait t...
LyndsieCrosby 2022/06/15
10/10! ??⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
allimc2 2022/06/13
Sharon Says So
I have learned so much about the way government works from this podcast. Sharon breaks it down as only a caring teacher can. Thank you for caring abou...
adiplaci 2022/06/10
Love this podcast
This podcast presents such a wonderful blend of fun lesser-know histories and amazing interviews. I look forward to each episode. I am now a committed...
e buckley 2022/06/08
Great moderate voice with amazing guests
I had followed Sharon on Instagram- but just found the podcast. Such a great moderate voice, interested in facts and able to interview some amazing gu...


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